Jackie MacMullen back to doing what she does best

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Finding another Patriot willing to publicly blame BB for his injuries. Now Seymour denounces BB for lining him up at fullback. I believe this article was long in the making. Figures "Man-hands" would publish it the day before a playoff game. She was waiting for the perfect moment to ambush the man she most hates in NE sports.

"I'm sure Richard wouldn't say this, and the Patriots would probably rather not hear it, but those goal line situations they put him in on offense were what started all this.

"When Richard was the lead blocker, he had Corey Dillon literally plowing into the back of his knee on five or six occasions. It might have been effective, but it caused problems with Richard's knee.

"Richard is the biggest, fastest, most agile defender in the league. He doesn't need to be running the football or being the lead blocker for a running back."

Is this "Personal trainer" even qualified to rehab a player from injury? Maybe Seymour's "private rehab", organized by his mouthpiece, damaged the knee again after surgery and the rest of the story is just bull$hi# to cover his tracks.

This offseason, while interviewed by Pete Prisco at DisneyWorld, Seymour said "I have my own priorities, like being at home in SC" instead of going through offseason workouts to rehab his surgically repaired knee with the team. We now learn the surgery appears to have been an arthroscopy to clear out some cartilage, a common procedure from which most players recover in a month. But Seymour pursued his own rehab with his buddy, reinjured it, and showed up to camp out of shape. Did he even inform the Patriots of his problems this spring, when he was "rehabbing" in South Carolina instead of Gillette, like other injured players, or did he surprise them by showing up hobbled?

Seymour's getting paid 10 million dollars a season to perform. If he can't, then he should get off the field and let Jarvis Green play and stop making excuses to the press. He did the same thing last year, with another puff piece from his close friend Ron Borges explaining his elbow injury to the public, against team policy, and how Seymour still was better than Warren.

A finger pointing, excuse making article is not what the team needs from a team leader just prior to the most important playoff in its history. It is another illustration that Seymour is not a team player IMO. His contract extension (which coincides with his subpar play) to this point has been a big blunder. If he contributes meaningfully to a Pats SB this season, then it was well worth it. Otherwise...

 

[Mack Herron]

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The criticism of BB is ridiculous, but so is this:

"Seymour's getting paid 10 million dollars a season to perform. If he can't, then he should get off the field and let Jarvis Green play and stop making excuses to the press."

It is Richard's job to do the best he can. I'm sure he is frustrated not to be healthy, and nopbody wants to play more than he does. It is the team's job to find the best players. If Green could do the job better than Seymour, don't you think BB would be plaing him?

 

[PonyExpress]

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The criticism of BB is ridiculous, but so is this:

"Seymour's getting paid 10 million dollars a season to perform. If he can't, then he should get off the field and let Jarvis Green play and stop making excuses to the press."

It is Richard's job to do the best he can. I'm sure he is frustrated not to be healthy, and nopbody wants to play more than he does. It is the team's job to find the best players. If Green could do the job better than Seymour, don't you think BB would be plaing him?

Seymour is friends with Borges. After getting paid 24 million dollars, he still ripped the organization in the press over the Deion Branch situation. We now know he didn't rehab his knee responsibly. He publicly, and IMO inappropriately, blames BB for his injury issues. He breaks team policy by explaining his injuries to the press. He authorizes a Macmullen hit piece the day before a playoff game. Stop defending him.

 

[dryheat44]

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He publicly, and IMO inappropriately, blames BB for his injury issues. . He authorizes a Macmullen hit piece the day before a playoff game. Stop defending him.

Did he do it somewhere else in the piece, because the section you quoted is all out of McMullen's mouth. And what makes you think McMullen, or any other reporter, gets "authorization" from a player to go with a story?

 

[satz]

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seymour has always been an outspoken person and considering he came in with brady he always said stuff .I think this has nothing do with his feelings overall as he did sign with the patriots.

I want every one who take in the wrong tell him if they had worked in a company for a while and never ever said 1 crap about it. i do but does not mean i leave my job.seymour has been coming on strong and i like it .
same crap with Ty warren being critized.

responsbility of DE in BB 3-4 take blockers and free LB to make play
DE - Ty warren exceptional work - LB on his vrabel is going to probowl and had team high sacks.
DE - Seymour very good he came back - LB on his side thomas and suddenly thomas is starting to make plays i wonder why?Colvin usually in the top 10 defensive player who creates pressure on qb for a few years now. His sacks numbers and overall performace dropped in the first few games.he became a non factor and green was the DE on his side.i rest my case.

 

[PonyExpress]

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Did he do it somewhere else in the piece, because the section you quoted is all out of McMullen's mouth. And what makes you think McMullen, or any other reporter, gets "authorization" from a player to go with a story?

