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Niners have had enough of Aiyuk

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Lynch and the organization have had enough, Aiyuk is done in SF



Terms of the divorce have not been disclosed. I'm sure the Cult of Verticality will be all over this but even on a short money prove it deal I think the Pats should do their homework and double check it
 
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Lynch and the organization have had enough, Aiyuk is done in SF



Terms of the divorce have not been disclosed. I'm sure the Cult of Verticality will be all over this but even on a short money prove it deals I think the Pats should do their homework and double check it
Nopes. He is a malcontent. The team is coming along really well and this was the guy who did not want to come here ... We should pass . Too much history with him...
 
He will only get a 1 year prove it deal with some team if he's lucky.

Keep drafting them Vrabel! They will hit on a WR eventually if they keep trying.
 
He just wants to play with his buddy Daniels.
 
 
Not gonna lie, I’m fine with our WR corp. would I turn down a sure fire #1…hell no. But we’re not desperate enough for this dude.
Yup, this is also where I am at.

I mean we got a good bunch here:

Diggs - Should be even better next year being two years removed from his injury.
Boutte - This guy just might be our best WR. I have said this before.
Williams - Year two leap and already making some plays this year (more than Polk/Baker combined in two years).
Hollins - Man, I love this guy.
Douglas - I think he gets lost in the shuffle and lost in the slot when Maye goes outside the numbers. But a good player.
Chism - I can see him making a year two leap.

If we bring in a WR...the guy has to be an ELITE WR...I am talking +100 balls, +1K yards, and +8TD type of guy....(like Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, Puka Nacua, JSN, etc...).
 
Let’s stalk defensive ends and line backers from now on, ok? I only want to see threads about interior OL with drinking problems and anger issues.
 
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Isn’t his knee trashed anyway? I’d be more excited about a back up long snapper being available than Ayiuk
 
Not gonna lie, I’m fine with our WR corp. would I turn down a sure fire #1…hell no. But we’re not desperate enough for this dude.
It'd have to be a fire sale price with no risk for the Pats

There's precedence though - Corey Dillon was the bad boy of the NFL and he got a second chance here and it paid off

Though for every Corey Dillon there's usually more Albert Haynesworths out there so the track record isn't great - and I'm not even gonna bring up Aaron Hernandez!
 
It'd have to be a fire sale price with no risk for the Pats

There's precedence though - Corey Dillon was the bad boy of the NFL and he got a second chance here and it paid off

Though for every Corey Dillon there's usually more Albert Haynesworths out there so the track record isn't great - and I'm not even gonna bring up Aaron Hernandez!

Reminds me that Randy Moss was a "problem child" till he came here and had a good season, but then quickly wore out his welcome.
 
If we bring in a WR...the guy has to be an ELITE WR...I am talking +100 balls, +1K yards, and +8TD type of guy....(like Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, Puka Nacua, JSN, etc...).
I almost feel like even that would be a waste given how the Maye/McDaniels offense has been evolving - take a look at the targets per player.

We don't have anything similar to Moss/Welker who Brady threw to on almost every play.

Maye spreads the ball out so much our #1 WR (Diggs) only had @100 targets - yet also had 85 catches (yup - he only fails to make the catch 15% of the time!)

Part of the reason that completion rate IS so high is BECAUSE he spreads the ball out so much and even utilizes guys like Boutte and even little guys like Douglas and Rhamonde as legit deep threats.

DCs really just aren't quite sure how to defend that - they'll put their best CB (or more) on Diggs and then Diggs might go an entire game without even getting a target while Douglas and others go on a tear. And as soon as the D adapts to the hot receiver Diggs of course gets his looks and catches almost 9 out of 10 balls.

Spending money on a true elite Moss-esque guy who expects 175+ targets a season - at the expense of all the other receivers we have - is a waste and undermines what makes Maye and the Pats so potent, as odd as that may sound.

Let's put it this way - if Diggs (who I agree may even be better next season) got the same amount of targets as Chase, I don't think he'd even come CLOSE to his 85% completion rate.

He'd be closer to 60% like Chase actually IS - just think of all those catches others would make.

Jefferson is an even better example. He's in that elite category and gets @ 150 targets a season - 50% more than Diggs

And that earned him 84 catches last season

Which is great - but Diggs had 85 catches on just 100 targets. Meanwhile, what happened to all those other targets that an elite WR getting 150 targets would have missed? Well on the Patriots those targets go to guys like Douglas, Henderson, Stevenson etc. - who make the catches the teams who put all their $ on the "elite" receivers leave on the table.

Paying a guy like Diggs is money well spent - but it's better to spread the rest around with quality depth than to "waste" it on a WR looking for 150 - 185 targets a season - all of which makes an offense really predictable and can be its achilles heel.
 
Nopes. He is a malcontent. The team is coming along really well and this was the guy who did not want to come here ... We should pass . Too much history with him...
Compare his post surgery situation to Diggs’ post surgery situation, one couldn’t (or wouldn’t ?) get on the field. One had 80+ catches and 1000+ receiving yards. One is a leader who is loved by the team, the other, the team can’t wait for him to be gone.
 
I'd rather spend a pick on AJ Brown.
A 3rd rounder and something else. I like AJ and the Vrabel connection but NOT like him for a 2nd as he's 29 years old.
 
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