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OT: Did anyone else think Jamie Dukes and Mike Mayock were going come to blows

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Watching today, it really seemed to be that Jamie Dukes and Mike Mayock really don't like each other. There were several times they went at it and at least Mayock looked like he was not happy at all. They even went as far as rehashing the argument of the Eagles taking Kolb last year when they had McNabb on the roster. It was a very interesting dynamic today.
 
Yes they were really going at it. I liked when Dukes was ragging on the Pats D and Mayock owned him by reminding him that the Pats D was top 10. Dukes' backpeddling was classic.
 
Oh yeah, loved their throwdown about college coaching, Gholston, and loafing in the NFL. It was some pretty entertaining stuff.

Dukes is a lot of bluster and blow but Mayock was chiming in with the smart quips.
 
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Oh yeah, loved their throwdown about college coaching, Gholston, and loafing in the NFL. It was some pretty entertaining stuff.

Dukes is a lot of bluster and blow but Mayock was chiming in with the smart quips.

That was the point where I thought Mayock was going to lose it. He clearly wasn't happy about how Dukes was saying that Ohio State coached Gholston wrong.
 
This has been a hallmark of the NFLN from day 1. The analysts are not afraid to have lively disagreements on air. It also seems like there is genuine camaraderie amongst the guys, unlike the forced, artificial feel of Berman's gang.
 
That was the point where I thought Mayock was going to lose it. He clearly wasn't happy about how Dukes was saying that Ohio State coached Gholston wrong.

I was following the live feed online, but when he stood up to grab something or other from the table I thought he was gonna belt Dukes. I hope Gholston remains a loafer, btw. :rocker:
 
Dukes is a pretty bright guy, but in glibly going off on tangents to play to his audience he really downgrades his value as anything more than a snappy entertainer. He needed a spanking and not that many folks want to mix it up with a former big ugly. It is good when a guy like him has to start to think before he yaps off the cuff. That is what having a guy like Mayock on set with him forced. Even Marshall was rather subdued. I see a trend on NFLN of late - substance over flash. They've even made Casserly sound intelligent because unlike the network they are not asking him what he hears and what it might mean, but what he knows after being a GM for years. Mike Lombardi is also a tremendously solid analyst.

I know they have to have a certain amount of flash and entertainment value to hold the attention of the ADHD demographic and attract casual fans. But they are doing a far better job than ESPN of tempering it with real valuable insight from thoughtful analysts. When you can make Deion stop and listen, you be on to something....

Instead of shouting each other down, this weekend NFLN brought together a number of pretty smart guys who ultimately pushed each other to think before they speak. For me that was compelling must see football TV.
 
There was tension all right, no doubt. Rather than Mayock not liking Dukes, I think it was more like Mayock saying to himself, "How many f'ing times do I have to pretend this unprepared blow knows what he's talking about?!"

Dukes is fine as interviewer but otherwise I avoid him, unlike the fine and humble Charles Davis - a real pro.

The sad part for Mayock and Davis is that Dukes probably gets paid more because he has his own show. Another reason Mayock was so hot under collar with Dukes?
 
Watching today, it really seemed to be that Jamie Dukes and Mike Mayock really don't like each other. There were several times they went at it and at least Mayock looked like he was not happy at all. They even went as far as rehashing the argument of the Eagles taking Kolb last year when they had McNabb on the roster. It was a very interesting dynamic today.

Dukes was an idiot beating the O'Connell pick to death.
 
Watching today, it really seemed to be that Jamie Dukes and Mike Mayock really don't like each other. There were several times they went at it and at least Mayock looked like he was not happy at all. .

I think that was for TV. They seemed to be joking around when the camera wasn't on them, something that I don't think would have happened if there was animosity between them. I was seated in the 1st mezzanine overlooking the NFLN set so we could see things not visible on TV.
There show both the NFLN and ESPN feeds and give you a radio to listen to either one. I think the vast majority of people flipped to NFLN by the middle of the first round because Mayock was so dead on with his picks/analysis.
 
I thought they were going to cut to a commercial at one point. Lively conversation to say the least.
 
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