The quotes are from Seymour's personal trainer.

 

[crafty35a]

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Finding another Patriot willing to publicly blame BB for his injuries. Now Seymour denounces BB for lining him up at fullback.

Huh? Where exactly does Seymour blame his injuries on playing fullback? MacMullen specifically says "I'm sure Richard wouldn't say this, and the Patriots would probably rather not hear it, but those goal line situations they put him in on offense were what started all this." How do you get from that that Seymour is blaming the coach?

 

[crafty35a]

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The quotes are from Seymour's personal trainer.

Exactly. What makes you think a personal trainer speaks for Richard Seymour? He's quite capable of speaking for himself.

 

[PonyExpress]

Re: "Man-hands" MacMullen back to doing what she does best

Exactly. What makes you think a personal trainer speaks for Richard Seymour? He's quite capable of speaking for himself.

Take your head out of the sand.

 

[Mack Herron]

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The quotes are from Seymour's personal trainer.

Right. Seymour is not his trainer.

 

[PonyExpress]

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Right. Seymour is not his trainer.

I can see the way this is going. Fans are going to say, "These comments didn't come from Seymour's own mouth, therefore the premise of your post is at best incorrect, at worst a lie." But this friend and personal trainer is obviously Seymour's mouthpiece. Richard used him to say in this article what he couldn't say himself. That is obvious. I understand fans are very attached to this player, who has a tremendous reservoir of good will. But Seymour is not handling himself properly, and it coincides with his contract extension.

 

[Clonamery]

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I can see the way this is going. Fans are going to say, "These comments didn't come from Seymour's own mouth, therefore the premise of your post is at best incorrect, at worst a lie." But this friend and personal trainer is obviously Seymour's mouthpiece. Richard used him to say in this article what he couldn't say himself. That is obvious. I understand fans are very attached to this player, who has a tremendous reservoir of good will. But Seymour is not handling himself properly, and it coincides with his contract extension.

Well, I can't speak to that because I'm not clever enough or clairvoyant.

However, agreeing to do an article to make an excuse for your poor play this year at this juncture of the season is just plain pathetic.

 

[FrontSeven]

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responsbility of DE in BB 3-4 take blockers and free LB to make play
DE - Ty warren exceptional work - LB on his vrabel is going to probowl and had team high sacks.
DE - Seymour very good he came back - LB on his side thomas and suddenly thomas is starting to make plays i wonder why?Colvin usually in the top 10 defensive player who creates pressure on qb for a few years now. His sacks numbers and overall performace dropped in the first few games.he became a non factor and green was the DE on his side.i rest my case.

That's an interesting theory ......

We give you A+ in Interesting Theories 101. It might actually be true. I hope so.

 

[FrontSeven]

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I think we all knew someting was wrong anyway. All this does is clear up the confusion. The timing of it is a bit weird, but I don't actully care.

Bill can make mistakes. That's another thing to consider. Playing a guy as lead blocker sounds like a creative thing to do but there is technique involved, and risk involved, and maybe it was not such a great idea to put your franchise DL in that situation.

And maybe there is more to this that is still under wraps. Something smells wrong, but it's one of those stories that may have to get cleared up after the guy retires.

Me: Strong suspicion that Richard took a bad whack or two playing a position that was not required, and that he won't be in that position any more. I also suspect that something doesn't quite make sense about the rehab and some blame is going around about that going wrong. I think perhaps that could be treated as a separate issue since he did the rehab off site, which is not exactly the Patriots Way.

 

[DaBruinz]

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Finding another Patriot willing to publicly blame BB for his injuries. Now Seymour denounces BB for lining him up at fullback. I believe this article was long in the making. Figures "Man-hands" would publish it the day before a playoff game. She was waiting for the perfect moment to ambush the man she most hates in NE sports.

Sorry, PE, but I gotta call BS on you. Seymour did NOT blame BB. His TRAINER blamed BB.

Is this "Personal trainer" even qualified to rehab a player from injury? Maybe Seymour's "private rehab", organized by his mouthpiece, damaged the knee again after surgery and the rest of the story is just bull$hi# to cover his tracks.

Taylor is a strength and conditioning coach. That is slightly more than a personal trainer. However, you could be correct regarding the idea that he was responsible for the long re-hab and not the injury itself.

This offseason, while interviewed by Pete Prisco at DisneyWorld, Seymour said "I have my own priorities, like being at home in SC" instead of going through offseason workouts to rehab his surgically repaired knee with the team. We now learn the surgery appears to have been an arthroscopy to clear out some cartilage, a common procedure from which most players recover in a month. But Seymour pursued his own rehab with his buddy, reinjured it, and showed up to camp out of shape. Did he even inform the Patriots of his problems this spring, when he was "rehabbing" in South Carolina instead of Gillette, like other injured players, or did he surprise them by showing up hobbled?

