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They have done it without JJ Watt also! If he comes back close to his best next year they probably will have the best defense!

It was mainly down to Gronk missing so much time, the murderer leaving us in the crap....leaving Brady with just Edelman, Dobson and Kenbrell Thomkins to throw to. 2013 was almost as bad as 2006 in terms of offensive talent!

It led to their biggest rivals having the success listed in the opening post!!! It most certainly is a dark day in jest history!!

I was in New Jersey for the game at metlife a few weeks ago and had two jets tickets on my dash....................some low life scumbag jets fan smashed the window and left two more. The bastard!

There really is a lot of angry, exceptionally opinionated posters on this message board!

Agent Darby.....mission accomplished....return to base!

Pete Carroll obviously learned these tricks when head coach of the New England Patriots.....proves beyond all doubt a history of systematic cheating by the patriots. New England shall lose their next 5 first round picks and be fined $5m. Yours truly - Integrity Rodger

It ties Favre against the Lions at 26. Favre 26-9 against lions Brady 26-3 against the bills. Somehow I don't see Brady losing the next 6 against the bills.

Thanks fellas - got a few :)

Hey wonderful tech type pats fans......can anyone PM me a stream for tonight. Im in the UK, just moved house and don't have my cable tv up and running yet. Ive tried first row sports but i have a MacBook and it doesn't seem to work on this piece of crap. Something about flash player or...

1). Regular season victory ever. It's a toss up between the Thanksgiving buttfumble game and the Denver game at Gillette where the Pats were down 24-0 at the half and came back to win on Welkers muffed punt in overtime. Simply two ridiculously glorious evenings!! 2). Playoff win of all time...

Adam Vinatieri???? Dude isn't even the best kicker in team history let alone top 10 patriots all time!! Gost is a better kicker and when he adds another ring people's perception will change about his importance. Vinatieri was fortunate that he had the circumstances to be able to kick Super...

Sorry Resdubwhite, why is it that you hate Ronaldo and Pepe?

Seriously would you 2 pack it in. Ruining a decent thread with back and forth bickering. You both keep saying agree to disagree - do it then and leave it alone

Russia are painful to watch. Absolute tedium

I'll be supporting Germany as always...... But in truth it's A.B.E (Anyone But England). Couple of dark horses might be Croatia and Portugal. Both would need a very kind draw though.

It was the Italian Seria A not the Spanish league. But yeah 3 different league titles at 19! Could have been a sprinter too - absolutely rapid!!

Should read the 32! Kraft is as much an 4sshole as the other 31

I guess we were running low on C Jones' with Chandler being traded and Chris being waived to the Dolphins. All is right again - we have a C Jones on the roster!!

Like a few others I sort of became a follower years before becoming a fanatic! Growing up in Scotland I wasn't a fan of any of the American big 4 sports at all - there was hardly any coverage but what was available was just ignored in our house as we were all soccer mad. (As well as golf...