PATRIOTS NEWS Jerod Mayo FIRED per Schefter

[archstanton543]

Is he gonna invest in roster and coaching at some point or are we supposed to be happy he's building useless white houses and giant TVs?

He has to. League rules says that he has to spend money this year.

"White houses and giant TV's"? Are you talking about the improvements to the stadium? Like I just said, like them or not, he did invest in the stadium.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

The team should have fired him during the week if they wanted their team to lose. Obviously, they were planning to do so after the game. Why take the risk? That's my biggest question.

Fans here love the firing, but there's some pushback to it from the national stage.

1) Mayo was hired to replace the GOAT who seemed to have fallen off on the GM side but still regarded well as an in-season coach.
2) The record didn't get any worse from last year.
3) The roster was considered terrible to start with and most feel the GM did a poor job in the draft this year after Maye.
4) They sat on crazy amounts of cap space rather than actually giving Mayo the best talent possible to do his best with.

I'm not saying this was the wrong decision to move on, but that can be true while also acknowledging that they put him in a very bad situation and thus firing him after one year, never mind in the middle of that first year, looks pretty bad optically. I think waiting until after the year made sense with how bad it already looks.

Think about it from the standpoint of a new coach coming in... BB is considered the GOAT and the first time he had a legit bad season, they fired him. Then the next year, they fired the first year guy. If you're coming in, what happens if they don't turn it around in a year. Would the Krafts be ok with a 6-11 season next year? Success isn't always linear so a new coach coming in might need a year to focus on implementing his system and finding "his guys" rather than an immediate focus on turning it around. Successful head coaches don't always post great records year 1. I think that's something you have to be concerned with as a new coach coming in here - do the Krafts (and the fanbase since the Krafts seem pretty conscious of and driven by fan morale) have attainable expectations and/or any level of patience?

 

[festy1986]

He has to. League rules says that he has to spend money this year.

"White houses and giant TV's"? Are you talking about the improvements to the stadium? Like I just said, like them or not, he did invest in the stadium.

League rules say he has to spend money. X amount.

I asked is he going to INVEST in the roster? Throwing out 1 year deals to the Gibson's and hoopers of the world is a deeply unserious endeavor.

Did anyone say he didn't invest in the stadium?

Doesn't anyone care?

 

[turkeyneck]

Not to mention the aggressive QB sneaks, RPO plays, designed QB runs, etc... You know, the stuff he refused to do all year when he needed to but now suddenly was able and willing to do right as soon as he was not supposed to do it.

At least someone had the sense to get Maye out before all that stuff. I knew Mayo would go balls to the wall and feared he'd get the franchise injured on his way out the door. I'd like to know who made the call to sit Maye.

 

[archstanton543]

League rules say he has to spend money. X amount.

I asked is he going to INVEST in the roster? Throwing out 1 year deals to the Gibson's and hoopers of the world is a deeply unserious endeavor.

Did anyone say he didn't invest in the stadium?

Doesn't anyone care?

Teams give out one year deals to players all the time.

You just said the stadium and training facilities are not up to par. You're the person who said he didn't invest in the stadium.

 

[festy1986]

Teams give out one year deals to players all the time.

You just said the stadium and training facilities are not up to par. You're the person who said he didn't invest in the stadium.

I said no such thing.

So you're saying that they're going to give out one year deals to meet the league quota on League spending for the year?

Well that's not good enough.

 

[signbabybrady]

Why do people keep saying the stadium is old? How many other teams have a stadium younger than 25 years?

Eagles, Zona, Indy, Dallas, Jets/Giants, 9ers, Minn, ATL, LA, LV, and a couple are in process like Buff and Tenn. So seems like we are in the middle.

 

[in 12 we trust]

Blowing the #1 draft pick was very 1990's "Victor Kiam" type of stuff that made the Patriots a joke for much of my life. Would have been more optimistic Monday with a veteran coach hopefully soon to be hired and dealing the first pick for more first round picks for the new regime to rebuild. Really have to question Kraft's pro football IQ to allow this to happen.

 

[turkeyneck]

Going into Monday I have to credit Kraft even more. I did not realize the **** storm he was going to face in the media for firing Mayo. I assumed most outlets would simply say "yeah he was a bad coach" but a lot of places are saying "he didn't get a fair chance", "the roster wasn't good enough, that's Kraft's fault"... blah blah blah.

I have heard multiple times, throughout the year and again today, that "Mayo didn't get to build his own staff" which is just a blatant lie. He absolutely COULD HAVE, he was just INCAPABLE OF DOING SO. He did not know anyone, he had no connections. He hired Covington because that was his only connection. His only OC connection was Nick Caley, and Caley told him to get bent. So he had to turn to Wolf for help. That is definitely not a case of being disallowed from building his own staff. Seems like ******** someone in his camp is feeding outlets.

Regardless, again, credit to Kraft as he must have known he would need to take this heat which probably hurts his HOF bid. Although another **** season next year also would have hurt it, which he must have realized too. The fastest way to fix that is to win.

I'm ok with Kraft feeling the burn. It'll teach him not to short-circuit the hiring process in the future. Make sure you get it right and you won't suffer the blowback.

 

[Brotherblues]

Wondering if old friends like Jon Robinson, Scott Pioli, or Thomas Dimitroff come on temporarily to help with the coaching search. Would assume (hope) Kraft wouldn't rely on his gut again and there is really no experience on the staff currently to conduct a search.

