PostGame Thread 2024 OFFICIAL WEEK 17 POST GAME THREAD: Patriots lose 40-7

[Ross12]

Why keep Wolf? He is the most responsible for this.

So Kraft doesn't have to say he "was wrong" on Wolf either. "Wolf was great, but he wasn't our actual GM, he was just holding the ship steady for our real GM this year. Thanks Wolf, you did it! See all according to plan."

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Good points. I said myself Andrews is done. Don't see him coming back we know he's a tough SOB.. he has nothing to prove has his rings and made his $$$.. so next season strange at C.. now we need to figure out LT, LG & RT.

Robinson was at LG yesterday. Onwenu at RG. Hopefully that is the solution for the interior line going forward. I am not sure if Robinson can fix his problems with stunts and delayed blitzes.

Can Wallace play? Who knows. We need a LT.

 

[festy1986]

Robinson was at LG yesterday. Onwenu at RG. Hopefully that is the solution for the interior line going forward. I am not sure if Robinson can fix his problems with stunts and delayed blitzes.

Can Wallace play? Who knows. We need a LT.

The solution is 5 new starters. Let's stop pretending like we have any NFL starters on our team. Including strange. We don't.

 

[Ring 6]

So Kraft doesn't have to say he "was wrong" on Wolf either. "Wolf was great, but he wasn't our actual GM, he was just holding the ship steady for our real GM this year. Thanks Wolf, you did it! See all according to plan."

Why would you want us to keep the guy who ran the worst off session in memory so Kraft can save face? I want kraft to publicly admit he was wrong about everything so we understand he really recognizes it.
Kraft saving face has no value to me or the team.

 

[0818NePa]

Why was it clear after 2017?

The Wickersham article on internal strife didn't come out until 2 years later. There were no rumblings in the press about the fact that Guerrero had been exiled (it's pretty clear that this is the #1 thing that pissed off Brady).

The article came out Jan 5 2018. Sorry but your timeline is not correct. I am not going to go over it once again (and it is off topic here). But, at that point, it was already a 4 year drama in the making. And it was not necessary to get a ESPN article to see it. It all started at the 2014 Draft, after BB drafted Garoppolo. Go back to BB press conference. Talking about TB age and contract situation. It all started there (by the way TB talked about it in one the tv series that come out - dont remember which one).

 

[Jim Beankie]

Until he has time to throw and receivers that get separation
The mistakes I agree with you
That comes with maturity
If it doesn’t then he will be called out

DD has the best separation numbers out of all Patriots players in the last 9 years...

 

[The Gr8est]

DD has the best separation numbers out of all Patriots players in the last 9 years...

Now if he can just learn to be where Drake expects him to be after separating.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Why was it clear after 2017?

The Wickersham article on internal strife didn't come out until 2 years later. There were no rumblings in the press about the fact that Guerrero had been exiled (it's pretty clear that this is the #1 thing that pissed off Brady).

What was clear to me at the time is that they didn't trade Garoppolo when they could have, at the end of the 2016 season, after he'd looked capable of running an NFL offense for a game and a half. Instead, they traded him at the last minute for much less than they could have expected before the 2017 draft.

The guess I had at the time was that Belichick thought he had some kind of agreement with Brady that he would bow out at the top with a Super Bowl triumph and a giant F-you to Goodell and Deflategate, but that Brady changed his mind after the 28-3 triumph. Perhaps Brady had wanted to go on all along and Belichick was trying to get him out against his will.

Whatever it was, it was a sorry ending to a great partnership -- the more so because, once Garoppolo had been traded, Belichick didn't go all in drafting quarterbacks so the Pats were left with nothing better than the shell of Cam Newton. The Guerrero stuff seems to have been a piece of petulance on BB's part to get his own back on Brady.

 

[Ross12]

Why would you want us to keep the guy who ran the worst off session in memory so Kraft can save face? I want kraft to publicly admit he was wrong about everything so we understand he really recognizes it.
Kraft saving face has no value to me or the team.

Not sure why you think it's about what I personally want... It's about what I think the Krafts will actually entertain doing.

Yes I'd love for them to clean house top-to-bottom and for Kraft to come out and fall on the sword for all of it, but I don't live in Neverland, I live in the real world. I know that **** is never happening.

 

[dliverey44]

Still on Rookie contracts is my guess..without wasting time looking

He is playing on the franchise tag this year at 21.something Mil

 

[captain stone]

They are the same. They both put unqualified employees in important, attractive positions to fail.

Yep... With the exception of Alonzo Highsmith, this is still a FO with Bill's hirelings all over it.

 

[sb1]

Same as the little rascals.

sb1 is the new Spanky

Week 5 baby. Just watch you’ll see. Your smurf will be running wild all over the NFL

 

[captain stone]

I cannot believe how fast the discipline left the building.

The "discipline" started to leave the building at the end of the 2019 season...

 

[sb1]

The solution is 5 new starters. Let's stop pretending like we have any NFL starters on our team. Including strange. We don't.

Yep. Goes back to what I was saying about the talent here with Bill’s stamp all over it. Guys who might not have talent at one position but they’re flexible and versatile. They’re not nearly as valuable outside of Bill’s system. We need top shelf talent.

 

[captain stone]

Not one damn bit.

You're still here, really: It's your FO, your HC/Co-DC, your DC/DL coach, your CB & Safety coaches, your WR coaches, and a lot of your players, All of whom really, Really ****ing Suck.

 

[Real fan 02]

Robinson was at LG yesterday. Onwenu at RG. Hopefully that is the solution for the interior line going forward. I am not sure if Robinson can fix his problems with stunts and delayed blitzes.

Can Wallace play? Who knows. We need a LT.

Exactly. Once we cure the tackle spots the line can be more stabilized. We need to be able to allow Drake to take that year 2 jump and in order for that the OL cannot be anything close to what it is now. Get him some tackles and guys on the outside like Buffalo did smartly for Allen with Diggs.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

DD has the best separation numbers out of all Patriots players in the last 9 years...

We need a couple more of his type

 

[captain stone]

Same as the little rascals.

sb1 is the new Spanky

Is Mayo & Covington then the new Farina & Stymie...?

 

[PatsfanTN]

Why would you want us to keep the guy who ran the worst off session in memory so Kraft can save face? I want kraft to publicly admit he was wrong about everything so we understand he really recognizes it.
Kraft saving face has no value to me or the team.

Won’t happen. The ONLY out for RK I see is to fully give the reins over to Johnathan. Being new management Johnathan can fire and hire whomever he wants. Mayos deal was with RK, not Johnathan(so I assume). Everyone will see right through it, but it’s the only way I see Mayo being fired this year.

 

[Love The Drake]

We will have the number 1 overall pick and we need be right GM for a trade down,
Giants and Raiders are up.