Do you hava a link to the Prisco article? Also, with the money these guys get, I am 100% certain they have to submit their rehab routine to the team for approval and that the team has the right to monitor their progress with status updates and visits.

Its pure speculation on your part that he re-injured the knee. Also, Every one rehabs differently. Not to mention that the doctor could have missed something. Just like the TEAM DOCTOR did with Ty Law and his Lis Franc fracture that they diagnosed as a friggin high ankle sprain.

Seymour's getting paid 10 million dollars a season to perform. If he can't, then he should get off the field and let Jarvis Green play and stop making excuses to the press. He did the same thing last year, with another puff piece from his close friend Ron Borges explaining his elbow injury to the public, against team policy, and how Seymour still was better than Warren.

I don't remember this article. But if Borges was such a good friend, wouldn't he have also written about Seymour's knee issues?

A finger pointing, excuse making article is not what the team needs from a team leader just prior to the most important playoff in its history. It is another illustration that Seymour is not a team player IMO. His contract extension (which coincides with his subpar play) to this point has been a big blunder. If he contributes meaningfully to a Pats SB this season, then it was well worth it. Otherwise...

I can't stand "Man Hands" either. But IMO you are blowing much of this article out of proportion. You attribute things to Seymour that he never actually said. To imply that Seymour is tanking it since he got his extension is stupid. Especially when you look at the fact that MANY people in this BOARD blamed BB for Seymour's injury. Many people questioned using Seymour as a FB and thought it was stupid. So, why is it now that here is an article regarding it, you act like no one on this board every said anything of the sort?

 

[danny88]

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Exactly. What makes you think a personal trainer speaks for Richard Seymour? He's quite capable of speaking for himself.

Denial is a helluva feeling!

 

[DaBruinz]

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"Man Hands" lied in the article.

When Seymour's grandfather died in December 2003, Seymour missed multiple days to attend the funeral and mourn with his relatives. Coach Bill Belichick, who wanted him back sooner, removed him from the starting lineup the following week against Jacksonville.

Seymour was gone until late Friday night. He missed Friday's practice. He did show up for Saturday's team meetings. And he the game was that Sunday. It wasn't a WEEK in between as she implies.

The team rule had been that you don't start if you don't practice on Friday. It shouldn't have been a big deal. The fact that Man Hands mentions it and lies is pretty sad.

 

[Clonamery]

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"Man Hands" lied in the article.



Seymour was gone until late Friday night. He missed Friday's practice. He did show up for Saturday's team meetings. And he the game was that Sunday. It wasn't a WEEK in between as she implies.

The team rule had been that you don't start if you don't practice on Friday. It shouldn't have been a big deal. The fact that Man Hands mentions it and lies is pretty sad.

We know the agenda...

 

[ClevTrev]

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Not sure why the vitriol for Seymour which has been building all season. Figured after the many fine seasons he had with the team there'd be some money in the bank where his past performances were good indicators that he was not up to par at the end of last season and this season. So be it. This is a board that vilifies Maroney for what some perceive as sub-par performances, and now we get a chance to put Seymour in that category. Yeah, that's it, let's rip him since he's done nothing for us lately and is a complete bum.

While we're at it, let's lump him with Ron Borges (where that came from, I have no idea), the very guy who ripped the team for drafting Seymour. Let's see, who else can we go after? Oh yeah, MacMullen. Jeez, what a rube, she's laying in wait to spring this at the right time to undermine the Pats march through the playoffs. And don't forget Seymour's trainer and BB and the Pats trainer and . . . .

Anyone want to discuss how the Pats are going to defend the Jags? I think they'll commit to stop the run and force Garrard to pass, but that must be in some other thread I missed . . . .

 

[captain stone]

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This shouldn't come as a shock, but BB and $eemour probably haven't exchanged Christmas cards since BB didn't start him the Sunday after he missed practice to attend his grandfather's funeral. From that point forward, I believe that Richard's professional priorities have been: 1a) Richard; 1b) Money; 3) the Patriots. The only question is, just how far apart are those priorities from each other? Regarding $eemour's mini-camp no-show before the final year of his rookie contract: had the FO not caved and signed him to a heretofore unprecedented (exception:TB) extension, he might have been ready, and willing, to hold out for the season. In fact, he laid the groundwork for Deion Branch to become Meion, one year later.

"Richard is the biggest, fastest, most agile defender in the league", quoth gravytrainer Ken Taylor. What Richard is, Kenny, is perhaps one of the better 3-4 DEs in the league, when healthy. Nothing more, any more.

And another BB-bashing joint just before the POs from Jackie Mac? No shock there, either. Reiss is the only glob scribe whom I read for Pats-related material.