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Pretty happy how Day 1 went though wish some of the new acquisitions were a little younger as may be trending downward but still vast improvements over what we had. Love the Williams signing, a true building block, may eliminate as to who i was thinking we would be drafting, Mason Graham, and would entertain the idea of now trading out of that spot assuming Carter and Hunter are gone.

Need offense and another pass rusher, wouldnt sign Robinson if he was as bad last year as i am hearing. if we can trade down a few spots and grab Campbell as well as a second that would be ideal.
 
LT is pretty near as important as QB these days. LT cost KC a chance in the Super Bowl twice. NE needs to run the ball too.

If NE waits until # 38 some team will move up and take Wolfies lunch money.
If there was a franchise LT available at 4, I'd agree but as much as I like Will Campbell, I just don't think you pass on Travis Hunter for him. There passable 3rd round options at LT even if they do miss out at 38.
 
If there was a franchise LT available at 4, I'd agree but as much as I like Will Campbell, I just don't think you pass on Travis Hunter for him. There passable 3rd round options at LT even if they do miss out at 38.
You are essentially taking a CB at 4 then... So why sign Davis?
 
Josh Conerly if he falls, Aireontay Ersery if he doesn't. The other possibility would be a pass rusher but I'd look to one of our third round picks for that.
If Hunter is the pick at #4, I would prefer BPA at 38 instead of forcing a LT pick. Sign a stopgap LT in FA and solve the problem in the 2026 draft along with an X receiver.
 
I don't see value at LT picking at #4, post combine performances, especially.

If you are not sold on Hunter and focused on LT, trading down into the 7-14 range and also getting a future #1 and a #2 or #3 this year would get a top LT and fill other holes as well, while spending less money
 
If we take the homer and rose colored glasses off, the first day for Pats was good not great.
No bold or innovative trades or signings.

Landry, Williams and Davis are solid signings
But the other 5 are weak older overpriced or unproven depth pieces
Hollins, Dobbs, Tonga and Moses and Spillane
Nothing to get legitimately excited about.

The draft is not going to fix things either in short term.
Still a non playoff team that has no elite playmakers
Lack of meaningful trades tells you that Vrabel knows they are years away
26 top 5 pick incoming and may be best for long term future

Its good to see excitement on the board but yesterday was just a small step not a giant leap to respectability
 
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I don't see value at LT picking at #4, post combine performances, especially.

If you are not sold on Hunter and focused on LT, trading down into the 7-14 range and also getting a future #1 and a #2 or #3 this year would get a top LT and fill other holes as well, while spending less money
Who's paying that to move up?
 
LT is pretty near as important as QB these days. LT cost KC a chance in the Super Bowl twice. NE needs to run the ball too.

If NE waits until # 38 some team will move up and take Wolfies lunch money.
ROFL
LT cost KC two additional chances at the SB
How many SB chances would they have missed without Mahomes?
 
Who's paying that to move up?
If it's at the lower end of that 7-14 range, that's the expected price, or near it, if there's a team in love with someone on the board at #4
 
If we take the homer and rose colored glasses off, the first day for Pats was good not great.

Landry, Williams and Davis are solid signings
But the other 5are weak older overpriced or unproven depth pieces
Hollins, Dobbs, Tonga and Moses and Spillan
Nothing to get legitimately excited about.

The draft is not goibg to fix things either in short term.
Still a non playoff team that has no elite playmakers
Lack of meaningful trades tells you that Vrabel knows they are years away
26 top 5 pick incoming and may be best for long term future
I think most people would say they had the least talented team in the NFL. How much did you think was realistically possible in one day? I don't think it's homer or rose colored glasses to say they had a great day because one great day doesn't mean they solved everything. I think they took some really positive steps.
 
Competent is being kind. He’s barely that. But they have been shut out there so far so we’ll see what happens? I think they are pretty committed to addressing needs before the draft so they can go BPA, but you can’t always get what you want.


they can go BPA and still get a solid T in the draft, especially if they move back up into the end of the 1st
 
If we take the homer and rose colored glasses off, the first day for Pats was good not great.
No bold or innovative trades or signings.

Landry, Williams and Davis are solid signings
But the other 5 are weak older overpriced or unproven depth pieces
Hollins, Dobbs, Tonga and Moses and Spillane
Nothing to get legitimately excited about.

The draft is not going to fix things either in short term.
Still a non playoff team that has no elite playmakers
Lack of meaningful trades tells you that Vrabel knows they are years away
26 top 5 pick incoming and may be best for long term future

Its good to see excitement on the board but yesterday was just a small step not a giant leap to respectability

True Sam, you are the only realist here. Then again you didn’t want them to take Daniels or Drake Maye, and just recently wanted them to trade the #4 for Myles Garrett, who only got 40 million a year. So you will have to forgive me if I look elsewhere for sound football judgement.
 
they can go BPA and still get a solid T in the draft, especially if they move back up into the end of the 1st

Last year's draft was much, much better for LT's. How did that strategy work last year. What sold starters were available

IMO, your strategy leads to Lowe as our starting LT.
 
they can go BPA and still get a solid T in the draft, especially if they move back up into the end of the 1st
That's what they thought last year too, and weren't able to trade back in. And the results of those late first pick OTs weren't great either. So it was lose-lose no matter what we did.
 
This team is not 1 player away from a championship, drafting an average LT at pick #4 doesn't move the needle. We need elite talent. BPA at #4
You assume the LTs are average.

I don't know about you, but I don't want to see Drake mayes bell rung (again) because of the misguided notion of BPA... Protect the QB.

Not doing so can lead to us doing this all over again in two years time
 
Bedard:

Vederian Lowe 2024 (my stats): 803 snaps, 30 pressures (3 sacks), 13 penalties
Cam Robinson 2024 (PFF): 1,073 snaps. 64 pressures (8 sacks), 13 penalties
You left out:
(My (Bedard's) Stats)
(PFF Stats)

He cooked the numbers in his own tweet to get a Hot Take (tm) out there.
 
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