Successful BB Midseason Offensive Player Acquisitions?

[jah]

I think we signed Woodhead before week 2, so him.

 

[TheRainMaker]

It was a shame. Total misses on Maroney, Chad Jackson, Dave Thomas+Garrett Mills. Deja vu with Michel, Harry, Keene, hopefully not Asiasi. This is why I was really rooting for the oc to get a hc job, it's too bad other teams didn't pull the trigger. It was incredible how we restocked the roster from 2009-2012 while Denver was going down in flames, but now those mainstays are old or gone, we're back to trying to restock. Getting Mac was huge but the team still has major holes at NT and CB1 on defense, and on offense has a hole at play-caller. if they go 1-4 in the red zone again then the voice volume will increase on the play calling.

Had Jackson been a hit, does Bill trade for Moss and Welker? Stallworth obviously wouldn’t have been signed.

The more underrated draft pick not talked about was Brandon Merriweather. Many draft experts had LB Jon Beason projected to go to NE and I remember local beat writers were pounding the tables for him as well. The Pats were old and slow in the middle and were exposed just months prior in the AGCCG. They signed Thomas, who played inside, but was 31 years old. Colvin gets injured, Thomas goes outside and the MLB’s got exposed again in the Super Bowl with Kevin Boss rumbling for a big gain in the second half setting up a go ahead TD. Beason was taken one pick after Merriweather and had a great career. The argument against Beason not taken was that he was too small for a 3-4. Merriweather had his moments, but was pretty underwhelming overall.

I could argue the 2009 draft was awful.

 

[NashuaPats]

I was thrilled with the 2006 draft. Maroney and Jackson were the two guys I wanted and we got them. I refuse to critique any draft since then.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Had Jackson been a hit, does Bill trade for Moss and Welker? Stallworth obviously wouldn’t have been signed.

The more underrated draft pick not talked about was Brandon Merriweather. Many draft experts had LB Jon Beason projected to go to NE and I remember local beat writers were pounding the tables for him as well. The Pats were old and slow in the middle and were exposed just months prior in the AGCCG. They signed Thomas, who played inside, but was 31 years old. Colvin gets injured, Thomas goes outside and the MLB’s got exposed again in the Super Bowl with Kevin Boss rumbling for a big gain in the second half setting up a go ahead TD. Beason was taken one pick after Merriweather and had a great career. The argument against Beason not taken was that he was too small for a 3-4. Merriweather had his moments, but was pretty underwhelming overall.

I could argue the 2009 draft was awful.

Good thoughts as always.

For 2009, I hear ya. For me, my thought is if you can get 3time champions in Chung and Edelman, that's a good draft but I agree it took some time to get the draft eval stench off the Dumb and Dumber john carroll roommates, and begin to start drafting more foundational guys. In a not big coincidence, Denver immediately nose dived into a ditch from 2009-2011.

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[TheRainMaker]

I was thrilled with the 2006 draft. Maroney and Jackson were the two guys I wanted and we got them. I refuse to critique any draft since then.

I was ecstatic as well. The logic of the picks for me was that the team needed explosive players to keep up with the Colts after losing to them 3 straight times. While D’Angelo Williams was the best prospect after Bush, he had a ton of mileage on him and would’ve been a risk. Maroney was the explosive back with low mileage, but his red flag was lack of competition running through Grand Canyon sized holes.

Greg Jennings was clearly the best WR after Santanio Holmes. However, the knock on him was whether he could separate at the Pro level. Sound familiar?

Enter Chad Jackson, the physical freak who’s stock rose after his 4.3 40 time and being a combine warrior. He also had some video catching everything thrown his way by the jugs machine. The knock on him was boom bust potential and not enough college production. Sounds very similar to DK Metcalf.

Those 2005-09 drafts are arguably the biggest reason for the 10 year drought.

 

[Wozzy]

Nah just feel the Pats would have had even more rings with Brady without several wasted seasons. 10 yr drought then a bare cupboard till recently.

