BB in damage control mode regarding Brady's departure

[1960Pats]

Talk about damage control. Cam Newton, former Pats QB and Bill's choice to replace the GOAT, has some more splainin to do after his latest comments about women.

Cam Newton does himself no favors with his latest comments about women

In 2017, when Cam Newton was gainfully employed as the starting quarterback of the Panthers, he made a ridiculously sexist remark during a press conference. It was so ridiculously sexist that the league issued a statement condemning it. “The comments are just plain wrong and disrespectful to the...

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Just think, if Bill listened to some of the posters here Cant would still be here at 35 mil a year.

 

[crawhammer]

The patriots offense scored 462 points. 6th best.
Pitt 2004 372 11th best
Atlanta 2008 391 10th best
Carolina 2011 406 5th best and they were 6-10
Seattle 2012 412 9th best
Indy 2012 357 18th best
Wash 2012 436 4th best
Tampa 2015 342 20th 6-10
Dallas 2016 421 5th best
Cleve 2018 359 20th best 7-8-1
LA 2020 384 18th best

So thank you for proving my point.
Your top 10 going back 20 years includes exactly 1 offense that scored more ppg (27.25 to 27.18) and 2 ranked higher. Your list of the most productive rookie led offenses include 4, fully 40% of them that were below average vs the patriot 6th ranking.
2 are in the argument the other 8 aren’t even debatable.

My list is of rookie quarterbacks who have had good (or better) seasons over the past 20 years. So I don't think I was proving your point... whatever that is? You're all charged up about Mac Jones and the offense when despite whatever numbers you want to throw against the wall they weren't that great. 15th ranked offense with the 14th ranked passing offense. The running game was top 10 (8th) and scored the 2nd most rushing TDs (24). The best part of their offense by far was their running game. Jones had a nice season... no need to make more than it was. The whole team got exposed over the final month... that brief hold of the top seed was highly deceptive.

Back to my list... if you look at the quarterbacks, and their individual numbers, then you'll see why I'm listing them as having had good or better rookie seasons.

By the time the roster could be rebuilt with Brady, he would be at least 45. Saving 50 million by not paying him allowed the rebuild to happen sooner. It’s really a simple concept that your emotions seem to be blinding you to.

I'm not emotionally bound to Brady's having stayed in New England. His leaving worked out for him... that's irrefutable. How it's worked out for the Patriots is to be determined. So far, it hasn't worked out, but there's still more to come to complete that assessment. If they hover around .500 for the next 2-3 seasons while Brady continues to play at an elite level elsewhere then irrefutably they would have made a huge mistake.

All those QBs, with the exception of RGIII, had way better weapons in their rookie years than Mac did.

Maybe. Maybe not. According to you, and 90% of this forum, Mac has the greatest head coach of all-time by far, which I'm assuming you think gives Mac a huge advantage. Probably should have finished much better than the 14th ranked passing offense. You know how many times Brady's passing offense in a full season finished better than 14th? 19 out of 19 times. His passing offense never finished worse than 12th and that was with Reche Caldwell in 2006. 14th would be a total embarrassment for Brady.

Contrast that with Mac who had Bourne, Henry, Agholar, and Harris. Mac's rookie year was excellent, especially what he was given to work with. Brady's rookie year was on the bench. He couldn't even beat out Drew Bledsoe.

Thanks to his head coach. Seems like someone should have figured out sooner who was the better quarterback. It took a freak play for Brady to get his chance, which saved Belichick's career. One or two more seasons with Bledsoe as his starter and Belichick would have become a DC lifer.

Spygate may have damaged his legacy, but it also damaged Brady's since Brady was the one getting all the stolen information on his headset. If Bill's first three super bowls are tainted, then so are Brady's. Do you really want to go there?

I've never read even one credible report of Brady benefitting at all from any of the videotaping. Your statement "Brady was the one getting all the stolen information on his headset" is a blatant lie.

 

[sb1]

Spygate may have damaged his legacy, but it also damaged Brady's since Brady was the one getting all the stolen information on his headset. If Bill's first three super bowls are tainted, then so are Brady's. Do you really want to go there?

There's no "may have" about it - Spygate did damage Bill's legacy, that's undeniable. One HOF voter has already said Bill will not get his vote for that reason so there you have it. And I'm sure he won't be the only one.

One of two historical franchise impacting blunders by Bill (the other being benching Butler which not only lost a Super Bowl but seems to have set off the chain of events that led to Brady's departure) and one that really didn't need to happen but he just had to prove he was smarter than everyone else.

