Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[Joker]

Perspective...please. It COULD be worse....humanity could disappear because of a dyam game show...think about it!

 

[Tony2046]

You guys can Tom Hanks pls not die from this? I love that guy.

I still blame him for Wilson's death.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

There is one positive in this shocking development. The lakers won't be able to tie the Celtics for most NBA titles. And the queen will be another year older. Always look on the bright side.

The odds of Roger Goodell dying from the Coronavirus improve each day. That’s as bright as it gets.

 

[Tony2046]

I'm not too concerned about my immediate family's health as most are in the low risk age group. But I have two elderly neighbors that live right across the street from my kids that I'm really worried about. Best people in our town. If they pass from this I hope @Jangles buys up their property so that I can take shyt on his doorstep every morning. **** that dude.

 

[rochrist]

Calling the 19 comparison to the influenza epidemic the early part of the last century unsubstantiated and dramatic is "not listening"?
Feb 28 South Korea, who is doing significant testing, had 800+ positive results. Today they had 114. A downward trend that has only been broken once in 14 days. China, with 1/5th of the globe's population, has been seeing rates decline for over a week.
OTOH, the influenza epidemic killed 50 to 100 million people. Up to 5% of the global population was killed.
While I absolutely agree that this outbreak is not to be dismissed due to the unknown (people, this is most certainly not to be dismissed, there's too much unknown right now to dismiss it). But taking these numbers so far then extrapolating them out to compare to the last century's flu outbreak, then acting as if that is anywhere remotely close to fact is hysterics helping to spread what may very well be needless misery..

A) I never compared it to the Spanish Flu pandemic. B) I'm not sure what 'listening' word your quoting since I never said anything using that word. C) I listened to an infectious disease expert today who said it was quite possible there will be 75-100 million infections when all is said and done.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

So you didn’t read it? The word unknown shows up 0 times and the phrase not known shows up once regarding virus load on an inanimate surface.

If you reference Table 1, you will see that at room temperature many strains persist for days, even at 40*C some strains persist for up to 96 hours.

Hope is not a plan. Neither is avoiding reality due to stressfulness of a situation. I am not advocating anyone panic, however let’s work with a full set of facts to get the best information possible while evaluating how to handle this event.

Panic is not a solution. Be diligent to wash your hands constantly, be mindful not to touch your face, etc. Plan to deal with the worst case scenario and work your hardest to avoid that being a reality.

??? I didn't read the pdf, I read the tables and table descriptions.

"Most data were described with the endemic human coronavirus strain (HCoV-) 229E. On different types of materials it can remain infectious for from 2 hours up to 9 days. A higher temperature such as 30°C or 40°C reduced the duration of persistence of highly pathogenic MERS-CoV, TGEV and MHV. However, at 4°C persistence of TGEV and MHV can be increased to ≥ 28 days. Few comparative data obtained with SARS-CoV indicate that persistence was longer with higher inocula (Table I). In addition it was shown at room temperature that HCoV-229E persists better at 50% compared to 30% relative humidity [8]"

Correct, hope is not a plan. Of course how you read my post as 'hope is a plan' is ???. What I was saying/doing was providing information that contradicts your absolute statement(not your "I suspect" or "probably") that it's not going away and it's going to get worse (you're only entertaining the idea, through other responses, that this is the flu pandemic).
You want to think that is fact, portray on BB as fact, or simply want to believe it is? Have at it but you know, and I know, you don't know it as fact, not even close. It's your opinion, period, So why not throw in a qualifier stating it as opinion and help stop potential panic? Why not throw in "though I could be wrong and it could start lessening sooner rather than later"?

Fyi, looking at information that suggests it may not be this nightmare scenario you believe it will be (and hopefully you're wrong, hopefully it won't be), your table does not say hot temps does not diminish the 19. The myriad of things people would touch in significantly above room temperatures outside, in non AC, in high temp AC settings. This slows down the virus spread. Fyi, again, that's not the plan, that's data to suggest spread will decrease. That's a good thing don't you think? But because this is new to humans we have unknowns that require prudence and even vigilance. Again, you want to go a different direction with all of this, have at it. Expect to be called on stating things as facts when they are clearly not. That's not so bad either is it?

 

[Tony2046]

A) I never compared it to the Spanish Flu pandemic. B) I'm not sure what 'listening' word your quoting since I never said anything using that word. C) I listened to an infectious disease expert today who said it was quite possible there will be 75-100 million infections when all is said and done.

It's strange to watch how the world reacts imo. It seems some people only care when it effects them personally. Some prepare to prevent it from affecting them personally. And then there's the 0.1% shytheads that prepare to profit from this.

This virus may or may not be the"big one" but the way we react to it matters regardless. Because if we can't handle the false alarm we definitely won't be able to handle the real deal.

