Patriots Pregame Thread Week 15 pregame: Chiefs @ Pats

[*ChungFu*]

Patrick is out there slamming helmet,cursing out refs and had to be restrained. Belichick need to hide this feeble team, they ain't ready for an angry Pat Mahomes.

Yeah. Wait till you see how hard he sashays now.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yeah. Wait till you see how hard he sashays now.

We are the perfect landing spot for KC.. unfortunately

 

[Wozzy]

The QB started faltering this season after the Dallas game.. all downhill from there.. Parker lost the ball in the lights at Vegas after a sensational pass from the former QB. I think Christmas will come before I can place a bet that he'll remain healthy.

He's only got one more guaranteed year at 6 million per, not too egregious. Certainly won't stop them from spending next offseason with among the most cap space in the NFL.

 

[*ChungFu*]

We are the perfect landing spot for KC.. unfortunately

Or the Pat's D can be pissed that they gave up more than 10 points and has its own axe to grind. I don't think we win, but KC is at a crossroads now and nothing is guaranteed.

 

[Wozzy]

We are the perfect landing spot for KC.. unfortunately

A team with a good defense is rarely an easy out... and we're not sure this isn't a completely different team now with a different QB.

 

[Wozzy]

I mostly agree with this (as we really do have the same opinion overall on the subject based on a lot of your previous posts), but I brought up Browning because of the absolute nature of your statement. I'm merely presenting that there are exceptions to the rule. It's a matter of what is your definition of a bad QB? When someone is undrafted like Kurt Warner (who completed 28% of his passes his junior year of college) or picked late like Brady, or last like Purdy, did they start as a bad QB? If they end up getting good coaching and play with an excellent line and receivers, allowing them to think more clearly and grow and become a better processor after some growing pains, would you say that's a bad QB becoming good or just latent goodness allowing to blossom? Have you seen TB12's first drive? Warner's and Purdy's 1st appearances? Talk about hot garbage. TB12 was a hair's width away from an INT and probably turning into Stidham, although we'll never know, thankfully.

Edit: I also disagree with the better weapons for Aidan. I'd always thought that Adams/Meyers/Renfrow was a terrrrible WR combination. Also, "better weapons" should also mean better compatible weapons, as sometimes you just need a QB and WR to get on the same wavelength to achieve something good.

Thing is, Jake Browning has three starts in his entire career... and thats only one fewer than Zappe.

It's far too early to make declarations about either of them. Both showed some ability to throw with accuracy in college, we'll see what it looks like going forward.

 

[Jim Beankie]

It seems like Zappe won’t be starstruck with pop star Taylor Swift in attendance to watch her boyfriend, Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce. Zappe said he’s not a fan of Swift’s music and prefers country.

Ahm... don't know how to break this to you Zap, but Taylor was country back when you were barely past your Mama's milkmakers...

 

[GaryfromTO]

 

[PATS16N0]

Mahomes is overrated AF.

 

[RIpats88]

Weapons can enhance an already good QB, they can't make a bad QB good.

Sure, having elite talent has nooo effect on the QBs performance...

Wonder why the titans got worse once they traded AJ brown..

Or why Miami/eagles decided to bring in Hill/brown

If they were smart they would've just signed Juju/parker for the same results!

Just because Bill has failed to find or doesn't value an Elite talent receiver doesn't mean we have to play pretend that really juju/parker are the same as a jamar chase/AJ brown and really he is just smarter by not having one!

How can we have watched years of guys like Gronkowski or Randy moss carrying coverage with them and making elite plays. And then somehow argue that an elite receiver has no effect on an offense? And that juju/parker are just the same value!

 

[Triumph]

That's no where even near the worst calls in NFL history. It's a pre snap penalty. Pretty cut and dry.

How often do you see the offense lined up in the neutral zone?

I am trying to recall another penalty like this one. Its unheard of and inexcusable because the offense is all about being lined up correctly.

 

[Triumph]

Taylor Swift just cut a new blockbuster hit - You Broke My Heart Toney

 

[Wozzy]

Sure, having elite talent has nooo effect on the QBs performance...

Not only did I not say this ^, I literally said the opposite of that.

Wonder why the titans got worse once they traded AJ brown..

Beyond their starting QB missing roughly half the season the last two seasons?

Or why Miami/eagles decided to bring in Hill/brown

Because they could afford it, are we counting their rings already?

Funny, you didn’t mention the Raiders bringing in Devante Adams and Darren Waller… odd?

If they were smart they would've just signed Juju/parker for the same results!

Just because Bill has failed to find or doesn't value an Elite talent receiver doesn't mean we have to play pretend that really juju/parker are the same as a jamar chase/AJ brown and really he is just smarter by not having one!

This ^ is a rambling screed of nonsense responding to comments that nobody said.

How can we have watched years of guys like Gronkowski or Randy moss carrying coverage with them and making elite plays. And then somehow argue that an elite receiver has no effect on an offense? And that juju/parker are just the same value!

They didn’t win a ring with Moss, Gronk got hurt in 2016 but they won a ring anyway.

Mac sucks, all the weapons in the world wouldn’t make him good.

Jameis Winston had the best weapons in the NFL in 2019 on Tampa, he led the NFL in passing yards and was 3rd in TD’s… he also posted a historically bad year in turnovers. His interception and fumble totals were atrocious, his team won 7 games.

Mac is Jameis with a weaker arm.

 

[Guts]

Draft pick be damned

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Pacheco makes a big difference for KC. If he’s still out I’m tempted to say the Patriots will lose by less than 20.

 

[sb1]

Pacheco makes a big difference for KC. If he’s still out I’m tempted to say the Patriots will lose by less than 20.

Pacheco is annoying in a football way and yeah he does make a big difference.

Then again Cryin' Kermit doesn't have a legit win over the Patriots in his career. 2019 Harry was in bounds and 2020 was the Hoyer/Stidham game where the team was forced to travel on gameday after a rescheduling. Hoyer still somehow had the Pats within 3 in the 4th quarter.

 

[slash83]

Mahomes is a pouty *****.

 

[sb1]

Peyton's giant forehead thinks the play should be blown dead after an offsides flag so we don't see that happen.

Nah if you're going to do that for offsides for that reason then why not do that for every penalty. Don't see the need. If your team didn't benefit from a great play by your TE then don't line up offsides.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Mahomes is a pouty *****.

 

[sb1]

All 3 of them are gonna be booed the fk right out of Foxboro and I'm here for it.