It had absolutely nothing to do with Brady.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Maybe. Maybe not. According to you, and 90% of this forum, Mac has the greatest head coach of all-time by far, which I'm assuming you think gives Mac a huge advantage. Probably should have finished much better than the 14th ranked passing offense. You know how many times Brady's passing offense in a full season finished better than 14th? 19 out of 19 times. His passing offense never finished worse than 12th and that was with Reche Caldwell in 2006. 14th would be a total embarrassment for Brady.


Thanks to his head coach. Seems like someone should have figured out sooner who was the better quarterback. It took a freak play for Brady to get his chance, which saved Belichick's career. One or two more seasons with Bledsoe as his starter and Belichick would have become a DC lifer.


I've never read even one credible report of Brady benefitting at all from any of the videotaping. Your statement "Brady was the one getting all the stolen information on his headset" is a blatant lie.

Again, look at Mac's weapons. In an offensive league, weapons are where it begins and ends. And Brady sucked his first year in the pros. In 1999, he was ranked 39th in the nation in 1999 at Michigan in terms of yards thrown, 33rd in yards/attempt, and 31st in TDs, despite starting 11 games. He couldn't even win the starting job in 2000 at Michigan. When he came into the pros, he couldn't win the starting job over Drew because he wasn't very good. He didn't improve until after learning the Patriots system for one year. Mac, on the other hand, picked the system up quickly and led his team to the playoffs as a rookie. Those are the facts.

There's no "may have" about it - Spygate did damage Bill's legacy, that's undeniable. One HOF voter has already said Bill will not get his vote for that reason so there you have it. And I'm sure he won't be the only one.

One of two historical franchise impacting blunders by Bill (the other being benching Butler which not only lost a Super Bowl but seems to have set off the chain of events that led to Brady's departure) and one that really didn't need to happen but he just had to prove he was smarter than everyone else.

It had absolutely nothing to do with Brady.

Brady wasn't responsible for spygate, but he sure as hell benefited from it as did the rest of the team. He was the one getting the info from Charlie Weis over the headset. It's like an olympic relay team winning the gold medal only to find out that one of its members took roids. If Bill is tarnished, then the whole team is tarnished. How many super bowls would Brady (and Bill) have won if it weren't for spygate? The world will never know because Goodell destroyed the tapes and didn't do a proper investigation like he did with deflategate. And you keep harping on SB 52, but you want to ignore Brady's poor performances in SB 42 and 46, which led to those losses. 3, 2,1 before you start blaming the defense...

 

[crawhammer]

Again, look at Mac's weapons. In an offensive league, weapons are where it begins and ends. And Brady sucked his first year in the pros. In 1999, he was ranked 39th in the nation in 1999 at Michigan in terms of yards thrown, 33rd in yards/attempt, and 31st in TDs, despite starting 11 games. He couldn't even win the starting job in 2000 at Michigan. When he came into the pros, he couldn't win the starting job over Drew because he wasn't very good. He didn't improve until after learning the Patriots system for one year. Mac, on the other hand, picked the system up quickly and led his team to the playoffs as a rookie. Those are the facts.

LOL! Those are not the facts.

Brady wasn't competing for the starting job in 2000... the franchise was 1000% committed to Bledsoe. Brady could have completed 100% of his passes for TDs every play in the preseason... he wasn't taking Bledsoe's job.

The "system"... Bledsoe's last 26 starts in the system he had 32 INTs... the system was 7-19 in those 26 starts. The system suddenly went 14-3 and won a Super Bowl with a new quarterback. Bledsoe was killing the team for at least three seasons... the franchise, the krafts and Belichick, completed overrated Bledsoe's importance to the team... so badly in fact that they couldn't recognize he was the main reason they weren't winning. And they signed him to a mega-contract before the 2001 season. The first statue in front of the stadium should be of Mo Lewis.

I really don't want to be dumping on Mac, because I don't think he's bad at all, but ************ you're saying he was quicker to learn the offense and was more successful than Brady at the onset of their careers. Brady won the Super Bowl in his first season as a starter. Mac finished his first season as a starter with a horrible 1-4 record. What the hell happened? How is it he had it all figured out and yet he finished so badly?

Brady wasn't responsible for spygate, but he sure as hell benefited from it as did the rest of the team. He was the one getting the info from Charlie Weis over the headset.