 

[Tony2046]

??? I didn't read the pdf, I read the tables and table descriptions.

"Most data were described with the endemic human coronavirus strain (HCoV-) 229E. On different types of materials it can remain infectious for from 2 hours up to 9 days. A higher temperature such as 30°C or 40°C reduced the duration of persistence of highly pathogenic MERS-CoV, TGEV and MHV. However, at 4°C persistence of TGEV and MHV can be increased to ≥ 28 days. Few comparative data obtained with SARS-CoV indicate that persistence was longer with higher inocula (Table I). In addition it was shown at room temperature that HCoV-229E persists better at 50% compared to 30% relative humidity [8]"

Correct, hope is not a plan. Of course how you read my post as 'hope is a plan' is ???. What I was saying/doing was providing information that contradicts your absolute statement(not your "I suspect" or "probably") that it's not going away and it's going to get worse (you're only entertaining the idea, through other responses, that this is the flu pandemic).
You want to think that is fact, portray on BB as fact, or simply want to believe it is? Have at it but you know, and I know, you don't know it as fact, not even close. It's your opinion, period, So why not throw in a qualifier stating it as opinion and help stop potential panic? Why not throw in "though I could be wrong and it could start lessening sooner rather than later"?

Fyi, looking at information that suggests it may not be this nightmare scenario you believe it will be (and hopefully you're wrong, hopefully it won't be), your table does not say hot temps does not diminish the 19. The myriad of things people would touch in significantly above room temperatures outside, in non AC, in high temp AC settings. This slows down the virus spread. Fyi, again, that's not the plan, that's data to suggest spread will decrease. That's a good thing don't you think? But because this is new to humans we have unknowns that require prudence and even vigilance. Again, you want to go a different direction with all of this, have at it. Expect to be called on stating things as facts when they are clearly not. That's not so bad either is it?

FYI: I find these arguments between you and @Adam Seward highly useful. Both of you are obviously intelligent and offer great input. So thanks for that.

 

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[TheBostonStraggler]

A) I never compared it to the Spanish Flu pandemic. B) I'm not sure what 'listening' word your quoting since I never said anything using that word. C) I listened to an infectious disease expert today who said it was quite possible there will be 75-100 million infections when all is said and done.

Actually you did. A poster said the comparison to last early century's flu pandemic was over reactionary. You're response was:
"So you clearly aren't paying any attention at all at how fast those case numbers of rising. Yesterday, there were four thousand new cases. Today there were nearly eight thousand. Can you do the math? (keep in mind that they aren't even testing in this country)"

To me that reads as a comparison. You are saying numbers extrapolated contradict 'this isn't the flu pandemic'.
Correct, and apologies, for saying "listening", I meant "paying attention".
Suggestion, and only a suggestion, stop assuming experts that are forecasting a most terrible outcome must be right. At least state it with "maybe", "I suspect", "it's possible". Fear sells/gets clicks so this will be used more often for any entity that's profit is based on clicks. Experts do predict disaster and have been wrong, no?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Self-Reported Deaths By Country

Britain: 0
China: 0
Italy: 0
South Korea: 0
United States: 0

Source: WHO Coronavirus Facts


I knew this was another media frenzied hoax.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

 

[RobertWeathers]

This sucks.

I'd imagine the only thing worse than having the coronavirus is being married to a germaphobe.

Anybody know a good divorce attorney? Asking for a friend.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Run away from Forest Gump

Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson diagnosed with coronavirus - CNN

 

[Clonamery]

Well I guess that’s that then

more property and job openings than I’d previously thought

Go back to your bomb shelter and let everyone else care about the living and the dead.

 

[Triumph]

Stay out of massage parlors and day spas If you see bamboo growing in the lobby.

 

[IllegalContact]

Rudy Golbert may have affected a lot of people...

probably not as many as the 3 TSA workers in San Jose that came up positive

 

[IllegalContact]

You're welcome - and that's about all I have to say on it. It's all fine and dandy when everything's going well, but when the **** hits the fan, well, that's when all the things we took for granted are shoved in our faces.

We have an incompetent, rather stupid boob in the White House. He had no idea of what he's doing, other than when he's using the power of his office to enrich himself or his spawn. Anyone wondering why the UK wasn't included in his not-really-a-ban ban? Trump has golf courses there.

He fired the pandemic response team two years ago. He's cut the CDC budget repeatedly, forcing them to remove teams in places, including China, where we were worried. Trump's answer? "We can hire them back if we need them."

Yeah, no.

Jared Kushner will decide the course of action

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Game over man. Tom Hanks has covid-19

 

[RobertWeathers]

Stay out of massage parlors and day spas If you see bamboo growing in the lobby.

Early Bird Bob will go thru withdrawl