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Game Day Thread OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: 2023 Week 8 - Patriots at Dolphins

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That's because every time they pitch the ball to him on sweeps, he has neither the shiftiness, the vision nor the toughness to make the needed yards, Ian.
He needs to do the Deion Branch thing and just get down. Douglas did that at one point last week and it reminded me of Branch, and I'm certainly fine with it. Live to line up for another play.
 
Because Tyreek has a 3cone/Shut of 6.53/4.06, so he can cut like a lightsaber through butter. Even though I'll believe in my speed guys to the very end (which seems close...), during the draft I was shocked they got someone (TT11) with 3cone/Shut times slower than TB12. It was almost like they were making up for missing out on DK Metcalf (who has terrible 3cone/Shut but has rare size with that straight line speed).

Reagor has terrific explosiveness and very good speed, but his agility (like Thornton) is poor.
 
He needs to do the Deion Branch thing and just get down. Douglas did that at one point last week and it reminded me of Branch, and I'm certainly fine with it. Live to line up for another play.
I agree with this completely. Avoiding injury generally is a very underestimated skill area. They oughta coach that up more than they do. It appears to have helped Tua, certainly.

Think about qb's who played a lot of baseball and know how to slide. That's a valuable skill.
 
Reagor has terrific explosiveness and very good speed, but his agility (like Thornton) is poor.
Oh dang, you're absolutely right. Imho, that is something that can be trained (think speed skating training), so hopefully it's improved over the years.
 
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I agree with this completely. Avoiding injury generally is a very underestimated skill area. They oughta coach that up more than they do. It appears to have helped Tua, certainly.
He’s supposedly been working with a jujitsu coach, who has helped him learn how to fall and protect himself better, which is certainly a good thing for him.
 
I agree with this completely. Avoiding injury generally is a very underestimated skill area. They oughta coach that up more than they do. It appears to have helped Tua, certainly.
TT11's fighting for extra yards in a preseason game during his rookie year led to his 1st big injury.
 
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He’s supposedly been working with a jujitsu coach, who has helped him learn how to fall and protect himself better, which is certainly a good thing for him.
I like players who take this kind of initiative.
 
A win here would do wonders for the team psyche, imagine beating josh allen and then winning in miami!!

Not that confident though to be totally honest, we just never seem to put up more than 17ish on this team in most cases and that would not be enough to beat this offense . Hoping we turn it around
 
I like players who take this kind of initiative.
That thing with his hands was scary…sort of surprised he came back and definitely glad he’s seemingly avoided anything significant since then.
 
That's because every time they pitch the ball to him on sweeps, he has neither the shiftiness, the vision nor the toughness to make the needed yards, Ian.
Pitching to him on sweeps really isn't "getting the ball to him in space. What they need to be doing is, as mentioned, hitting him on the move with slants and crossers. If you hit Thornton that way, he has the speed and vision to take it to the house every time.

If you go back and watch him play at Baylor, he's line up and if the defender tried to use inside leverage, Thornton would blow by him and then slant or in cut, make the catch and take off. If the defender lined up with outside leverage, Thornton would smile and run a shallow slant, leaving the defender in the dust because they couldn't match his speed.

The key was to hit Thornton in stride. If you didn't hit him in stride, then you were taking away his key advantage.
 
A win here would do wonders for the team psyche, imagine beating josh allen and then winning in miami!!

Not that confident though to be totally honest, we just never seem to put up more than 17ish on this team in most cases and that would not be enough to beat this offense . Hoping we turn it around
Agreed. This game will basically send them down one of two paths, and I’m really hoping they can put together enough of an effort to keep building some momentum.
 
He’s supposedly been working with a jujitsu coach, who has helped him learn how to fall and protect himself better, which is certainly a good thing for him.

Mac Jones or Thornton?
 
Same OL lineup as last week. That's good.
 
Looking forward to hopefully another big play from Pharaoh Brown this week. Guy has done a great job flying under the radar while coming up with some huge catches in recent weeks. He was in on 38% of the snaps last week, second-most for the season (40% at Dallas). Quietly been a great addition this season.
just one?

hoping he tears the cover off the ball
 
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I want to see them build from last week. Especially Mac and the OLine.
 
Can't see the Patriots pulling this one off in Miami. They always play poorly down there for whatever reason.

If they could prove me wrong that would be a pleasant surprise.
 
He needs to do the Deion Branch thing and just get down. Douglas did that at one point last week and it reminded me of Branch, and I'm certainly fine with it. Live to line up for another play.
On one play last week Douglas should have went out of bounds but stayed in for about 1-2 more yards. He can’t keep doing that…he’s too small to take constant hits.
 
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I always listen to the radio broadcast. Listening to Zo do color is like those people who used to visit Bedlam ("Bethlehem") Hospital to watch the crazy people. It's my guilty gameday pleasure.

 
Weather in Miami currently - not terribly hot, which is a good sign:

 
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