What info are you talking about? So Weis is relaying information gathered from the videotaping directly to Brady as he's calling in the plays? Weis or whomever is watching the videotape in real time, deciphering the signals on the spot, and relaying that information immediately to Brady along with the play call? Are you f*cking insane?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

LOL! Those are not the facts.

Brady wasn't competing for the starting job in 2000... the franchise was 1000% committed to Bledsoe. Brady could have completed 100% of his passes for TDs every play in the preseason... he wasn't taking Bledsoe's job.

The "system"... Bledsoe's last 26 starts in the system he had 32 INTs... the system was 7-19 in those 26 starts. The system suddenly went 14-3 and won a Super Bowl with a new quarterback. Bledsoe was killing the team for at least three seasons... the franchise, the krafts and Belichick, completed overrated Bledsoe's importance to the team... so badly in fact that they couldn't recognize he was the main reason they weren't winning. And they signed him to a mega-contract before the 2001 season. The first statue in front of the stadium should be of Mo Lewis.

I really don't want to be dumping on Mac, because I don't think he's bad at all, but ************ you're saying he was quicker to learn the offense and was more successful than Brady at the onset of their careers. Brady won the Super Bowl in his first season as a starter. Mac finished his first season as a starter with a horrible 1-4 record. What the hell happened? How is it he had it all figured out and yet he finished so badly?


What info are you talking about? So Weis is relaying information gathered from the videotaping directly to Brady as he's calling in the plays? Weis or whomever is watching the videotape in real time, deciphering the signals on the spot, and relaying that information immediately to Brady along with the play call? Are you f*cking insane?

Brady beat out Bledsoe in 2001, even after he came back from injury. If Brady did enough to win the starting job in 2000, Bill wouldn't hesitate to name him the starter. He simply wasn't good enough in 2000. Bledsoe wasn't great that year, but Brady was even worse since he did not win the starting job.

Brady had an entire year to learn the system after 2000. Mac had to learn on the fly and produced admirable results.

What do you think spygate was? It was illegally taping defensive signals. Who do you think ultimately got all that information? The quarterback.

 

[PatsWSB47]

LOL! Those are not the facts.

Brady wasn't competing for the starting job in 2000... the franchise was 1000% committed to Bledsoe. Brady could have completed 100% of his passes for TDs every play in the preseason... he wasn't taking Bledsoe's job.

The "system"... Bledsoe's last 26 starts in the system he had 32 INTs... the system was 7-19 in those 26 starts. The system suddenly went 14-3 and won a Super Bowl with a new quarterback. Bledsoe was killing the team for at least three seasons... the franchise, the krafts and Belichick, completed overrated Bledsoe's importance to the team... so badly in fact that they couldn't recognize he was the main reason they weren't winning. And they signed him to a mega-contract before the 2001 season. The first statue in front of the stadium should be of Mo Lewis.

I really don't want to be dumping on Mac, because I don't think he's bad at all, but ************ you're saying he was quicker to learn the offense and was more successful than Brady at the onset of their careers. Brady won the Super Bowl in his first season as a starter. Mac finished his first season as a starter with a horrible 1-4 record. What the hell happened? How is it he had it all figured out and yet he finished so badly?


What info are you talking about? So Weis is relaying information gathered from the videotaping directly to Brady as he's calling in the plays? Weis or whomever is watching the videotape in real time, deciphering the signals on the spot, and relaying that information immediately to Brady along with the play call? Are you f*cking insane?

Didn't see his post(on ignore, obviously him though) but he's completely evolved into every but hurting anti-Patiots fan we've had to put up with for the past 20 years. I guess he should be congratulated. Of course the motivation isn't anti-Pats, it anti-Brady. Every team steals signs. Every play caller covers there face with the play sheets because they know eyes are on them. Their signals are out in the open in front if 60/70 thousand people live. Bill Cower publicly admitted stealing signs and pointed fingers in general. Jimmy Johnson did as well. Mudd on the Colts was known as the best lip reader in the business. The NFL is spy vs spy. Yet the whiners act like it is something exclusive to the Patriots and Tom Brady is the only possible quarterback that could have had any benefit. I'm sure we'll here the blah, blah, blah with insignificant nuanced rational tob"prove" Brady was all a mirrage. Let's keep canceling Tom Brady. Seems like a worthwhile passion lol.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Didn't see his post(on ignore, obviously him though) but he's completely evolved into every but hurting anti-Patiots fan we've had to put up with for the past 20 years. I guess he should be congratulated. Of course the motivation isn't anti-Pats, it anti-Brady. Every team steals signs. Every play caller covers there face with the play sheets because they know eyes are on them. Their signals are out in the open in front if 60/70 thousand people live. Bill Cower publicly admitted stealing signs and pointed fingers in general. Jimmy Johnson did as well. Mudd on the Colts was known as the best lip reader in the business. The NFL is spy vs spy. Yet the whiners act like it is something exclusive to the Patriots and Tom Brady is the only possible quarterback that could have had any benefit. I'm sure we'll here the blah, blah, blah with insignificant nuanced rational tob"prove" Brady was all a mirrage. Let's keep canceling Tom Brady. Seems like a worthwhile passion lol.

