It’s Official… college football is over as we know it.

[TommyD4207]

First player hold out (Iamaleva) ended in transfer. AFTER getting $8M beginning in HS.

Flood gates are open.

This won’t end well.

That said, might be a net positive for Tennessee as honestly the kid kind of sucked.

I disagree, actually. Especially considering what Mario Cristobal said about it after it went down - I think there will be more of a wink-and-nod agreement between ADs and GMs in big football programs, to not let kids do this going forward. Hold-outs won't be tolerated.

And you hit on it in the last sentence. This isn't Arch Manning or something. When Iamaleya ends up finishing his college career at Incarnate Word for $2500 in NIL money, I think players will get the point.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

The greed of the schools did them in. All they had to do was keep it exactly the same as it was, just share some money with the players and let them market themselves. But the greedy mother ****ers fought tooth and nail over it so the athletes said **** it if we’re going to court we want free agency. Now we all lose.

But in typical American fashion, they’ll spin it like we should be mad at the players rather than the insanely wealthy schools themselves who, in most cases, could wipe their asses with checks the size of most of these kids nets worth and not even care.

 

[Koma]

A guy named “I-am-a-leava” being the main character in a story about college players changing schools seems like something out of a bad movie.

 

[mgteich]

The NCAA refused to pay players.

Now they pay players.

Suprise, surprise: The system isn't working the way they want it to.
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The system will change. The most obvious change would be 2-3 contracts. Another solution is a better set of rules, perhaps resulting from the kids being part of a player's union and then negotiating.
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In the end, college football is here to stay. It generates a lot of money, and that money is used by the colleges to support other sports.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Because they generate massive revenues over and above the value of their scholarships

Is this really true? (See upstater1's post above.)

 

[Froob]

High School compensation is new to this chaos, but reviewing a lot of NCAA highly rated football players for the upcoming draft some have been to 2-3 schools during their college years. As a fan it is tough to follow a team when the players are choosing to change sides...
Locally our Providence College BB, a traditional Big East power, has lost most of its players for next season, a real challenge for coaching as every year you have to figure out how to get these new players to play together..
I cannot imagine being a coach through this much change to create a team and so much effort to recruit.. a Sisyphean task for sure.
What ever happened "Be true to your school"????

Coaches have no loyalty either so I don’t feel bad for them at all. Maryland’s coach was negotiating with Villanova during March Madness.

 

[upstater1]

Because they generate massive revenues over and above the value of their scholarships

You could say this about average workers at any business.

But at the end of the day, the business has to take into account all required expenditures.

It's a money-losing proposition when you look at expenditures

 

[upstater1]

This…the NCAA didn’t think the whole NIL thing through and really screwed up. What you mentioned is probably the only realistic way to fix it. Make these kids sign an ironclad 3yr contract with no wiggle room to renegotiate.

The boosters’ motto should be, “if we pay…you stay”.

The problem with what Rick is saying is that the players are right now NOT considered employees.

As soon as they sign a contract, employment law kicks in, and then you'll truly see some weirdness (not only in terms of taxes, but status as students, eligibility for tuition remission, etc.).

 

[upstater1]

Is this really true? (See upstater1's post above.)

They generate massive revenues but they require even more expenditures. This is true at over 400 D1 schools. Less than 10 make money.

Even programs like U Michigan and Ohio St with north of 200 million in revenues ended up losing money last year.

 

[XLIX]

First player hold out (Iamaleva) ended in transfer. AFTER getting $8M beginning in HS.

Flood gates are open.

This won’t end well.

That said, might be a net positive for Tennessee as honestly the kid kind of sucked.

That's why they let him go.

 

[XLIX]

I am hoping schools choose to make an example of him and lock him out. That will stop this trash fast.

If he's smart he'll take a couple mil from a non power-2 conference (like Texas Tech in the Big 12) to pump his stats and work his way back into the SEC for big money.

 

[XLIX]

I think they overplayed their hand, but we will see.

