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Patriots Pregame Thread SUPER BOWL PREGAME THREAD - Patriots vs Seahawks 2026 SB - The Rematch

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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.....and please bring in a more useful player to block than Jake Westover. I've watched him closely since the middle of this season, and I've seen him make ONE effective blockthe past 9 games (I believe it was the second Jets or Dolphin game). All he does is run up to a lineman and slow dance romantically.

He is the most futile Patriot player since Jordan Richards. Nobody says a word about him, though.

Last week he played 26 offensive snaps - - it was brutal watching him. I wanted to throw something at the tv.

Play more Munford on the extended line or sign up 60 yr old Sam Gash for a game. Anything!

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Pats didn’t draft Westover in the 2nd round, unlike Jordan Richards.

Matter of fact they didn’t draft him at all.
 
This game isn't about trying to make Sam Darnold bad or turn him back into the QB he was when he was forced to wear the petulance green of the Jets and bear that weight. He isn't that guy and turns out to have NEVER been that guy. Rather he is a talented QB who was worthy of being drafted in the top 3 and an example of what happens to good players who get drafted by bad organizations.

Seattle is not going to win or lose this game based solely on the play of Sam Darnold. In order for us to control the excellent Seattle offense we are going to have to do to some degree, what we have been doing to all our playoff rivals. That is confuse what Sam sees at the LOS at least some of the time, control the LOS so the Seahawks can't control the LOS with a good run game (under 75 ypg), and provide enough pressure with 4 and 5 man rushes to move Darnold off his spot. We want to force him into his 2nd and 3rd options and make his job hard and his pass drops longer.

As for our offense? I'm not sure. It has been a month since we have seen a game where it looked both efficient and effective for any length of time. A time where WE were dictating the flow of the game. I just have to believe all we saw in the first 17 games of the season wasn't a mirage and we will have an answer if we get into a shooting match.

I really would be happy to hear a report this week or next that T. Williams was seen in the building or out in Santa Clara. I have a feeling that he has been contributing more to the defensive planning than people realize, even if he hasn't been there to coach it directly. That's my hope at least.
I wondered about Williams’ presence too. Either that if it just suddenly started clicking for Zak Kuhr.
 
I'm confident in the Pats D, it's the offense that worries me. Maye has been good, but he is so darn erratic. I just don't know what to expect out of him in the biggest game of his life..TBH
 
I'm confident in the Pats D, it's the offense that worries me. Maye has been good, but he is so darn erratic. I just don't know what to expect out of him in the biggest game of his life..TBH
Agree. He hasn't been reg season Maye. In my view it's a number of reasons and not just one.

I wish they were going up against a cupcake defense but it'll be another top 5 unit so not the case.

Because of the defense the game is very winnable but the O needs to find a way to put some TDs on the board.
 
People are prisoners of the moment. The Seahawks and Rams game was a well played great game. Pats Broncos was not, mainly due to the conditions. It was one of Drakes worse games of the year in my opinion, but he still made enough plays to win the game. That is a very tough place to play for a team that seldom plays there and Drake is in his second year. Knee jerk reaction is the Seahawks looked much better than the Pats therefore they will beat them in the Superbowl. Not sure how great the Seahawks would have looked in those conditions. I like our chances to win the Superbowl, anybody who thinks this is some kind of mismatch, I do not see it at all. The idiots on ESPN do not help at all with this narrative but who cares, that is why the games are played on the field.
Good post. I agree. Seahawks offense looked at their best and pats offense looked at their worst.
Statistic suggest the possibility that on a neutral field under ideal playing conditions the patriots offensive output will improve.
SEA has scored 41 and 31 in their last 2 games.
Both are above their season average of 28.
I think Pats will beed 28 at least to win thus game
Their average this year is 28.8 includes some bad weather games
I see this as a close matchup hinging on turnovers
 
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Good post. I agree. Seahawks offense looked at their best and pats offense looked at their worst.
Statistic suggest the possibility that on a neutral field under ideal playing conditions the patriots offensive output will improve.
SEA has scored 41 and 31 in their last 2 games.
Both are above their season average of 28.
I think Pats will beed 28 at least to win thus game
Their average this year is 28.8 includes some bad weather games
I see this as a close matchup himging on turnovers
It will be really tough to score 28 without turnovers or special teams giving short fields

I don't see Seattle's offense as being dominant enough to merit needing 28 though. Forget the last game, they've been a good not great offense all year. Against great defenses (which I would argue the Patriots have evolved into being), they haven't exactly lit it up.

