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Interesting comp for N'Keal Harry


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Is it me or has the duchebaggery in here gotten worse recently? Why can't people just make a point without being a giant @$$hole?

Let's ask him.....

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After reading the umpteenth post on how BB made a mistake by drafting Harry, with the underlying theme that he does not know how to draft, once again I will reserve judgement until December if there is an NFL season this year..

Some draftniks disagree with this pick, but being on IR and the reports of Brady not throwing during practices during the latter part of last season may have effected their timing and Harry's progress.

No intent to place blame, but still have to wait and see how this all develops this year...
 
Wrongo...a better comparison is Donald Hayes...anyone remember him? VERY SIMILAR rookie stats, particularly games played, catch %...Hayes went on to a mediocre AT BEST NFL career....and that's being generous. Harry is headed for Hart Lee Dykes + Donald Hayes = NKeal Harry

I also remember Hayes' college career:
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Spare us with your inane posts. It is is clear that you never watched Harry play in college.
 
The scouting reports regarding Harry are unfortunately coming true.

"Team sources call Harry not real twitchy or explosive. They worry about how he is not fast in and out of breaks and don't see suddenness. Some sources said that Harry reminded them of Ole Miss wideout Laquon Treadwell, who is currently headed toward bust status for the Vikings. Some other sources say they are grading Harry on the second day of the 2019 NFL Draft. One team source said they originally planned on grading Harry in Round 2, but were lowering him to the third round."


In comparison read Deebo Samuels scouting report


"As a receiver, Samuel is impressive. His speed and play-making skills with the ball in his hands eclipse that he is a really talented wideout. He runs good routes and consistently uses his speed to achieve separation. Samuel is very dangerous on quick slants and running go routes down the sideline. Samuel is very adept at tracking the ball in the air and plays it well. He high points the ball and times his hands nicely to make catches over defensive backs. Samuel has soft hands and catches the ball with his hands naturally. He is also an aggressive receiver who isn't afraid of contact.

What really sets Samuel apart is how dangerous he is with the ball in his hands. He has excellent vision to weave around defenders and can use his speed to rip off yards in chunks. He has quick feet along with the cutting ability to stop-start or stutter step, and a strong frame to run through arm tackles. When the ball hits Samuel on the run, he is a big problem for defenders because he is tough to grab in the open field with his shifty moves. Samuel has enough speed to run away from defenders and take a catch the distance. Samuel is superb on screens and jet sweeps to race through the defense.

Samuel looks very versatile for the NFL. He could line up as an outside receiver and play the X - split end - to challenge teams vertically. Samuel also is dangerous out of the slot and could be a tough receiver to defend on underneath routes. With his size and speed, Samuel also could take some carries out of the backfield. On top of his offensive skills, Samuel is a dynamic returner who should contribute on special teams. In the 2019 NFL Draft, Samuel has a slim chance of being picked in the back half of the first round and probably will not get out of the second round if he makes it to Friday night."


Also AJ Browns scouting report


“Slot bully with rare combination of brawn and quickness that allows him to separate with both power and foot quickness. Brown has the size and demeanor to take on a relatively heavy workload as a safety blanket for a young quarterback in a ball-control passing attack. He'll see an upgrade in athlete across from him, but he has the feet and body control to uncover and create windows as a premium route-runner.”

Seems like a much better option for both Brady and a young QB like Stidham. Brown also out produced Harry numbers wise against much stiffer competition


If they wanted to draft a project, should have gone with DK Metcalf. Bigger, faster with more upside than Harry. We even took Jojuan Williams over Metcalf.

I can cherry-pick too....
Why Patriots’ N’Keal Harry is my favorite wide receiver in the NFL Draft - SBNation.com
 
Ask NG if there has ever been a BB draft pick he really liked.

You will get silence.

That's all you need to know.
NG Patsfan is a troll. A lonely loser. He does not want anyone to feel good about anything here so he pollutes every thread with the same garbage . He should be banned
 
Are we pretending Mike Williams is a high-end NFL WR?

You can watch N'Keal Harry play, and he simply looks helplessly slow. It doesn't ever appear he has the slightest chance of beating his defender.

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Can you guess which numbers are Mike Evans' and which are Harry's?

Answer: It doesn't f*cking matter, because they are virtually the same. Tell me again why speed is the only determinant of success in the NFL?

SMFH at posters who are already giving up on Harry after a rookie year that was torpedoed by training camp injuries, as well as playing with a rookie-hating QB with waning accuracy and one foot mentally out the door. This kid has been treated like sh*t by too many supposed Pats fans, who should be rooting for him to bounce back and show what he can do after a disappointing (for him too) first year, instead of unfairly labeling him a bust after 7 late season games with limited snaps.
 
After reading the umpteenth post on how BB made a mistake by drafting Harry, with the underlying theme that he does not know how to draft, once again I will reserve judgement until December if there is an NFL season this year..

Some draftniks disagree with this pick, but being on IR and the reports of Brady not throwing during practices during the latter part of last season may have effected their timing and Harry's progress.

No intent to place blame, but still have to wait and see how this all develops this year...

Oh, look, another poster willing to give the guy a shot. As I live and breathe . . . ;)
 
SMFH at posters who are already giving up on Harry This kid has been treated like sh*t by too many supposed Pats fans, who should be rooting for him to bounce back and show what he can do
Winners root for other people to succeed . Losers want to see others fail like they did. It’s pretty obvious who the forum losers are. The fact that these losers won’t even defend themselves when called out about it shows that they are spineless cowards as well.
 
Looking back, there is zero justification for drafting Harry over AJ Brown. Brown outproduced him against stiffer competition, was more pro ready, was less of a risk, AND has the higher upside. Brown had no major red flags while Harry had one big one..lack of ability to separate. Metcalf was a project and big risk with monster upside, and Samuel produced about the same but had higher upside than Harry. I can understand Harry selected over those two but not AJ Brown.