Between 2004-2013 Brady was one of the highest paid players in the NFL… not surprisingly the depth on the rest of the team suffered. How many Super Bowls has Russell Wilson seen since they paid him. None is the answer.

From 2000-2004 Brady was paid like a 6th round rookie, they won three rings. From 2014-2019 Brady took a little less money but the team also borrowed cap space from future years… they kicked cap debt down the road. They played in 4 Super Bowls and won three… something no team had done since the Pats did it a decade earlier. Learn the cap, understand the game.

AB wouldn’t have changed anything in 2019… he would have ended up on the commissioner’s exempt list and they wouldn’t have recouped any money from him in 2020. He literally sat unsigned after being cut because teams were warned if he was signed he would be suspended… so nobody signed him.

And yes Brady lobbied for Sanu. He pouted after AB got cut and passive aggressively liked all his tweets. Sanu got signed and Brady immediately had Jakobi Meyers blackballed until Sanu got hurt returning punts… a job he was ill equipped for but necessary because they gave Gunner the Foxboro flu designation to fit Sanu on the roster. Brady lobbied for both AB and Sanu, that’s why Krafty leaked to the press that Tom signed off on AB. He couldn’t afford the PR hit after his Florida snafu and sure enough it blew up in their faces.

BB drafted Brady, Gronk, Wilfork, Mankins, Thuney and on and on… this take that they would have won more if not for the front office is comical.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The obvious reason why this doesn't happen is because of the complexity of the system. I do think the Gaffney/Dorsett examples are the best ones, outside of some half baked Cliff Polite FB move back in 2011 that didn't really last.

Much easier to plug and play a spot player on D who can have a big impact by giving them a simplified role. He did this beautifully in 2014 and 2016, and teams really don't do this stuff. Part of it is the moronitude in spending to the cap and not leaving some "operating budget" room available and part of it is, it's hard to pull off.

Dorsett was mid-season?

 

[Pape]

Dorsett was mid-season?

nope... phillip dorsett was not a midseason pick up... he was part of the jacoby brisette deal... which happned right before the season started, but after camp...

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Between 2004-2013 Brady was one of the highest paid players in the NFL… not surprisingly the depth on the rest of the team suffered. How many Super Bowls has Russell Wilson seen since they paid him. None is the answer.

From 2000-2004 Brady was paid like a 6th round rookie, they won three rings. From 2014-2019 Brady took a little less money but the team also borrowed cap space from future years… they kicked cap debt down the road. They played in 4 Super Bowls and won three… something no team had done since the Pats did it a decade earlier. Learn the cap, understand the game.

AB wouldn’t have changed anything in 2019… he would have ended up on the commissioner’s exempt list and they wouldn’t have recouped any money from him in 2020. He literally sat unsigned after being cut because teams were warned if he was signed he would be suspended… so nobody signed him.

And yes Brady lobbied for Sanu. He pouted after AB got cut and passive aggressively liked all his tweets. Sanu got signed and Brady immediately had Jakobi Meyers blackballed until Sanu got hurt returning punts… a job he was ill equipped for but necessary because they gave Gunner the Foxboro flu designation to fit Sanu on the roster. Brady lobbied for both AB and Sanu, that’s why Krafty leaked to the press that Tom signed off on AB. He couldn’t afford the PR hit after his Florida snafu and sure enough it blew up in their faces.

BB drafted Brady, Gronk, Wilfork, Mankins, Thuney and on and on… this take that they would have won more if not for the front office is comical.

This is some crazy reality distortion.

Show me any link, any source, that Brady lobbied for Sanu.

The team nose dived after AB was cut.

It must be weird for you to be holding views contrary to reality. I can take a guess at where you get your regular news.

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[catent]

This is some crazy reality distortion.

Show me any link, any source, that Brady lobbied for Sanu.

The team nose dived after AB was cut.

It must be weird for you to be holding views contrary to reality. I can take a guess at where you get your regular news.