20 against Jax, 18 against the Colts, 27 against the Texans but aided by turnovers (underlying stats for that game are rough - 4.7 yards/play, 4 turnovers committed), 19 in the first Rams game. Seattle can get to ~20 pure offensive points without Patriots turning the ball over but I see that as the high end of their expected points.
 
Hockenson started the season on IR and then when he was activated, kinda saw a similar year he always has had. He had one year in MN where he went up for 90 receptions for almost 1000 yards. Otherwise, he is a perpetual ~60 catches for 450-500 yards. Henry has had a far more consistent career and is always north of 10 ypc, while Hockenson finds himself south of that mark year-in-and-out.

He may be getting cut this year; could be a cheaper pickup to pair with Henry if he has juice? Henry & Hockenson TE Firm? Just down the street from Henderson & Stevenson Turf Consultants?
I prefer Isaiah Likely.
 
Very similar to those 2012-2014 Seacocks teams which ran more than they threw.

They did it to protect the QB from making critical mistakes at the end of games bahahahahahaha
Darnold is the weakest link.

That is why its crucial to take JSN away as much as possible. JSN catches everything and makes Darnold better than he is. I was trying to remember the last bust 1st round QB to be traded or let go and win a Championship. Trent Dilfer 26 years ago.
 
Pass rush and coverage work together. Pass rush to speed Darnold up, coverage to slow him down and let the pass rush get home, etc.

Even the best pass rush doesn't do much if the receivers are getting open in 2.5 seconds every play.
I read that Seatles Center and RG are near the top of the list for allowing quick pressures. Their OTs are both pretty good, so I think that the inside pass rush is key to pressure Darnold with the DTs and twist, stunts and inside blitzes.

I am very nervous about Jared Wilson, the Seatle DTs are very good and Wilson has been a liability in the pass and tun game. I almost would rather see Brown play LG. I know this will probably be met with displeasure but Wilson has not been good this season.
 
Darnold is the weakest link.

That is why its crucial to take JSN away as much as possible. JSN catches everything and makes Darnold better than he is. I was trying to remember the last bust 1st round QB to be traded or let go and win a Championship. Trent Dilfer 26 years ago.
Yep.

Dilfer might be the worst winning QB in the Super Bowl era. Need to think about that one...
 
I read that Seatles Center and RG are near the top of the list for allowing quick pressures. Their OTs are both pretty good, so I think that the inside pass rush is key to pressure Darnold with the DTs and twist, stunts and inside blitzes.

I am very nervous about Jared Wilson, the Seatle DTs are very good and Wilson has been a liability in the pass and tun game. I almost would rather see Brown play LG. I know this will probably be met with displeasure but Wilson has not been good this season.
Agreed - hope he proves us wrong bc the coaching staff is def sticking with him
 
Maybe I’m being a homer here but I’m feeling confident in this team and think we’ll win the SuperBowl. I won’t bet on it but I believe in this team
 
Apologies if this was posted already, I missed it if it was.


I hate that union suit look (just needs a flap in the seat) but I can't argue with success. They win wearing it and if it helps them get right mentally then go for it.
 
Maybe I’m being a homer here but I’m feeling confident in this team and think we’ll win the SuperBowl. I won’t bet on it but I believe in this team
You aren't incorrect. When was the last time a team with a generational WR won without a generational QB? Been quite a while I have a lot of faith that this team, in good weather with 2 weeks rest is going to open a ton of eyes. McD will be in his bag, as will T Will/Kuhr.
 
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