SKIP BAYLESS GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

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Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

Let's see any of them compete in cricket, badminton, ping pong, curling, rugby, swimming, etc, etc, on an international level. They're all sports, they all take supreme talent to make it to the top, and they all contain ATHLETE'S who work just as hard as NFL players and are--comparatively--just as talented at their SPORT as NFL players.

Absolute garbage. The conditioning and commitment required to play in the NFL is far beyond any other sport. The only ones even close are Boxing and MMA.

 

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Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

If you are more tired after walking 18 holes than after nine innings its one of two things. Either A) you suck at baseball or golf meaning you're either sitting the bench in Baseball or walking all over to find your ball in golf. or B) You're lying and the last time you played 9 innings of baseball was infront of your TV and your 360. And dont give me softball as a comparitive please for the love of god dont be that guy. BTW golf is not a sport the main determing factor in sports is defense.

 

[Fixit]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

I suppose that's more attributable to the beer than the actual activity.

If you are saying it takes more physical exertion to Golf than it does to play Baseball...I am baffled.

How much physical exertion does a non-pitcher (or catchers...all that squatting is rough) go through? They might have to run 90 or 180 feet, and swing five or six times, once every three innings. Same thing for fielders. They might have to chase down a ball or throw it from time to time, when they're not counting grass or eating sunflower seeds in the shade.

And I love baseball.

Golfers swing their clubs 72 times for real in one round...if they're really good. For five hours or so, without shelter. It sucks, it hurts, and if you're not perfect on every swing, you're in trouble. All I know is that I hurt a whole lot more after a round of golf than a softball game.

 

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How much physical exertion does a non-pitcher (or catchers...all that squatting is rough) go through? They might have to run 90 or 180 feet, and swing five or six times, once every three innings. Same thing for fielders. They might have to chase down a ball or throw it from time to time, when they're not counting grass or eating sunflower seeds in the shade.

And I love baseball.

Golfers swing their clubs 72 times for real in one round...if they're really good. For five hours or so, without shelter. It sucks, it hurts, and if you're not perfect on every swing, you're in trouble. All I know is that I hurt a whole lot more after a round of golf than a softball game.

You're the only person I have ever...EVER heard complain about the physicality of Golf.

Bravo.

 

[FrontSeven]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

He's not an athlete, he's a golfer.

That must be why athletes have a hard time golfing.

 

[Fixit]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

If you are more tired after walking 18 holes than after nine innings its one of two things. Either A) you suck at baseball or golf meaning you're either sitting the bench in Baseball or walking all over to find your ball in golf. or B) You're lying and the last time you played 9 innings of baseball was infront of your TV and your 360. And dont give me softball as a comparitive please for the love of god dont be that guy. BTW golf is not a sport the main determing factor in sports is defense.

I didn't say tired. I said sore. Although I'm definitely more tired after golf.

And please, please, tell me the difference between softball and baseball. Saying that baseball is a physically demanding sport is ridiculous. Also, no one's talking about the golf as sport/non-sport.

So, I play both. Do you golf?

 

[Fixit]

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You're the only person I have ever...EVER heard complain about the physicality of Golf.

Bravo.

Quit being an ass. I'm not complaining. I'm stating. And you definitely don't hang out with golfers.

 

[hambone1818]

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Absolute garbage. The conditioning and commitment required to play in the NFL is far beyond any other sport. The only ones even close are Boxing and MMA.

Jesus, you are delusional, huh? Have you ever seen the training sessions for some European soccer teams, or the ridiculous workouts rugby players have to go through?

My buddy had to run 2 miles in 10 minutes to make his soccer team (just to make the team, mind you). This was college...Division III...and he's a goalie.

Talk to Jaromir Jagr, who did 1,000 squats every single day growing up. Or lance Armstrong...I shouldn't even have to mention what he's done to become the athlete he is.

If you're talking about supreme conditioning (and I'm sorry, but linemen are freaks--they can run a sub-5.0 40 at 300+ pounds, but they're paid to be BIG and STRONG, not 'conditioned'), talk to someone who's run an Iron Man or an ultramarathon (100 miles...straight). Tell me they're not in ridiculous shape. You're talking out of your ass.

 

[Fixit]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

That must be why athletes have a hard time golfing.

I guess as soon as a pro athlete retires and plays golf, he's not an athlete anymore.

 

[Stop Being A Jerk]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

I hate Tiger Woods because he's made golf such a big story all the damn time.

It's fecking golf.

 

[hambone1818]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

ath·lete - a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

sport - an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.


Golf is even in the DEFINITION of sport. Give it a rest.

 

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Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

Jesus, you are delusional, huh? Have you ever seen the training sessions for some European soccer teams, or the ridiculous workouts rugby players have to go through?

My buddy had to run 2 miles in 10 minutes to make his soccer team (just to make the team, mind you). This was college...Division III...and he's a goalie.

Talk to Jaromir Jagr, who did 1,000 squats every single day growing up. Or lance Armstrong...I shouldn't even have to mention what he's done to become the athlete he is.

If you're talking about supreme conditioning (and I'm sorry, but linemen are freaks--they can run a sub-5.0 40 at 300+ pounds, but they're paid to be BIG and STRONG, not 'conditioned'), talk to someone who's run an Iron Man or an ultramarathon (100 miles...straight). Tell me they're not in ridiculous shape. You're talking out of your ass.