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It was reported that Brady internally pushed for Sanu, and when Brady was asked that by a reporter, he said something to the effect of, “I think everyone in the building wanted Mohammad here”.

A quick Google search should turn up a few articles.

I don’t blame Brady for pushing for him. I had high hopes that Sanu could be a savvy, physical slot, similar to Anquan Boldin. Bummer he didn’t work out.

 

[Wozzy]

Lmfao…see a shrink.

When I want your opinion about how football works I'll go right to the source.

 

[Wozzy]

This is some crazy reality distortion.

Show me any link, any source, that Brady lobbied for Sanu.

The team nose dived after AB was cut.

It must be weird for you to be holding views contrary to reality. I can take a guess at where you get your regular news.

I actually watched in 2019 and wasn't being willfully ignorant because Tom is my sacred cow. Sanu arrived immediately after AB shot his way out of town on rape charges and by threatening a single mom and her children. Tom was visibly upset about it both in the media and by pouting on the sideline whenever the offense didn't score.

The team didn't nose dive after AB went full sociopath, the team nose dived because the offensive line had Marshall Newhouse at LT, David Andrews was lost to blood clots, they lost their FB (then his backup), and lastly (mainly) because Tom was dealing with a foot injury before injuring his throwing elbow against KC... and now we know he was also playing with a torn MCL as well... three injuries.

At the end of the year he was hurt and playing with a bunch of WR's he barely practiced with because back in camp he wanted Gordon, Maurice Harris, Dontrelle Inman and Demaryius Thomas in his huddle... vets. At one point near the end of the season it was reported McDaniels was imploring Tom to trust and work with his rookies. But yeah... none of this happened because the fandumb is strong among the zealots.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

When I want your opinion about how football works I'll go right to the source.

Congrats….you jerk off to whatever this is.

 

[Wozzy]

Congrats….you jerk off to whatever this is.

Ask your dad.

For your generation it’s probably One Direction or some Korean pop boy band or TB12.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Ask your dad.

He told me you’re a sex offender.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I actually watched in 2019 and wasn't being willfully ignorant because Tom is my sacred cow. Sanu arrived immediately after AB shot his way out of town on rape charges and by threatening a single mom and her children. Tom was visibly upset about it both in the media and by pouting on the sideline whenever the offense didn't score.

The team didn't nose dive after AB went full sociopath, the team nose dived because the offensive line had Marshall Newhouse at LT, David Andrews was lost to blood clots, they lost their FB, and lastly (mainly) because Tom was dealing with a foot injury before injuring his throwing elbow against KC... and now we know he was also playing with a torn MCL as well... three injuries.

At the end of the year he was hurt and playing with a bunch of WR's he barely practiced with because back in camp he wanted Gordon, Maurice Harris, Dontrelle Inman and Demaryius Thomas in his huddle... vets. At one point near the end of the season it was reported McDaniels was imploring Tom to trust and work with his rookies. But yeah... none of this happened because the fandumb is strong among the zealots.

A ton of excuses. The team was 8-0 and nose dived the second half of the year. Multiple papers list the Sanu trade as the worst ever for BB. Nice going by roommates from john carroll. the oc has been exposed 3 different seasons without Brady carrying him on his back.

 

[Wozzy]

He told me you’re a sex offender.

Like many things you say on here he’s wrong.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Like many things you say on here he’s wrong.

Looks like he got this one right.

 

[Wozzy]

A ton of excuses. The team was 8-0 and nose dived the second half of the year. Multiple papers list the Sanu trade as the worst ever for BB. Nice going by roommates from john carroll. the oc has been exposed 3 different seasons without Brady carrying him on his back.

Excuses… all this played out in real-time.

You sticking your head in the sand because it paints a picture of Tom that’s thoroughly human is the only reimagining happening here.

It’s only dwarfed by you trying to twist the history of how AB blew up his opportunity here and how he’s actually a misunderstood nice guy… good grief.

 

[‘Mondre]

Mayo and Slater in 08, gost in 06, to look at the bright side ‍