Damn, he's back. The forum was much better off without you posting for the past week.

 

[crawhammer]

Brady beat out Bledsoe in 2001, even after he came back from injury. If Brady did enough to win the starting job in 2000, Bill wouldn't hesitate to name him the starter. He simply wasn't good enough in 2000. Bledsoe wasn't great that year, but Brady was even worse since he did not win the starting job.

Wrong! Brady wasn't beating out Bledsoe in the 2001 preseason either... not after that $100 million 10-year contract for Bledsoe. There was no open competition for the quarterback position in the 2000 or 2001 preseasons. Bledsoe was the starter... period.

You do realize of course that nearly every team in the NFL has a predetermined starting quarterback every season? Like Brian Hoyer has 0% chance of winning the starting job over Mac Jones. Kyle Trask is not competing for the starting job against Tom Brady. Jordan Love is not beating out Aaron Rodgers. So pull your head out of your a**.

Brady had an entire year to learn the system after 2000. Mac had to learn on the fly and produced admirable results.

Admirable results... agreed! Let's not make it more than that... Mac had a very nice season that unfortunately ended rather badly. As a rookie quarterback with a B- supporting cast he preformed admirably.

What do you think spygate was? It was illegally taping defensive signals. Who do you think ultimately got all that information? The quarterback.

It was illegally videotaping offensive and defensive signals... none of which were being decoded on the spot and relayed directly into Brady's headset in the middle of a game.

The Patriots were doing what every team in the NFL does in some form... trying to steal signals for future pre-snap advantages (which isn't the same as your characterization of it occurring in real time). The Patriots got caught because Belichick arrogantly ignored a league wide warning from NFL headquarters to not blatantly videotape from the sideline, etc. Everyone was well aware of the memo/warning. Belichick ignored it. Had he gone about it in a far more discrete manner, like probably everyone else, then it wouldn't have blown up in his face so dramatically. At the end of the day I don't think the Patriots ever did anything that gave them advantages that other teams weren't also acquiring through their own methods of stealing signals.

 

[sb1]

The Patriots got caught because Belichick arrogantly ignored a league wide warning from NFL headquarters to not blatantly videotape from the sideline, etc. Everyone was well aware of the memo/warning. Belichick ignored it.

Specifically Belichick thought he'd be smarter than everyone else and play word games with the memo and the rule to make it "legal". Which obviously the league didn't buy.

Bill's job is head coach not lawyer. Unfortunately the team paid the price both literally and in reputation.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Wrong! Brady wasn't beating out Bledsoe in the 2001 preseason either... not after that $100 million 10-year contract for Bledsoe. There was no open competition for the quarterback position in the 2000 or 2001 preseasons. Bledsoe was the starter... period.

It was illegally videotaping offensive and defensive signals... none of which were being decoded on the spot and relayed directly into Brady's headset in the middle of a game.

The Patriots were doing what every team in the NFL does in some form... trying to steal signals for future pre-snap advantages (which isn't the same as your characterization of it occurring in real time). The Patriots got caught because Belichick arrogantly ignored a league wide warning from NFL headquarters to not blatantly videotape from the sideline, etc. Everyone was well aware of the memo/warning. Belichick ignored it. Had he gone about it in a far more discrete manner, like probably everyone else, then it wouldn't have blown up in his face so dramatically. At the end of the day I don't think the Patriots ever did anything that gave them advantages that other teams weren't also acquiring through their own methods of stealing signals.

I'd suggest you watch the Tuck Rule documentary that recently came out. Brady himself said that if it weren't for that rule he'd be the backup to Bledsoe heading into the 2002 season. In other words, he wasn't very good at the time, all things considered. And in that documentary Belichick stated that Brady made a lot of mistakes early on and learned from them. So he wasn't going to beat out Bledsoe in TC based on his quality of play.

