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The fear the tag thing is because if they don't get a deal done this season it would more than likely be used to trade him, not keep him. That would limit his suitors to those willing to trade a pick or picks for the right to sign him to a whopping contract. And unlike with say Drew, that would likely eliminate the AFCE from contention and possibly a few other teams the NEP would probably be reluctant to trade a #1 WR to. Might even eliminate Snyder who is lagging behind in draft picks because he's been trading present and future picks away for a while now and never gets comps. So for all intents and purposes everything this agent is doing at the moment is about maximizing Deion's next contract.

The potential fly in the ointment this clown is completely ignoring is the risk that Deion is somehow viewed as damaged goods after this debaucle. Some part of his 5'9" anatomy gets injured and he loses all or even part of the season, he gets surpassed by someone on this roster, the numbers put up in 2006 by several other WR further highlight the gap between his production and that of an elite #1 or he becomes one of those rare stubborn to a fault players who holds out and entire camp or even into the season giving some teams real pause about even looking at him.

I think the worst thing that could have happened to this kid was being named MVP in XXXIX. It probably should have gone to the guy throwing the rock anyway. If not Rodney or Vrabel. It was the mere fact that he had statistically passed Rice in SB receptions that did it, but the only reason he was in back to back Superbowls to do that to begin with was the guy throwing him the ball. The guy whose own skill set is what enables a Branch to maximize his own savvy and minimize his lack of size and speed. The guy who knows not to let that award go to his head. I think the media in attendance was just looking for a way not to have to give it to Brady for a third time though. And possibly even to create another offensive star on a team with all too few who might develop that I-me-where's mine mindset.

Obviously the team tried to save Deion from even the 4th not to mention coerced 5th year of this deal when they tried to extend him 2 years early after the 2004 season. First we hear of that and oddly it's the idiot agent who lets that slip. While it was probably for less it was likely in the same ballpark as the money they offered 31 year old Mason that same spring (5 years/$20M/$7M sb and $11M in the first two seasons). And either way it really takes the he's been grossly underpaid and forced to labor under his rookie deal card off the table. Seems that continuing to labor under it was his and his agents doing too. Apparently the problems and resentments they have had with his coerced rookie deal were not enough to take an extension that would have still had him headed to open market FA before he hit 30.

This is all about Deion getting to FA well before 30, which is why this team is being actually being coerced to give him a FA deal and not an extension that accounts for his not being one yet.
 
patsfan13 said:
I think the downside for Deion in this scenario is the possibility of a serious injury. The FTD locks in the bonus and protects the player from injury. Deion wants to avoid this risk, but wants better than market value (IMO) a year early.

I do not get JC's position. If the Pats are going to take on Branch's injury risk, they should then get a discount for doing so.
 
It is time for one of Deion's trusted friends
to take him aside
and calmly show him what's happening.
 
Miguel said:
Yes.

They also get a cut when an ERFA gets a tender.

In both instances, the agent is getting paid for doing nothing

And that's exactly how the NFL Players Agents union wants it ... and is gonna keep it!
... right, Mr. Tom Condon, superagent and double-dealer ?
 
Miguel said:
I do not get JC's position. If the Pats are going to take on Branch's injury risk, they should then get a discount for doing so.

I agree, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Given Deion's lack of durability (compared to some of the A list WR's), getting guarenteed money a year early has a lot of merit.

This will very possibly be the biggest contract he signs in his career, so from his POV it need to be good. If the reported offer is accurate, dependig on the details of the bonus it sounds pretty fair to me.
 
Patriots | Branch placed on the reserve/did not report list
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:22:05 -0700

Jerome Solomon, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots have placed WR Deion Branch on the reserve/did not report list. Branch's agent, Jason Chayut, would not say if his client is in the area, but Branch has been working out and would be prepared to take the practice field as soon as a contract is worked out. Chayut indicated that Branch is prepared to sit for some time if the team doesn't make him a satisfactory offer. ''I don't know when that's going to happen,'' Chayut said. ''He recognizes, from his perspective, they're not doing right by him and he's disappointed with the team.'' ''He just wants to be treated fairly,'' Chayut said.

 
Out of site, out of mind.

I'm a big Chad Jackson fan right now.
 
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Branch is killing his reputation

The Patriots have already made Branch an offer for this season, and Branch agreed to it --- four years ago! Shut up and play. The Pats have already offered to renegotiate a year early, offering IMO more than he's worth. To still act so p!ssy at the prospect of about $6m a year (nearly the franchise number) demonstrates greed and cluelessness.

I am ready to take back my thoughts posted on this forum over the last year or so that "Givens doesn't get it, but Branch does." Branch is turning into TO, and I never thought I'd say that.
 
Re: Branch is killing his reputation

lol. Branch is nowhere near TO.
 
Balls in his court..and he's dropping this one...incomplete pass...The more JC yaps the stupider he sounds...
 
Anyone wish that the 2004 Super Bowl MVP went to Brady again ?

R
 
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Pats726 said:
Balls in his court..and he's dropping this one...incomplete pass...The more JC yaps the stupider he sounds...

It's more a question of whether he thinks the front office is stupid - as well as the fans, as the vast majority of fans wouldn't want to see the team give up the biggest leverage they have.

As far as the MVP going to someone else, I'm fine with Branch getting it - pretty much ever SB victory I felt there wasn't solely one person who deserved it anyway, and that includes Brady. So its fine with me that someone else on the team was given the award.
 
flutie2phelan said:
It is time for one of Deion's trusted friends
to take him aside
and calmly show him what's happening.

