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Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Im predicting a multiple score win, whether you consider that a walkover or not is up to you.

Limited Benford? No Bosa to worry about? Unless Josh Allen's playing defense too, the Bills are ****ed.

2 Bills drive issue all season has been, they think Josh Allen Heroball is a sustainable winning formula. It's not only not, it never has been. All the "big game experience" they're 7-6 in the playoffs. I dunno, it's just not that impressive, and i think we've been in the suckitude morass for so long, that a lot of people just checked out on football, and just bought the media narratives.

If you've watched these teams this year, you'll see something very different than "well Josh Allen". Especially Buffalo on the road.

I thought Bosa was listed as questionable. Did something change?
 
So will Jennings get put on IR or put on waivers to try to sneak back to PS? It's too bad, he had some good size and punch in the middle. Johnson is not big and Rham is horrible at short yardage.
 
Oh look we have visitors from our buddies at Two Bills Drive Stadium Wall. What's up Bills fans!




Delusional... lol. A team wins 10 in a row and their fans on their message board are optimistic about them? You don't say. Lol

Most fans here have this game as very close.
 
Sometimes I think this game might be won by a very comfortable margin, but I am finding it hard to figure out which team is more likely to win by that comfortable margin. If Drake can match up to Josh in something like a standoff, I think we win, because as a team - culture-wise if not talentwise - we are better than they. If one or the other QB dominates, that QB's team will win. (Duh.) Or maybe it'll be settled by which team can run the ball better, which involves both teams' running game and as well as their run D's. How in the world to you cipher that out? Maybe if Henderson has a great game, we win, but it seems to me the Bills' running game is more likely to have better yards-per-carry than we, and their running back(s) are at least as likely to have an explosive game as we are.

Maybe whoever scores first will win, which brings to mind our D's season-long weakness in that regard (I know last week was better: we'll see.) And so on.

If I had to guess, I would guess Josh does indeed have one of his superman Games with no more than the usual one or two dumb plays and that that carries the day. I base this in part on what happened in the first game. The Bill's were a clown show for much of that game - penalties/turnovers - and we still barely won. Add to that the slight boost desperation can give, and the possibility that the Bills figure out our patchwork o-line, which would not help at all. If we do lose, It'll be the biggest bummer this season, but thankfully, bummers have been pretty sparse this year.
 
The Bills had more talent 3-5 years ago. They kept some of those same players and they just aren't the same...some are old / injured. IMO the Patriots have more talented players and coaches then the Bills. The game is at home. We are going to win.
 
The Bills had more talent 3-5 years ago. They kept some of those same players and they just aren't the same...some are old / injured. IMO the Patriots have more talented players and coaches then the Bills. The game is at home. We are going to win.
One of them is your avatar and made him a scapegoat. He was the least of their problems. I expect him to once again have a big game to stick it to the Bills.
 


patriots are 2nd worst rush defense since week 9 ??? wow


run stop success?

since week 9

Falcons- 71 rush yards. Bijan Robinson was held to 46 yards

Bucs- 113 rush yards, 65 yards came on 2 drives, which there were 2 WR runs that totaled 22 yards

Jets- 140 rush yards, 56 yards came on the 1st drive of the game, 35 yards came on their last 2 drives when we were up 2 scores. 49 yards allowed on other drives

Bengals- 120 yards, Allowed 76 in the 1st half, 1/4 of the yards came on a 21 yard run at the end of the half when the defense was guarding against the pass with 18 seconds left. Tonga had gone out early in the 1st

Giants- 111 yards, 71 yards allowed in the 2nd half up 2-3 scores the whole half, 58 yards of those 71 came on 1 drive at the end of the 3rd when we had started rotating guys and playing vanilla.

I mean run defense hasn't been as good as it was the 1st half of the year but basically 2 games of this was without Williams and Tonga. But this "run success rate" doesn't at all take into game context. Tonga looks like he'll be back for this one


Interesting that she mentions our run defense but ignores bills run defense which has allowed 238, 189, 210, 197 and 202 in games this year
 
Pats are overdue for a slip up/dud game
Bills have momentum coming off the Bengals win
Hard to sweep any division opponent, let alone one with what many consider the best QB in the NFL
Sometimes teams come out slow/struggle coming off a bye week (yes, I'm aware of Vrabel's stellar record in this situation)

I have the Pats losing this one in a close game. Some will say this makes me a "FaKe FaN"... whatever. Hope to be pleasantly surprised.
You’re not a fake fan.

You’re just wrong.
 
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