PATRIOTS NEWS Jerod Mayo FIRED per Schefter

[Mack Herron]

 

[billdog3484]

i like breer but he thinks he is smarter than he is

 

[Mack Herron]

i like breer but he thinks he is smarter than he is

He seems to want Vrabel in Chicago, but he has a point.

 

[Zuma]

Sometimes it's better to rush to get the more qualified candidates...HC, OC, DC, etc. before other teams get them. But Mayo wasn't qualified...true.

 

[n1997y]

Is there a Rooney Rule for DCs too?

I think so

 

[billdog3484]

He seems to want Vrabel in Chicago, but he has a point.

if a candidate comes in and says i want x, y, and Z. and kraft says yes, ill give you want you want. offers him position this week. who wouldnt accept the position (obviously of course, if candidate wants job).

 

[mgcolby]

Sometimes it's better to rush to get the more qualified candidates...HC, OC, DC, etc. before other teams get them. But Mayo wasn't qualified...true.

I may be stating the obvious here. But I think the rush is Vrabel. Because Johnson thus far is only meeting with us and Chicago. Not to mention all the restrictions around him while the Lions are still in the playoffs. If they don't get blown away by Johnson in the initial interview (or any other serious candidate) then I think its a full on press towards Vrabel. And I think that is a two way street. Vrabel, if you believe the reports, wants the job. But he can't sit around for weeks waiting for the Pats to make a decision, while other jobs fill up.

 

[Mack Herron]

if a candidate comes in and says i want x, y, and Z. and kraft says yes, ill give you want you want. offers him position this week. who wouldnt accept the position (obviously of course, if candidate wants job).

Why should Kraft make an offer before completing the interview process? He should hear multiple points of view. His instincts failed him the last time.

 

[RobertWeathers]

i like breer but he thinks he is smarter than he is

I think he generally puts good content out there thats legit but there is smarminess to him that is off-putting.

 

[signbabybrady]

Hopefully the plan is to rush into a place where we can pounce on Vrabel but then still interview a few more candidates still and do it honestly where we have a baseline in Vrabel that other Candidates would need to beat out. Even if that could potentially allow someone else to get after Vrabel. It benefits both sides us and Vrabel do due diligence and see all options.

 

[billdog3484]

Why should Kraft make an offer before completing the interview process? He should hear multiple points of view. His instincts failed him the last time.

i have a suspicion his instincts told him to hire vrabel last time. he just liked mayo so much and wanted to be a good man and keep his word and guilt led him to hiring mayo.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

The unfortunate thing is that we cannot fire the owners. Mayo was the Fall Guy for their incompetence, but maybe I am being too harsh and maybe Eliot Wolf deserves some of the blame. The Krafts are probably behind the pathetic FA period, but who was behind the monumental whiff on drafting Ja'Lynn Polk instead of Ladd McConkey, etc.?

 

[Real fan 02]

PLEASE LMAO IF ONLY

 

[signbabybrady]

The unfortunate thing is that we cannot fire the owners. Mayo was the Fall Guy for their incompetence, but maybe I am being too harsh and maybe Eliot Wolf deserves some of the blame. The Krafts are probably behind the pathetic FA period, but who was behind the monumental whiff on drafting Ja'Lynn Polk instead of Ladd McConkey, etc.?

In part the Chargers.

We obviously didn't have to trade but we did so thinking one of the 2 WRs would be there. Unfortunately for us the second one does not appear to be anywhere even close.

Failure to asses the players properly.
And Failure to assess the trade down properly.

I'd say at least a decent part of the blame in both cases falls on Wolf if not all of the blame.

 

[Real fan 02]

In part the Chargers.

We obviously didn't have to trade but we did so thinking one of the 2 WRs would be there. Unfortunately for us the second one does not appear to be anywhere even close.

Failure to asses the players properly.
And Failure to assess the trade down properly.

I'd say at least a decent part of the blame in both cases falls on Wolf if not all of the blame.

Absolutely positively agree. Is while I feel his role has been redesigned. Groh also has a part in this as well. In order for us to get back to drafting, signing and development of players like we used too the front off and the next HC (Vrabel hopefully) all need to share the same vision. I don't think polk and baker are bust I believe under the right coaching and development they could become say dion branch and David givens.

 

[NormZauchin]

So, sacrifice the home field advantage. No more snowplow games. Dolphins will feel right at home in December.

We shouldn't build a dome until Miami builds one that is air-conditioned. Of course, the Patriots could build a retractable dome and open it up when Miami comes to play on a snowstorm day.

 

[captain stone]

Hopefully the plan is to rush into a place where we can pounce on Vrabel but then still interview a few more candidates still and do it honestly where we have a baseline in Vrabel that other Candidates would need to beat out. Even if that could potentially allow someone else to get after Vrabel. It benefits both sides us and Vrabel do due diligence and see all options.

Substitute Ben Johnson for Vrabel and I completely agree.

 

[captain stone]

The unfortunate thing is that we cannot fire the owners. Mayo was the Fall Guy for their incompetence, but maybe I am being too harsh and maybe Eliot Wolf deserves some of the blame. The Krafts are probably behind the pathetic FA period, but who was behind the monumental whiff on drafting Ja'Lynn Polk instead of Ladd McConkey, etc.?

Don't try to over-complicate the matter: Eliot Wolf (& Al Groh's boy) is Completely to blame for Both last year's free agency period AND the subsequent draft; and he needs to be FIRED, as in, like, Yesterday.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Don't try to over-complicate the matter: Eliot Wolf (& Al Groh's boy) is Completely to blame for Both last year's free agency period AND the subsequent draft; and he needs to be FIRED, as in, like, Yesterday.

Could be, but I suspect that the Krafts were meddling in the failed FA offers. I found it interesting the Wolf said, "I was expecting maybe a little bit more internal development"; this does not make me think that he is a professional. You cannot turn donkeys into thoroughbreds with more "development". You cannot go into each new season without continually upgrading the personnel at all positions. I think that they felt that the defense would be as good as the year before and did not need any major additions. Oops.

And of course the offense was a disaster; ignoring LT and going for the glamour positions is an amateur mistakes, typically made by meddling owners.

 

[Ross12]

While Breer is right that NE would benefit from a thorough search, I think that is outweighed by the benefit of rushing to hire Vrabel this week. Why? Because he is the only “premium” candidate that is eligible to start work immediately. All other candidates that are still employed in their current positions must wait another 2 weeks to get the ball rolling, or even longer, if their team makes it past the Divisional Round.

There is a sizeable advantage to hiring arguably the most attractive coach on the market (Vrabel) and then also getting at least 2 weeks of time to start poaching staff from all other teams before the rest of the teams with vacancies even start. You’ll get your pick of the litter when it comes to OC, DC, position coaches, front office guys if Vrabel wants it… Could be huge.