article: Pats and Bengals only teams to not draft a Pro Bowler the last 6 years

[DropKickFlutie]

Patriots haven’t drafted a future Pro Bowler since Jamie Collins in 2013 - ProFootballTalk

Not great company.

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[farn]

Non-Pro Bowlers who were drafted since 2014 who played signifiant role in winning a SB for NE :
2014 : James White & Bryan Stork
2015 : Trey Flowers, Shaq Mason, Joe Cardona
2016 : Thuney, Malcolm Mitchell
2018 : Sony Michel

Fun Pro Bowlers in the 2000s :
2007 Marion Barber
2005 Cato June
2004 Rudi Johnson
2000 Elvis Grbac
2006 AND 2008 Vince Young (!)
2008 (and 1996) Kerry Collins
2007 Derek Anderson

Long story short : Super Bowl > Pro Bowl

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Patriots haven’t drafted a future Pro Bowler since Jamie Collins in 2013 - ProFootballTalk

Not great company.

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Or if your the bengals it’s great company to be in.

 

[oldrover]

Patriots haven’t drafted a future Pro Bowler since Jamie Collins in 2013 - ProFootballTalk

Not great company.

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3 Super Bowl wins since 2013.

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[TBR]

Just about every team has a player or two, or three, who you could argue should be Pro Bowlers. This doesn't exclusively affect the Pats, so citing guys like James White or Trey Flowers is fairly meaningless.

The Pats won their recent SuperBowls thanks to Brady, Belichick and some nice signings/trades that made up for their poor drafting.

 

[FCB02062]

Tim Brady covered up for alot of Bill's bad drafting... Let's see what happens this season... I'm thinking 7-9 at best

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Having a lot of real good players who are not pro bowlers isnt a bad thing.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

3 Super Bowl wins since 2013.

Drafts from earlier in the decade were excellent, as that core group of players went the distance.

 

[primetime]

They drafted an All Pro though, so I guess this is more a sign that the Pro Bowl is dumb... (and another PFF All Pro)

And like the best receiving back in football besides McCaffrey? And Trey Flowers?

I mean, they haven't found a Rob Gronkowski in a while but let's not go overboard.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I do think the Pats benefitted from the longevity of some real studs for almost a decade+ like McCourty, Hightower, Chung, Gronk, Edelman, Shaq, even Cannon has became a core guy. Not to mention Brady too

 

[XLIX]

Non-Pro Bowlers who were drafted since 2014 who played signifiant role in winning a SB for NE :
2014 : James White & Bryan Stork
2015 : Trey Flowers, Shaq Mason, Joe Cardona
2016 : Thuney, Malcolm Mitchell
2018 : Sony Michel

Fun Pro Bowlers in the 2000s :
2007 Marion Barber
2005 Cato June
2004 Rudi Johnson
2000 Elvis Grbac
2006 AND 2008 Vince Young (!)
2008 (and 1996) Kerry Collins
2007 Derek Anderson

Long story short : Super Bowl > Pro Bowl

3 Super Bowl wins since 2013.

Yes, I get it. Super Bowls are better than pro bowls and the Patriots had a great core that was here for years. But don’t fool yourselves: it isn’t like Belichick spent the past 6 years saying “we already have a Super Bowl contender so there’s no need to draft good players.”

It’s not a good thing that NE’s drafting is at/near the bottom of the League for such a long period of time. And it bodes very poorly for the next few years.

 

[primetime]

Gronk retired before his 30th birthday. I'm not going to pretend the Patriots have drafted well recently but you hit on a Hall of Fame skill guy - and all you need is one to make up for a lot of misses - and usually you expect them to play at a high level well into their 30s. Travis Kelce is a mere 5 months younger than Gronk but nobody's criticizing the Chiefs for failing to have his replacement ready.

 

[primetime]

I think what really matters is blue chip hits, and then ranked in order of position value. Quarterback miles ahead of everyone.

The Patriots have drafted two blue chip guards and a blue chip running back, plus one very good pass rusher. Top guards and role playing backs make good teams great but don't make average teams good; they're just not that valuable. So the Patriots have successfully identified good players in the time period, and all of them played meaningful roles in Super Bowls, but only because the team had blue chippers from previous eras (and free agency, esp at corner) to help.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

FWIW, to be a Pro Bowler, you have to:

• Be one of the initial vote winners, or
• Actually attend the Pro Bowl.

If you're invited as a replacement, but decline, you're not a Pro Bowler.

The same holds if you're invited but can't go because you're playing in the Super Bowl.

And, as someone quipped on Twitter, the Patriots are one of one teams to play in four Super Bowls in the last six years.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Not a surprise, they’ve had terrible drafts since 2014.

 

[borg]

Bill did draft a a thunder-legged punter who has a shot at a pro bowl in the new decade....
so hope is abound

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Not true, the Pats selected Kamu Grugier-Hill in the 2016 draft and he has made the Pro Bowl.*

*Well maybe not, but he has had a better career than most of the guys BB cut him for.

 

[archstanton543]

Travis Kelce is a mere 5 months younger than Gronk but nobody's criticizing the Chiefs for failing to have his replacement ready.

Those are two different people with different injury histories. Other than being elite TE talent, there's not much to compare the two. Gronk was clearly slowing down the last two years before he retired. The Pats knew the end was coming with Gronk sooner rather than later, did nothing other than bring in some veteran warm bodies to try to replace him and failed.

Comparing Kelce and Gonk pure on their age, skill level and position ignores way too many variables.

 

[PP2]

Patriots haven’t drafted a future Pro Bowler since Jamie Collins in 2013 - ProFootballTalk

Not great company.

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Oh sorry, I thought the goal was to go to the superbowl, not the pro bowl.

 

[everlong]

Thuney should have been a pro bowler the last two seasons. A guy who took Aaron Donald one on one a bunch of times in the SB and was a 2nd team all pro this year but he doesn't get a Pro Bowl nod.

There's definitely a bias against the Patrtiots for PB voting but whatever I'll take all the SBs.