Brady vs Belichick: The Verdict

[kmac14]

Three part series of which Episode 1 airs tonight at 10:00pm on the Viceland channel.
On Xfinity channel 910.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I'm glad this is being settled once and for all. We can all rest easy now.

 

[signbabybrady]

Three part series of which Episode 1 airs tonight at 10:00pm on the Viceland channel.
On Xfinity channel 910.

That's quite an ominous title not sure this one's for me but I'll probably still watch. I'll keep a vomit bag handy.

 

[Steve102]

I think I'm good. It's over and done. A handful of QBs and a failed noob coach later, I'm more than ready for the Vrabel/Maye Era to begin.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Hosted by Malcolm Butler and Adam Seward

 

[Pape]

 

[lancerman]

This topic has been debated more than abortion has

 

[AQPE]

te·di·ous
/ˈtēdēəs/
adjective

too long, slow, or dull; tiresome or monotonous.
"a tedious journey"

 

[mike_usagisan]

It’s a boxing special where Steve Belichick beats up Brady’s daughter. 89 million people are expected to watch and later ask themselves why they did so.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

It's funny to me how people have these debates and act like Brady was a static caliber of player for the whole 2 decades. Part of what made him such a special player was the way he tirelessly worked to reach the levels he did. He won 3 super bowls before he ever made an all pro team. Pretending he was the same caliber of player in 2018 as he was in 2001 is an insult to the work he put in to improve.

The Pats won 3 in 4 super bowls from 2001 to 2004. That's been matched in history and there were teams who did it more dominantly. Then they won 3 in 5 years later on, which was also matched in history (and again by KC just recently). What wasn't matched was the 2 decades of sustained dominance and annual Championship game appearances. Brady wasn't good enough at the start of his career to carry teams and he doesn't win those rings to pad his legacy without a GOAT coach/GM in BB. By the end of his career though, his GOATness was carrying some of BB's outdated coaching and scouting methods to a couple extra years of shelf life.

Players are always more important than coaches. If you can only take one you take Brady, easily. Although you do have to acknowledge the role good coaching played in his development too. But still, it's easy Brady if you have to divide up a pie of credit. But without both you don't get the 2 decades straight of success that is their all time differentiating factor in NFL dynasties.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

This debate really will never end will it?

 

[Ray Ray 717]

This debate really will never end will it?

It ended in Tampa when Brady won a superbowl and BB was fired after 4 miserable years without Brady.

 

[sb1]

Mayo vs Lowe: The Verdict coming in 2030

 

[signbabybrady]

Episode 1 was actually pretty good. The case for Tom Brady. Episode 2 will be the case for Bill and based on how this episode went I think it will be equally good too.

A little weird that it was a lot of Mad Dog and Greenberg but I guess the enemy perspective is ok.

A ton of good quotes and stories from the players too. Faulk, Light, Andruzzi, McCourty, and Ted Johnson had a lot of screen time.

Ultimately not really anything new but the story never gets old to me.

 

[Guts]

This debate really will never end will it?

It's been over after the Tampa Superbowl

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I'm glad this is being settled once and for all. We can all rest easy now.

Now, we need

Halas vs Luckman: The Verdict

Parker vs Layne: The Verdict

Wilson vs Layne: The Verdict

Brown vs Graham: The Verdict

Lombardi vs Starr: The Verdict

Stram vs Dawson: The Verdict

Landry vs Staubach: The Verdict

Noll vs Bradshaw: The Verdict

Walsh vs Montana: The Verdict

Gibbs vs Whoever Happened To Be His Quarterback At The Time: The Verdict

 

[sb1]

Or Mac Jones vs Belichick: The verdict

Ratings baby

 

[festy1986]

I wonder what Kraft thinks known he's fallen completely out of this conversation.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

It ended in Tampa when Brady won a superbowl and BB was fired after 4 miserable years without Brady.

Andy Reid & Mahomes fell out and could no longer work together the Chiefs would have Reid gone in 2 seconds, this was only a Patriots debate every other franchise QB over coach in 2 seconds if the QB was operating at a top 5 level.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Stupid idea, won’t watch it.