And you're missing the point about spygate. It didn't matter whether the info was used in real time or not. The illegally obtained video tapes were given to Ernie Adams, who studied them, and gave any information he could glean over to the coaching staff. The end result was Charlie Weis relaying signals to Brady in his headset.

It makes no difference whether other teams were doing the same thing. Yes, it was Belichick's system, but the whole team was guilty by association, including Brady. So if you and SB1 are going to knock Belichick for spygate, you have to knock the whole team.

Unfortunately the team paid the price both literally and in reputation.

You can say the same thing about deflategate, which was on Brady.

 

[sb1]

And you're missing the point about spygate. It didn't matter whether the info was used in real time or not. The illegally obtained video tapes were given to Ernie Adams, who studied them, and gave any information he could glean over to the coaching staff. The end result was Charlie Weis relaying signals to Brady in his headset.

They taped both offensive and defensive signals. How much Brady benefited or didn't benefit is irrelevant, this was 100% on Bill deciding to be cute with the rulebook instead of doing his job coaching his team.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

They taped both offensive and defensive signals. How much Brady benefited or didn't benefit is irrelevant, this was 100% on Bill deciding to be cute with the rulebook instead of doing his job coaching his team.

Bill did coach this team....to 6 titles with a 6th round quarterback.

The offensive signals didn't matter as there was coach-to-QB communication over the headset at the time (remember, Flutie said Brady had two frequencies in his headset, one of which got shut off way after the 15 second mark). It was the defensive signals that were at issue. Pats taped the defensive signals of opposing coaches, Walsh/Estrada gave the tape over to Ernie Adams, Ernie deciphered them and told the coaching staff what he saw. Brady may have been innocent in the scandal (just like Bill was innocent in deflategate), but he clearly benefited from it. You'd be a fool to think otherwise.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I wonder whose defense is responsible for this…

 

[crawhammer]

I'd suggest you watch the Tuck Rule documentary that recently came out. Brady himself said that if it weren't for that rule he'd be the backup to Bledsoe heading into the 2002 season. In other words, he wasn't very good at the time, all things considered. And in that documentary Belichick stated that Brady made a lot of mistakes early on and learned from them. So he wasn't going to beat out Bledsoe in TC based on his quality of play.

Still wrong!

I watched the Tuck Rule documentary... Brady and Woodson grabassing for an hour... f'ing waste of my time. Brady makes some flippant comment and you think it's meaningful... please. Brady "wasn't good at the time"... ************ he was the MVP of the Super Bowl. HE turned a bad team (7-19 in their last 26 games) into a dynasty starting with 14-3 and a SB title in his first season. Belichick said "Brady made a lot of mistakes"... what was his assessment of Bledsoe's 32 INTs in his those prior 26 games? Apparently way off the mark considering he signed Bledsoe to a massive 10-year contract. Brady saved Belichick's head coaching career... Brady and Mo Lewis.

And you're missing the point about spygate. It didn't matter whether the info was used in real time or not. The illegally obtained video tapes were given to Ernie Adams, who studied them, and gave any information he could glean over to the coaching staff. The end result was Charlie Weis relaying signals to Brady in his headset.

Brady's receiving a play call. Weis isn't going over Ernie's analysis with Brady. Whatever Weis is basing his play call has a lot more to do with the flow of the actual game in real time. You think there's some lightening quick operation (literally under 30 seconds) whereby Ernie's breaking down videotape, immediately disseminating the information to the coaching staff, who are in turn adjusting their play calling on the spot? Not happening. If any advantage at all, they were picking up tendencies and potentially signals, and applying it toward game-planning for future matchups. Which isn't uncommon. The problem was the blatant violation of NFL policy by videotaping from the sideline right in front of everyone.

(remember, Flutie said Brady had two frequencies in his headset, one of which got shut off way after the 15 second mark)

Never happened. Whatever the CFL QB heard, it wasn't what was being transmitted through Brady's helmet because obviously Brady's helmet was on Brady's head. Get a clue.

It makes no difference whether other teams were doing the same thing. Yes, it was Belichick's system, but the whole team was guilty by association, including Brady. So if you and SB1 are going to knock Belichick for spygate, you have to knock the whole team.

No, I'll stick with blaming Belichick for the entire operation. All involved were merely executing Belichick's plan.

You can say the same thing about deflategate, which was on Brady.

