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NFL News OT: Schefter says talks are "not in a good place" between the NFL and the refs union

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Please no replay of 2012 with replacement refs...

I think the union needs to be open to more accountability for their officials and it sounds like they aren't at all.
 
Gotta rip the bandaid off with these clowns.
 
That will solve nothing.
Actually it would. You're asking guys with other jobs to call great games on Sundays. You get what you pay for.
 
Actually it would. You're asking guys with other jobs to call great games on Sundays. You get what you pay for.
And your evidence for this is what? How great the officiating is in baseball and basketball?
 
Never will understand a trillion dollar enterprise cheaping out at a position that has so much impact on the product. Crazy.
Let me help you understand it: For all the complaining, we are all gonna watch anyway, and they know it. So there's simply no incentive to worry about improving the product.
 
Let me help you understand it: For all the complaining, we are all gonna watch anyway, and they know it. So there's simply no incentive to worry about improving the product.
It isn’t just fans to consider. Part time refs (think low pay) impact sports books. THAT is a cash cow.
 
Bring back the replacement refs! They were awesome.
In MHO thats when all this lousy officiating started, the last time the reffs struck and the replacements stepped in. It was all down hill after that.
 
It isn’t just fans to consider. Part time refs (think low pay) impact sports books. THAT is a cash cow.
A bad call is just as likely to help a sportsbook as hurt one, so that consideration is a wash.
 
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That will solve nothing.
Agreed. May even make things worse.

I'd prefer they not be full-time. That puts them completely under Roger's thumb. The way it is now they have plenty of non-NFL income so he has far less of a lever over them than they would if they were full-time.
 
A bad call is just as likely to help a sportsbook and hurt one, so that consideration is a wash.
Interesting point. But, snd I admit this is conspiracy ish, low paid refs would seem ripe for bad actors to pay off.
 
The integrity of the game is important.
 
Agreed. May even make things worse.

I'd prefer they not be full-time. That puts them completely under Roger's thumb. The way it is now they have plenty of non-NFL income so he has far less of a lever over them than they would if they were full-time.
Agreed.... which is why the Refs' union is so much more powerful than the Players.
 
Apparently the Refs are upset that they cannot favour the Chiefs anymore and want to increase the number of penalties against the Pats.
 
At least this is some good news on the darkest day ever.
 
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