NFL News Trouble in River City - NFLPA Collusion

[n1997y]

Just saw this breaking news reported on ESPN. Apparently the NFLPA and the NFL colluded to keep details of arbitration results over NFL ownership collusion from reaching NFLPA members.

Attorney Peter Ginsberg, who has represented many NFL players for decades, said he was stunned to hear about the confidentiality agreement.

"As the head of the union, Lloyd has an obligation to protect the best interests of the players," said Ginsberg, a lawyer at Moskowitz Colson Ginsberg & Schulman. "By agreeing to a confidentiality agreement, the union purposefully blocked the players from receiving crucial information about the operations of the NFL.

"The NFL and the union should not be conspiring together to keep important information from the players."

I expect we will hear much more about this in the near future.


Sources: NFLPA, NFL concealed collusion findings.

 

[RobertWeathers]

More on this.

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The NDA seems odd but it is possible Howell was trying to prevent himself and Smith from being embarrassed for agreeing to the, "Clear preponderance of the evidence", standard and the NFLPA members from losing even more faith in Howell.

I do believe the owners colluded...but it seemed like it was impossible to prove so the NFLPA hid it.

 

[Ross12]

So they colluded about collusion?

 

[maust]

ESPN reporting the collusion to be silent about collusion as breaking news, PFT has been hitting this story on and off for months and Pablo Torre busted it out in real depth 2 weeks ago. I suspect the reality of this isn't as Earth shattering as the hand wringers would like it to be nor as minor as the league and union would like it to stay.

Does anyone really doubt owners don't talk to their 'business partners' and GM's to their peers? That on occasion that talk doesn't cross the blurry line and sometimes the truly distinct one? Players should be ripshit about their union burying the arbitration finding but honestly from the league and union standpoint I get it. Busine$$ is good and the money trucks are rolling like never before. Why rock the boat?

 

[RobertWeathers]

ESPN reporting the collusion to be silent about collusion as breaking news, PFT has been hitting this story on and off for months and Pablo Torre busted it out in real depth 2 weeks ago. I suspect the reality of this isn't as Earth shattering as the hand wringers would like it to be nor as minor as the league and union would like it to stay.

Does anyone really doubt owners don't talk to the 'business partners' and GM's to their peers? That on occasion that talk doesn't cross the blurry line and sometimes the truly distinct one? Players should be ripshit about their union burying the arbitration finding but honestly from the league and union standpoint I get it. Busine$$ is good and the money trucks are rolling like never before. Why rock the boat?

Yep. The NFLPA is going to make over $1b in revenue thus why they hired Howell to run it like a business.

Part of my wonder if Goody/owners threw Howell and the NFLPA a golden bone so he would agree to the NDA.

 

[n1997y]

Yep. The NFLPA is going to make over $1b in revenue thus why they hired Howell to run it like a business.

Part of my wonder if Goody/owners threw Howell and the NFLPA a golden bone so he would agree to the NDA.

yes. And their personal finances would be opaque. Great opportunity for corruption, running a billion dollar business with no oversight. What this seems to highlight is that Howell and the NFLPA put their selfish interests ahead of the players.

Another crooked politician running on false promises?

The union elected Howell as executive director in June 2023. He was paid $3.4 million last year. According to a source who heard Howell's pitch to the executive committee, he ran on a platform of fresh ideas and transparency.

 

[Vindicate]

ESPN reporting the collusion to be silent about collusion as breaking news, PFT has been hitting this story on and off for months and Pablo Torre busted it out in real depth 2 weeks ago. I suspect the reality of this isn't as Earth shattering as the hand wringers would like it to be nor as minor as the league and union would like it to stay.

Does anyone really doubt owners don't talk to their 'business partners' and GM's to their peers? That on occasion that talk doesn't cross the blurry line and sometimes the truly distinct one? Players should be ripshit about their union burying the arbitration finding but honestly from the league and union standpoint I get it. Busine$$ is good and the money trucks are rolling like never before. Why rock the boat?

From a union standpoint it only makes sense if your leadership thinks and is paid off by the owners. The players will have to get to a point where they want to wrestle it back to the power of the players, period. At that point they could take so much more from the owners. Players may make a lot, but the owners make multiples more while not doing a damn thing (and often while extorting cities of taxpayer money for damn near no return to the taxpayer).

 

[Brick27]

Union leadership doing dirty work, shocking.

 

[FortressX]

Report: Lloyd Howell works as part-time consultant for private-equity fund with NFL ties

Howell's two-year tenure feels like it's crumbling.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[RobertWeathers]

Report: Lloyd Howell works as part-time consultant for private-equity fund with NFL ties

Howell's two-year tenure feels like it's crumbling.

www.nbcsports.com

He needs to go.

 

[XLIX]

Florio and Torre have been pushing this issue more and more and the NFL and NFLPA have been ignoring them and hoping the issue disappears. Now it seems the Union has finally been shamed into acting.

I can understand the NFL screwing over the players but it sure seems to me the NFLPA leadership are screwing over their own members here as well. I just don’t understand why the Union is doing what they did.

 

[n1997y]

Florio and Torre have been pushing this issue more and more and the NFL and NFLPA have been ignoring them and hoping the issue disappears. Now it seems the Union has finally been shamed into acting.

I can understand the NFL screwing over the players but it sure seems to me the NFLPA leadership are screwing over their own members here as well. I just don’t understand why the Union is doing what they did.

I think it has to be that the union leadership sees their interests as divergent from the members, and they are serving themselves not the members.

 

[n1997y]

Report: Lloyd Howell works as part-time consultant for private-equity fund with NFL ties

Howell's two-year tenure feels like it's crumbling.

www.nbcsports.com

He needs to go.

Come on, be reasonable. He’s only making $3,400,000 to run the NFLPA. How’s he supposed to get by on such a pittance without a side gig?

 

[maust]

I think it has to be that the union leadership sees their interests as divergent from the members, and they are serving themselves not the members.

Been that way with the union leadership from the beginning, going back to Upshaw and Rozelle I don't expect it will change anytime soon either.

 

[gobesmug]

So they colluded about collusion?

 

[XLIX]

I think it has to be that the union leadership sees their interests as divergent from the members, and they are serving themselves not the members.

As more reporting comes out, it is certainly looking that way.

 

[ViperGTS]

So, how many draft picks are the Pats going to lose this time? 3 firsts?

 

[signbabybrady]

So, how many draft picks are the Pats going to lose this time? 3 firsts?

 

[bresna]

So, how many draft picks are the Pats going to lose this time? 3 firsts?

None, The NFL will just put a ban on drafting any players from UNC.

 

[n1997y]

And Howell has resigned.

Possibly over getting caught expensing strip club visits to the NFLPA…

NFLPA Executive Director Lloyd Howell Resignation Could Be Tied to Strip Club Expenses: Report