Funny you say that since I had said Iamaleava overplayed his hand. I don't see him getting the money he wants elsewhere.

 

[Mike the Brit]

I don't want to get into politics, but I'm really puzzled by college athletics.

I can see why the NFL wants a feeder league, and I can see why fans want teams to root for. But ...

1. It doesn't bring in money (upstater1).

2. The argument that college sports give a college education to poor kids who wouldn't otherwise have one has become more and more bogus as they have become more and more professional. The idea of a transfer portal makes it even more hollow.

I can see two other arguments.

3. College sports bring money in to colleges because it makes rich alums more willing to donate. But, so far as I can see, they channel their donations into the sports programs, not math or humanities.

4. Sports hold mega-campuses like Penn State or Ohio State together and create some kind of community identity.

 

[borisman]

Sing along now to the classic Cyndi Lauper "Money Changes Everything." The scary part is if you can dredge up the beat.

I prefer “Money” by Pink Floyd so no dredging up necessary.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

How many 5 star blue chip high school players have we seen fizzle out by the time they reach the pros… a lot.

Some guys peak in high school, it’s stupid to overpay.

If you think about it, them making 8 or however million this kid made could be more than enough to set him up for several lives and doesn't even NEED to play pro ball. I think this was his plan TBH. Milk it before he gets to the pros and is exposed. I can't say I blame the kids for wanting to get paid that is for sure. There just needs to be a better way to do it. Now H.S. compensation (I didn't know this was even something until this post) should not be going on. Things are already tough/bad in H.S and throwing $ into it with parents wanting to make the most out of their little Billy's skills before he blows a knee out or gets CTE a la he who's name we shall not say creates a perfect ****storm. Paying H.S. kids shouldn't be happening because you usually are not even paying THEM, you're paying the parents. Combine that with greedy human nature and it gets ugly.

 

[imahobgoblin]

If he's smart he'll take a couple mil from a non power-2 conference (like Texas Tech in the Big 12) to pump his stats and work his way back into the SEC for big money.

Ummm I don't think he is smart.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

High School compensation is new to this chaos, but reviewing a lot of NCAA highly rated football players for the upcoming draft some have been to 2-3 schools during their college years. As a fan it is tough to follow a team when the players are choosing to change sides...
Locally our Providence College BB, a traditional Big East power, has lost most of its players for next season, a real challenge for coaching as every year you have to figure out how to get these new players to play together..
I cannot imagine being a coach through this much change to create a team and so much effort to recruit.. a Sisyphean task for sure.
What ever happened "Be true to your school"????

Absolutely this. Shame they could not enforce some sort of contract duty like if you get paid via NIL, you sign with this school for the remainder of your eligibility...unless I'm just out of the know and there already is something like this and they have already found a work around.....

 

[fester]

You could say this about average workers at any business.

But at the end of the day, the business has to take into account all required expenditures.

It's a money-losing proposition when you look at expenditures

Expenses are endogenous to revenue and benefits.

I am on faculty at an SEC school. I guarantee you the revenue and expenses generated would be a millionth of what they actually are if I was the starting linebacker alongside the rest of my department's faculty.... There may be demolition derby value but we would be cheap and no revenue.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Because they generate massive revenues over and above the value of their scholarships

Including using their jerseys to make big $$$$ when the kids couldn’t get a cut of it.

 

[lancerman]

The greed of the schools did them in. All they had to do was keep it exactly the same as it was, just share some money with the players and let them market themselves. But the greedy mother ****ers fought tooth and nail over it so the athletes said **** it if we’re going to court we want free agency. Now we all lose.

But in typical American fashion, they’ll spin it like we should be mad at the players rather than the insanely wealthy schools themselves who, in most cases, could wipe their asses with checks the size of most of these kids nets worth and not even care.

Nail on head. Rich greedy ****s at the top ruined it and screwed the kids over, the correction was probably an over correction and now we face the growing pains. But this never would have happened if you just let these kids profit off their likeness and weren't extremely restrictive while making money hand over fist.