TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins released

Didn’t we give beck a rather large chunk of change to beck to sign with us. Watson, Lacosse, izzo and/or beck.

We got this. Time to use the open roster spot to sign an offensive tackle.

Can't we reasonably conclude this has to do with his substance abuse problem? If this is in fact the case, why do we root for Josh Gordon's recovery and mock this guy? I realize I'm speculating, but connecting the dots here doesn't seem that unreasonable. When you consider his past history, that he can't even make it to training camp, went on a free agency tour like he had leprosy, Occam's Razor works.

As with Gordon, I wish him the best and hope that he finds treatment for his disease. It isn't a choice and doesn't have an ideal cure.

Here's an article from last year about his recovery efforts:

NY Jets Tight End Austin Seferian-Jenkins Talks Recovery, Credits Personal and Professional Success to Treatment

As he notes, the decision to enter detox came when he knew he needed to get help. Initially reluctant to speak and share his stories in the program, Jenkins soon realized he was in a place where he wouldn’t be judged, and which had the resources he needed to not only actively participate and open up, but also get back on track and manage his life.

After six days of detox, Jenkins began attending rehab on an outpatient treatment basis – four days a week, for three and a half hours each day. The tools he gained in treatment helped him endure a strict nutrition and training program to prepare him for his return to the field, shed close to 30 pounds, and regain his speed and agility.

Now, Jenkins has more than 400 days of sobriety – something he credits to detox, rehab, and resources he never knew could help turn around his life so drastically, and which he only regrets not doing sooner. Having been the 13th ranked tight end in 2017-2018 season despite missing three games (two due to the NFL’s substance-abuse policy), he now looks forward to what he can offer in free agency. Last season, he says, was in many ways his rookie year – one where he focused on himself, his sobriety, and football fully for the first time, and during which he included self-reflection as part of his daily routine.

AndyJohnson said:

I don’t recall cannon having concussions but he certainly has a track record here even if he has missed some time with injuries over the years.

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My bad the concussion was last year and he only missed 1-2 games. The ankle and toe injuries cost him more games in the last 3 seasons or so.

Ochmed Jones said:

...We got this. Time to use the open roster spot to sign an offensive tackle.

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Such as...?

Time to use the open roster spot to sign either Jermaine Gresham, Lance Kendricks or Ryan (from New Hampshire!) Griffin.

Triumph said:

We still have Josh Gordon.

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Come on, Triumph. Don't start with this sht again.

Mike the Brit said:

As Honorary Secretary of the A.J. Derby Fan Club, I can remind people that he is at present a free agent. As are Michael Hoomanawanui, Tim Wright and (*drum roll*) Zach Sudfeld...

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...and...Matt Lengel.

Beck is guaranteed $115K, the most for any UDFA, but not much compared to other free agents (even those at vet minimum).

I suspect that Belichick will give Beck every opportunity to make the 53 as a developmental player. Beck could be our 2019 UDFA player who makes the 53.

We have often carried 3 TE's, so it wouldn't at all unreasonable to start the season with LeCosse, Izzo and Beck, with Watson on SUS for 4 games.

Ochmed Jones said:

Didn’t we give beck a rather large chunk of change to beck to sign with us. Watson, Lacosse, izzo and/or beck.

We got this. Time to use the open roster spot to sign an offensive tackle.

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Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Can't we reasonably conclude this has to do with his substance abuse problem? If this is in fact the case, why do we root for Josh Gordon's recovery and mock this guy? I realize I'm speculating, but connecting the dots here doesn't seem that unreasonable. When you consider his past history, that he can't even make it to training camp, went on a free agency tour like he had leprosy, Occam's Razor works.

As with Gordon, I wish him the best and hope that he finds treatment for his disease. It isn't a choice and doesn't have an ideal cure.

Here's an article from last year about his recovery efforts:

NY Jets Tight End Austin Seferian-Jenkins Talks Recovery, Credits Personal and Professional Success to Treatment

As he notes, the decision to enter detox came when he knew he needed to get help. Initially reluctant to speak and share his stories in the program, Jenkins soon realized he was in a place where he wouldn’t be judged, and which had the resources he needed to not only actively participate and open up, but also get back on track and manage his life.

After six days of detox, Jenkins began attending rehab on an outpatient treatment basis – four days a week, for three and a half hours each day. The tools he gained in treatment helped him endure a strict nutrition and training program to prepare him for his return to the field, shed close to 30 pounds, and regain his speed and agility.

Now, Jenkins has more than 400 days of sobriety – something he credits to detox, rehab, and resources he never knew could help turn around his life so drastically, and which he only regrets not doing sooner. Having been the 13th ranked tight end in 2017-2018 season despite missing three games (two due to the NFL’s substance-abuse policy), he now looks forward to what he can offer in free agency. Last season, he says, was in many ways his rookie year – one where he focused on himself, his sobriety, and football fully for the first time, and during which he included self-reflection as part of his daily routine.

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That, without question, is heavy duty alcoholism. I don't know if it's a chicken or egg thing, but a lot of ex-Jete (and at least one current Jete player we know of who coincidentally also plays tight end) battle the bottle.

Patstastic said:

Is Belichick prepared to treat September like it's an extension of preseason (as always Again)? Right now the TE depth chart is ugly. That said, I won't question BB too much. Especially after the coaching masterpiece he pulled off last year.

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Fixed it for you.

It would be great to see the TEs we have make the roster.

AndyJohnson said:

The “trade” was a farce. There are no credible sources saying it was done. It was a ploy to get gronk to make a decision.

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Schefter reported it.

Deus Irae said:

On the one hand, much mockery is deserved about this, particularly mockery aimed at certain Patsfans.com posters. On the other hand, without knowing what those personal issues are, mockery is in bad taste. So, given this conundrum, I think the only appropriate response is as follows

(conditional)

(conditional) I hope he gets things straightened out and is able to return to football, if that's what he wants.

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I've never seen you so conflicted. You're mellowing in your old age.

My reaction was that Bill Belichick and the personnel group are finding that taking risks on good players who come with behavioral health challenges is tougher than taking risks on guys coming off significant injuries. A job in the NFL is a high pressure job under the best of circumstances. There are lessons to be learned from the Aaron Hernandez and Josh Gordon experiences, and unless the team and their families can truly provide the stability and full set of supports needed, it's nearly impossible for these young men to stay on track.

aluminum seats said:

Schefter reported it.

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He reported on the story. It was a sham.

AndyJohnson said:

He reported on the story.

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Incorrect.

ASJ doesn’t seem to be getting the same level of coddling and excuse making Josh Gordon did on this board.

203Pat said:

ASJ doesn’t seem to be getting the same level of coddling and excuse making Josh Gordon did on this board.

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well........that's because at least when gordon steps on the field he's halfway decent

aluminum seats said:

Incorrect.

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So you are saying you were wrong? ??

IllegalContact said:

well........that's because at least when gordon steps on the field he's halfway decent

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At least someone on here will admit it.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Can't we reasonably conclude this has to do with his substance abuse problem? If this is in fact the case, why do we root for Josh Gordon's recovery and mock this guy?

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Why do sports fans mock and disparage athletes at all? Some combination of unearned entitlement, self-loathing, and free floating anger pointed at easy targets. And because there's no real consequence or accountability.

203Pat said:

At least someone on here will admit it.

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it's called 'value'