A. J. Brown got almost no separation in any of the three playoff games the Titans played. He had 5 catches for 64 yards in three games. Let’s not act like he’s Antonio Brown quite yet.
 
apparently you didn’t read my post. I brought up AJ Brown and said “Brown outproduced Harry in college against much stiffer competition”. That answers that.

I also said “less upside than those other WRs”. I think the scouting reports regarding Samuel, Metcalf, and Brown clearly show they have higher upside than Harry. That scouting report I posted of Harry is backed up by almost every major scouting website

try again thee wise one
Brown college stats 189/2984/19
Harry college stats. 213/2889/22
 
It's the underwear brigade..........they were supposed to leave with Brady

they did not leave with Brady

Next season will shake a lot of dingleberries out. But they will return the moment the Pats are in the playoffs........shameless rump swabbers
 
I've seen some Laquon Treadwell comparisons. Comparing N'Keal to Laquon Treadwell isn't really adequate since N'Keal is a much better athlete.

N'Keal: 4.53, 27 reps, 38.5 vert
Laquon: 4.63, 12 reps, 33 vert
Hopkins: 4.57, 15 reps, 36 vert

AJ Brown: 4.49, 19, 36.5 vert

Athleticism is not a problem for N'Keal. He needs to work on technique more than anything.
 
They have a good search function. You can easily get all of his plays which will play one after the other. Check it out. I think you'll like it.
Yeah I’m going to check out the coaches film on him today, specifically from that game. As I didn’t get an answer, I’m assuming that he had some preconceived notion that was happening and, instead of searching out the truth, just stuck with it.
 
The scouting reports regarding Harry are unfortunately coming true.

"Team sources call Harry not real twitchy or explosive. They worry about how he is not fast in and out of breaks and don't see suddenness. Some sources said that Harry reminded them of Ole Miss wideout Laquon Treadwell, who is currently headed toward bust status for the Vikings. Some other sources say they are grading Harry on the second day of the 2019 NFL Draft. One team source said they originally planned on grading Harry in Round 2, but were lowering him to the third round."


In comparison read Deebo Samuels scouting report


"As a receiver, Samuel is impressive. His speed and play-making skills with the ball in his hands eclipse that he is a really talented wideout. He runs good routes and consistently uses his speed to achieve separation. Samuel is very dangerous on quick slants and running go routes down the sideline. Samuel is very adept at tracking the ball in the air and plays it well. He high points the ball and times his hands nicely to make catches over defensive backs. Samuel has soft hands and catches the ball with his hands naturally. He is also an aggressive receiver who isn't afraid of contact.

What really sets Samuel apart is how dangerous he is with the ball in his hands. He has excellent vision to weave around defenders and can use his speed to rip off yards in chunks. He has quick feet along with the cutting ability to stop-start or stutter step, and a strong frame to run through arm tackles. When the ball hits Samuel on the run, he is a big problem for defenders because he is tough to grab in the open field with his shifty moves. Samuel has enough speed to run away from defenders and take a catch the distance. Samuel is superb on screens and jet sweeps to race through the defense.

Samuel looks very versatile for the NFL. He could line up as an outside receiver and play the X - split end - to challenge teams vertically. Samuel also is dangerous out of the slot and could be a tough receiver to defend on underneath routes. With his size and speed, Samuel also could take some carries out of the backfield. On top of his offensive skills, Samuel is a dynamic returner who should contribute on special teams. In the 2019 NFL Draft, Samuel has a slim chance of being picked in the back half of the first round and probably will not get out of the second round if he makes it to Friday night."


Also AJ Browns scouting report


“Slot bully with rare combination of brawn and quickness that allows him to separate with both power and foot quickness. Brown has the size and demeanor to take on a relatively heavy workload as a safety blanket for a young quarterback in a ball-control passing attack. He'll see an upgrade in athlete across from him, but he has the feet and body control to uncover and create windows as a premium route-runner.”

Seems like a much better option for both Brady and a young QB like Stidham. Brown also out produced Harry numbers wise against much stiffer competition


If they wanted to draft a project, should have gone with DK Metcalf. Bigger, faster with more upside than Harry. We even took Jojuan Williams over Metcalf.


DEBO's FIRST 7 GAMES AS A PRO
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DEBO'S "ELITE" PLAYOFF STATS
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AJ's FIRST 7 GAMES AS A PRO
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(two long catches, otherwise pffft)

AJ's "ELITE" PLAYOFF STATS
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As for Metcalf:
1. 30+ teams and many smart and experienced personnel guys passed over him not once, but twice.
2. He was a terrible fit for their system, and their quarterback. Does this look like a WR who would excel in the Pats' offense?

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Ask NG if there has ever been a BB draft pick he really liked.

You will get silence.

That's all you need to know.

When you point out the success of the NEP, there is silence or it is solely because of #12...

Never got the disdain for BB even though he brought this team to the SB 9 times in 20 years... that is unparalled.. then there are the 19 consecutive winning seasons in the post salary cap era.. someone is doing something right.

But there are those who choose to dwell on the mistakes that only BB makes in the NFL.
 
I rewatched Harry's plays last year. He looked pretty good to me. He looks fast, strong, and can catch. People need to get over themselves with this guy.
Agree, he can break tackles, has good field vision, and an excellent catch radius. He also runs well tho he is not super fast, he doesn't need to be.
 




It somehow only took Hoyer one series to get Harry involved. Trust your young WR to make a play and play to his strengths....what a concept.

(It is a shame in retrospect that he got up and tried to keep the play going on his second catch, because his he appeared to get injured/re-injured on that awkward tackle).
 
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