Are you insinuating Brady? If so, I do not agree - no way TB can appear to be anything other than supportive of his fellow players. Any thing less would not be wise in terms of TB being all about his team and players. Players must do what they think is right and best for them and their own situation.

While I think Deion is being misled by his agent, it sure is not for TB to point that out - even he did agree with me.

All of this assuming you meant TB in the firstplace.
 
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sarge said:
Miguel, lets be fair. I think Curran actually meant that. For most people, when they bring up a players salary, we are talking about the whole thing. Or atleast I do.I know for guys like you who understand the cap as well as you do, there is a big difference. I just think him saying salary was an easy way of saying what the top five guys get paid.
While it may be the easy way, it is not the correct way. IMO. It is misleading.

I have noticed in previous threads you seem to have a bone to pick with Curran. What is the deal with that? Seems like you always want to take a shot at him when you can.
FYI - Curran wrote a story about me in 2002. For that, I am forever grateful. I do not have a bone to pick with Curran. I do not think that writing a story about me 4 years ago should make Curran immune from being held to the same standard that I hold the Boston sports media to. If pointing out what I think is a mistake is taking a shot at Curran, then I have taken shots at Curran, Felger, Reiss, Pires, Borges, the guys on Patriots Football Weekly, and Cafardo.

Some examples
http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...thread.php?p=14085&highlight=felger#post14085

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...wthread.php?p=40775&highlight=reiss#post40775

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32844&highlight=borges
 
Miguel said:

You jes one mean bastid, aincha?
 
fgssand said:
Are you insinuating Brady? If so, I do not agree - no way TB can appear to be anything other than supportive of his fellow players. Any thing less would not be wise in terms of TB being all about his team and players. Players must do what they think is right and best for them and their own situation.

While I think Deion is being misled by his agent, it sure is not for TB to point that out - even he did agree with me.

All of this assuming you meant TB in the firstplace.

But i didn't mean Brady, ssandy.
Wrote that even before i saw his diplomatically mature and non-judgmental answers
to leading questions about Twig in his presser.

Who i had in mind - sincerely - is one or two of his homeys.
We need SOMEONE to wake this lad up!
 
Miguel said:
While it may be the easy way, it is not the correct way. IMO. It is misleading.
The inaccuracies and poor information and what obviously turn out to be guesses rather than facts as implied - from the National pundits as well as the local ones - is enough to drive one crazy.

More kudos to you, Miguel, for wading thru all of the material and figuring out what is correct or at least the most likely and probable.

I'll throw in another one. Why can't the Patriots at LEAST give us a complete transaction record. It certainly is supposedly a matter of public record and gives away absolutely nothing. (One example is that I have been unable to find any reference on Patriots.com about Childress being signed from efra status.)
 
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Miguel said:
FYI - Curran wrote a story about me in 2002. For that, I am forever grateful. I do not have a bone to pick with Curran. I do not think that writing a story about me 4 years ago should make Curran immune from being held to the same standard that I hold the Boston sports media to. If pointing out what I think is a mistake is taking a shot at Curran, then I have taken shots at Curran, Felger, Reiss, Pires, Borges, the guys on Patriots Football Weekly, and Cafardo.

Some examples
http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...thread.php?p=14085&highlight=felger#post14085

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...wthread.php?p=40775&highlight=reiss#post40775

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=32844&highlight=borges

That's fine. I wasn't trying to get on you. Just curious.
 
flutie2phelan said:
But i didn't mean Brady, ssandy.
Wrote that even before i saw his diplomatically mature and non-judgmental answers
to leading questions about Twig in his presser.

Who i had in mind - sincerely - is one or two of his homeys.
We need SOMEONE to wake this lad up!

Gotcha and I agree 100% - it seems as if the longer this goes and the more cut throat it gets from the Patriots side, may serve to polarize his thoughts. So, instead of Deion realizing he has a hell of a deal, instead, he digs his heels in even deeper.

I cannot understand the following:

1) Why Deion & his agent cannot see that he is not a free agent and as such, should give a little in return for throwing away the last year of the contract he signed.

2) Being offered say 8MM bonus over two years and an average deal at between 5.5-6MM is way better than one year at 1MM and one franchised year at 7MM - can't they do the math?

3) His agent does not give a rats ass about Deion, is only in it for the money and is not advising him in his best interest. JC seems to be trying to make up for the bad contract he told his client to sign. This is not NE's fault.

4) What a great risk he is taking by playing this year without the deal that has been offered - injuries happen, career ending ones at that.

5) Why he would risk ruining goodwill he has built up amongst his adoring fan base. TY Law tarnished his image forever in return for greed. Is this going to be how Deion wants to be known for going forward? What happened to team and appreciating an organization that drafted you higher and believed more in you than any other franchise?

You are right- somebody needs to tell him these things - for his own sake and the sake of the team.
 
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sarge said:
Do Agents get a cut if the player signs a franchise contract?

I think they do, but I could also see why thy shouldn't as the franchise tag more or less just shows the agent couldn't get a deal done.

If that were the case, that would go a long way in explaining the agents problem with the cap!

I just found this
http://www.nflpa.org/pdfs/Agents/2006RegAmendments.pdf

New rule -

Agents get a maximum of 2 percent when a player is franchised
1.5% when a player is franchised a 2nd time
1% when a player is franchised a 3rd time
 
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