By conditioning, I mean year round commitment to being in all around physical condition. Not training for a triathlon, an endurance event. Weights, sprints, long distance, cross training, you name it.

I get the feeling you have no concept what these players go through. Your example of your friend running the 2 miles in 10 minutes tells me that. The hell DIII college football players go through is worse.

 

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Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

Quit being an ass. I'm not complaining. I'm stating. And you definitely don't hang out with golfers.

I know a few, and I know not one that touts the physicality of golf.

 

[Fixit]

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By conditioning, I mean year round commitment to being in all around physical condition. Not training for a triathlon, an endurance event. Weights, springs, long distance, cross training, you name it.

I get the feeling you have no concept what these players go through. Your example of your friend running the 2 miles in 10 minutes tells me that. The hell DIII college football players go through is worse.

If you think football players are in better shape than soccer or rugby players, you're on drugs. Soccer, for example, has longer halves, no timeouts, way more running, a ton of contact, and limited substitutions. Rugby has all of that, plus all of the contact of football, but no pads.

 

[Fixit]

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I know a few, and I know not one that touts the physicality of golf.

I'm not touting it, like everyone is about the "physicality" of baseball. What I'm doing is not downplaying it.

 

[TripleOption]

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If you think football players are in better shape than soccer or rugby players, you're on drugs. Soccer, for example, has longer halves, no timeouts, way more running, a ton of contact, and limited substitutions. Rugby has all of that, plus all of the contact of football, but no pads.

So, Soccer has a "ton of contact", as compared to football?

You keep misinterpreting "shape"...BIG. FAST. STRONG. CONDITIONED.

Are Soccer players carrying the muscle mass and enduring the beatings of an NFL player?

How about golfers?

I've coached football for a long time, and I've seen a ton of very good soccer and exceptional hockey players that either quit because it is "too hard" or admit to me that football is the most physical sport they have ever played.

 

[Fixit]

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So, Soccer has a "ton of contact", as compared to football?

You keep misinterpreting "shape"...BIG. FAST. STRONG. CONDITIONED.

Are Soccer players carrying the muscle mass and enduring the beatings of an NFL player?

How about golfers?

Pick an argument and stick with it. I'm not comparing golf to football; I'm stating that golf is more physically demanding than non-players think. I take exception to people making the argument that golf isn't physically demanding, but baseball is. Please.

 

[hambone1818]

Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

By conditioning, I mean year round commitment to being in all around physical condition. Not training for a triathlon, an endurance event. Weights, springs, long distance, cross training, you name it.

I get the feeling you have no concept what these players go through. Your example of your friend running the 2 miles in 10 minutes tells me that. The hell DIII college football players go through is worse.

Sorry there, chief, but I have friends who played D-1, one of my best friends played DIII, actually, I know exactly what they go through. I know about the two-a-days, the 5am wakeups for runs, the 2 hour sessions in the weight room 4 times a week, etc, etc. Nothing that I've ever heard compares to the 2-mile test, period; and that was just to make the team, that's not even counting the 2-mile runs to and from the practice field--before and after they had their practices. And these guys were in ridiculous shape; the average midfielder runs SIX TO SEVEN MILES every game; then add in the skill, precision, agility, etc, required to play.

And I don't even like soccer, but you better believe it's a sport and I have all the respect in the world for those who play at a high level because the training (which your narrow mind couldn't even begin to imagine) is ridiculous. Ditto rugby. And unlike football--where the punter, kicker, and often QB and some linemen aren't in the shape that the rest of the team is--everone on a soccer or rugby pitch is in ridiculous shape. Period.

 

[Fixit]

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I've coached football for a long time, and I've seen a ton of very good soccer and exceptional hockey players that either quit because it is "too hard" or admit to me that football is the most physical sport they have ever played.

Again, who said "more physical?"

Counterpoint: in high school, I knew several good football players who tried soccer but couldn't hack it, because they weren't in good enough shape. Being good at one and not the other doesn't mean you're a chump.

 

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Re: WOODY PAGE GETTIN BRADY's BACK!

I didn't say tired. I said sore. Although I'm definitely more tired after golf.

And please, please, tell me the difference between softball and baseball. Saying that baseball is a physically demanding sport is ridiculous. Also, no one's talking about the golf as sport/non-sport.

So, I play both. Do you golf?

yeah as a matter of fact I do and i suck at it. But i am good at baseball which is why I know Baseball is more physically demanding. Softball is no comparison, and for the record I mean Beer league SB not prosoftball. I pitch for baseball in a semi pro league and let me tell you its alot worse to play nine grueling innings in the heat than it is to walk and hit a golf ball every 200 yards or so. Yes you get sore at golf but baseball is more physical and mental and its the easiest out of the big 4 sports in america. I also play paintball which is 10 times the sport that golf is and is a ton more physical but no one calls those people athletes. Tiger woods is the extreem exception just like John Daily is the other exception the average golfer is not an athlete. Tiger i will admit could be good at any other sport that he knows but he wouldn't be the MJ of his sport if he did. Golf gave him that opportunity cause of his "athletic prowess"