Deflategate was the most pointless circus act in NFL history. Basically Goodell had the authority to draw any conclusions he wanted and impose any discipline he saw fit... that's what the court ultimately decided. Besides that, the league had literally nothing but bizarre text messages from two guys who have apparently fallen into a massive crater to never be seen or heard from again. The NFL to this day can't even give you accurate measurements of the PSI before, during or after the AFCCG... so what the hell are we talking about?

Deflategate is on Goodell and the other morons of the NFL headquarters.

Bill did coach this team....to 6 titles with a 6th round quarterback.

Exactly! All those titles with Brady at quarterback. You're finally catching on.

 

[sb1]

I wonder whose defense is responsible for this…

I know whose defense allowed their playoff opponent to go 7 for 7 in TD drives, a feat that's never been duplicated in league history.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Still wrong!

I watched the Tuck Rule documentary... Brady and Woodson grabassing for an hour... f'ing waste of my time. Brady makes some flippant comment and you think it's meaningful... please. Brady "wasn't good at the time"... ************ he was the MVP of the Super Bowl. HE turned a bad team (7-19 in their last 26 games) into a dynasty starting with 14-3 and a SB title in his first season. Belichick said "Brady made a lot of mistakes"... what was his assessment of Bledsoe's 32 INTs in his those prior 26 games? Apparently way off the mark considering he signed Bledsoe to a massive 10-year contract. Brady saved Belichick's head coaching career... Brady and Mo Lewis.


Brady's receiving a play call. Weis isn't going over Ernie's analysis with Brady. Whatever Weis is basing his play call has a lot more to do with the flow of the actual game in real time. You think there's some lightening quick operation (literally under 30 seconds) whereby Ernie's breaking down videotape, immediately disseminating the information to the coaching staff, who are in turn adjusting their play calling on the spot? Not happening. If any advantage at all, they were picking up tendencies and potentially signals, and applying it toward game-planning for future matchups. Which isn't uncommon. The problem was the blatant violation of NFL policy by videotaping from the sideline right in front of everyone.


Never happened. Whatever the CFL QB heard, it wasn't what was being transmitted through Brady's helmet because obviously Brady's helmet was on Brady's head. Get a clue.


No, I'll stick with blaming Belichick for the entire operation. All involved were merely executing Belichick's plan.


Deflategate was the most pointless circus act in NFL history. Basically Goodell had the authority to draw any conclusions he wanted and impose any discipline he saw fit... that's what the court ultimately decided. Besides that, the league had literally nothing but bizarre text messages from two guys who have apparently fallen into a massive crater to never be seen or heard from again. The NFL to this day can't even give you accurate measurements of the PSI before, during or after the AFCCG... so what the hell are we talking about?

Deflategate is on Goodell and the other morons of the NFL headquarters.


Exactly! All those titles with Brady at quarterback. You're finally catching on.

Brady was dead serious about believing he was going to be the backup to Bledsoe if the tuck rule didn't save him. It wasn't flippant at all.

Obviously Ernie's analysis was done prior to the game and he would have told him what to look out for. Then Weis conveys info over to Brady via the headset.

It's called a backup helmet. You do realize that players have a backup ready in case the original one doesn't work, right? Flutie picked up Brady's backup helmet and heard Weis talking to Brady after the cutoff.

The Deflator disagrees.

The whole team was hurt by spygate and deflategate.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I know whose defense allowed their playoff opponent to go 7 for 7 in TD drives, a feat that's never been duplicated in league history.

I also know who was quarterbacking an offense that couldn't score more than 14 points in the biggest game in NFL history.

Still have no clue why you follow the Patriots when it's obvious you only liked them because of Brady...just weird that you continue to take shots at the current coach and QB.

 

[sb1]

I also know who was quarterbacking an offense that couldn't score more than 14 points in the biggest game in NFL history.

Still have no clue why you follow the Patriots when it's obvious you only liked them because of Brady...just weird that you continue to take shots at the current coach and QB.

I'm not taking shots at anyone. Bill is our coach right now and he's fair game for any criticism. Any fan of any team at any time would do the same.

You pointed out one fact and I pointed out another. It's a fact that Bill's defense allowed 7 TD drives in 7 tries in the playoff game in one of the worst defensive showings of all time. I hope it's a lot better than that this season.

 

[sb1]

Brady was dead serious about believing he was going to be the backup to Bledsoe if the tuck rule didn't save him.

What else was he going to say?

I'm awesome and I'm better than Drew?