Riddick said Daniels could go #1 overall

In any event he will not be there st 3

For Pats its Maye, Mccarthy or trade down

Or trade up

Sam Bam Cunningham said:

In any event he will not be there st 3

For Pats its Maye, Mccarthy or trade down

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I'm great with Maye or McCarthy at #3 (just sit them for their rookie season). NO TRADE DOWNS!!!

It’s simple math, only two guys can go ahead of pick 3. If Daniels goes first then 2 out of 3 of Williams, Maye and McCarthy will be available at #3. If someone else goes at #1 then you just subtract from that group and add in who you had at #1 before.

Just because Riddick says Daniels might go number 1 doesn’t mean the pool has shrunk somehow. Just changed.

Hmmm, Daniels at 1 followed by a possible McCarthy at 2 to WSH leaves Caleb Williams or Maye. If that played out, the Pats would have to go Williams, right?

patman12 said:

Hmmm, Daniels at 1 followed by a possible McCarthy at 2 to WSH leaves Caleb Williams or Maye. If that played out, the Pats would have to go Williams, right?

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Washington would go with the local boy Williams imo.

Bears did not even interview Daniels at his Pro Day
Strong evidence that they are going with Williams

Williams is going #1.

People are running out of stuff to say, sure he could go #1 but he probably won’t. Draft is a ways away, free agency is frozen, gotta fill time with something

JohnJH said:

I'm great with Maye or McCarthy at #3 (just sit them for their rookie season). NO TRADE DOWNS!!!

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If the Pats can trade down and still get who they want, then they'd be foolish not to.

I don't want Maye. He's got bust written all over him. Just like Williams.

The Bears are going with Williams.

Anything to the contrary is just ridiculous rumor and mediots trying to get attention.

Yeah, it’s Williams at 1 for sure and then it comes down to who the Commanders like. It seems unlikely they are going to trade down. I don’t really buy the McCarthy rumors. It’s probably Daniels or Maye. NE will get to take either Maye/Daniels, or McCarthy, or trade out.

Drunken Cicerone said:

People are running out of stuff to say, sure he could go #1 but he probably won’t. Draft is a ways away, free agency is frozen, gotta fill time with something

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The biggest takeaway is that there isn’t any concern about the velocity on his mid range throws. He’s got a quick release and plenty of arm for every throw.

Why is McCarthy being floated as an option? I understand that Michigan won, but he seems like a QB that'd only succeed in the NFL with a stacked offense. Am I wrong in that?

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Why is McCarthy being floated as an option? I understand that Michigan won, but he seems like a QB that'd only succeed in the NFL with a stacked offense. Am I wrong in that?

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McCarthy is growing on me. I still have him below Daniels and Maye but he definitely has playmaker potential. He throws on the run as well as anyone in this class and is athletic. I definitely don’t see him as just a game manager.

EMpats said:

McCarthy is growing on me. I still have him below Daniels and Maye but he definitely has playmaker potential. He throws on the run as well as anyone in this class and is athletic. I definitely don’t see him as just a game manager.

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Interesting - I might go check some game highlights. Any matchup you'd recommend in particular?

Daniels looks dann good at his pro day. Not worried anymore about him being too skinny
Quick release and good arm.
Hard to not be impressed.
I can not believe Commanders would take Mccartthy over Daniels

DaBruinz said:

If the Pats can trade down and still get who they want, then they'd be foolish not to.

I don't want Maye. He's got bust written all over him. Just like Williams.

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Are you basing that off of what you watched? Any one of these QB’s could bust as history has proven over and over again. Excuses are for turds but 2 offensive coordinators and 3 oline coaches in 3 years.

Do we agree the arm strength, size and mobility is there? Seems like he can make any throw including on the run. He can slide, move left to right, get the first down if needed. Durable. From all accounts he seems like a leader and good person according to teammates and coaches.

I’m totally willing to let this guy sit for 8 games or so and learn behind Brissett and a qb coach. Once he gets the read and progression stuff down he just might be the best of the bunch.

Chicago traded Justin Fields, which means they are drafting a QB.
Washington traded Sam Howell, which means they are drafting a QB.
Even if either team trades down, they're still drafting a QB.

If the Pats trade down, then they need to be prepared to draft a non-QB with their first pick.
There is no guarantee that McCarthy or whoever they may be targeting will be available at a lower draft slot.
There is also no guarantee that Nix, Penix, etc. will be available at #34.

The Patriots should rank the entire draft class:
#1 on their wish list, #2 on their wish list, #3 on their wish list - regardless of position.
Ask themselves 'are we okay with (fill in the blank) at #3'?
Ask themselves 'if we do draft (fill in the blank) at #3, are we okay with (fill in the blank), whatever is left at #34'?