This is what we need. Can't have Kraft doing the interviews with just his cronies/Wolf at his side. We need a team of real football great minds to sit in and be part of it as consultants. Put together a team like Pioli, Dimitroff, Scar, Ernie (I'm just spitballing respectable names, doesn't have to be them). Pay them a sweet consulting fee to be part of a board that will interview and recommend the best candidates for HC. Kraft will of course have final say, but I want a group of people like that to talk to all the candidates and give Kraft a list of who to choose. The HC can then bring his preferred GM and the rest of his staff.

 

[Ross12]

At least someone had the sense to get Maye out before all that stuff. I knew Mayo would go balls to the wall and feared he'd get the franchise injured on his way out the door. I'd like to know who made the call to sit Maye.

I'm 99% sure it was the Krafts.

 

[festy1986]

Eagles, Zona, Indy, Dallas, Jets/Giants, 9ers, Minn, ATL, LA, LV, and a couple are in process like Buff and Tenn. So seems like we are in the middle.

If the Patriots had a owner with deep pockets there no doubt would be a new arena in the next 5 years.

Other stadiums built Around the time Gillette was are already being phased out.

We know Massachusetts is a dump for getting building permits but that fits Kraft just fine cause he doesn't have the money to build a modern stadium anyway.

 

[Family]

Going into Monday I have to credit Kraft even more. I did not realize the **** storm he was going to face in the media for firing Mayo. I assumed most outlets would simply say "yeah he was a bad coach" but a lot of places are saying "he didn't get a fair chance", "the roster wasn't good enough, that's Kraft's fault"... blah blah blah.

I have heard multiple times, throughout the year and again today, that "Mayo didn't get to build his own staff" which is just a blatant lie. He absolutely COULD HAVE, he was just INCAPABLE OF DOING SO. He did not know anyone, he had no connections. He hired Covington because that was his only connection. His only OC connection was Nick Caley, and Caley told him to get bent. So he had to turn to Wolf for help. That is definitely not a case of being disallowed from building his own staff. Seems like ******** someone in his camp is feeding outlets.

Regardless, again, credit to Kraft as he must have known he would need to take this heat which probably hurts his HOF bid. Although another **** season next year also would have hurt it, which he must have realized too. The fastest way to fix that is to win.

It's incredible reading the board today how little credit Kraft is getting for firing Mayo. After the consensus was pretty much he wouldn't have the balls to fire a minority.

Ownership made a mistake, and now they realize they have to correct it.

The cost of firing Mayo is unfortunately losing the #1 pick. That's life. There is always a cost for a mistake.

Yeah it's reported Kraft will have to eat up to 10 million on this. Let's ignore that and keep posting he's cheap.

And, of course, Kraft will have to fire the white guy if he's is 4-13.

Really the board has personal issues.

 

[maust]

Why do people keep saying the stadium is old? How many other teams have a stadium younger than 25 years?

There are currently 10 stadiums 'younger' than Gillette with 2 more under construction and a couple more that will probably happen in the next 4-5 years. By 2030 Gillette will be middle of the pack age wise. Like so many of the other nonsense/uninformed things that get brought up the stadium's age is a non-issue issue.

 

[Froob]

Bills made a better effort to lose it.

He still had to deliver the ball. Knock on him before this was accuracy. He was accurate today.


Tommy’s right. Go watch it again. Watch Milton escape the clutches of defenders, sense blind side pressure, deliver the ball accurately on the run off platform. Then see if you can tell yourself it was all Bills not playing and really believe that.

Mike White was unbelievably bad. Probably tanked his own career lol

 

[reflexblue]

Not to mention the aggressive QB sneaks, RPO plays, designed QB runs, etc... You know, the stuff he refused to do all year when he needed to but now suddenly was able and willing to do right as soon as he was not supposed to do it.

Bingo we have bingo. All year long they played conservativly, literally running up the middle on every first down. Thats all they had to do yesterday, just run the ball. But all of a sudden like you pointed out that was all out the window. If they had just played their usual game we'd probably have the first overall pick. Both mayo and AVP should have been fired just for that.

 

[festy1986]

It's incredible reading the board today how little credit Kraft is getting for firing Mayo. After the consensus was pretty much he wouldn't have the balls to fire a minority.

Ownership made a mistake, and now they realize they have to correct it.

The cost of firing Mayo is unfortunately losing the #1 pick. That's life. There is always a cost for a mistake.

Yeah it's reported Kraft will have to eat up to 10 million on this. Let's ignore that and keep posting he's cheap.

And, of course, Kraft will have to fire the white guy if he's is 4-13.

Really the board has personal issues.

Kraft isn't getting credit from me until we see where he's going with this.

Yesterday I gave him credit for the quick trigger, no one saw it coming THAT fast. However, we can't be sure he won't repeat last year's mistakes this year.

He hasn't earned any good will.

 

[Family]

Kraft isn't getting credit from me until we see where he's going with this.

Yesterday I gave him credit for the quick trigger, no one saw it coming THAT fast. However, we can't be sure he won't repeat last year's mistakes this year.

He hasn't earned any good will.

Six Super Bowl championships under his watch.

You're a credible source.

 

[archstanton543]

And, of course, Kraft will have to fire the white guy if he's is 4-13.

He already fired a white guy for 4-13. His name was Bill Belichick.

 

[signbabybrady]

If the Patriots had a owner with deep pockets there no doubt would be a new arena in the next 5 years.

Other stadiums built Around the time Gillette was are already being phased out.

We know Massachusetts is a dump for getting building permits but that fits Kraft just fine cause he doesn't have the money to build a modern stadium anyway.

I know Tenn was built around the same time and they are building new. How many others?