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The pope put Galileo’s feet in the fire and he started dancing to the tune being played in rome
 
I’m just focused on 224. If we as fans overlook that, somehow it’ll cost them the game.
Got that against Houston, he’s at 226 now.
 
50 years from now Roger Goodell III (some call him "Lil Rog") will increase the regular season to 162 games, and all these stats will fly out the window.

Nah...TB12 is "our" Gretzky
 
Brady has shattered a lot of records. I’d like to put some graphs up of just how dominant he is in many statistical categories. Examples are in the Super Bowl era his winning percentage is .777 in the regular season, while Joe Montana is second at .714. The difference between those two are simply astronomical and one of the biggest outlier stats in sports history. He has 27 playoff wins while Montana is second at 16. He has the potential to retire with TWICE as many playoff wins as the second place guy in the SB era. He has won 8 conference titles (Elway is second with 5) and five Super Bowls (in case you weren’t aware.). He is so far away in cumulative postseason and Super Bowl passing stats it’s almost difficult to fathom. He’s just about doubled everyone in playoff and SB yards and touchdowns.

One stat that is remarkable is his total wins. Brady always take pride in being available and winning, the two things he constantly talks about when talking about what it takes to be successful. So, I think while he doesn’t care much about passing TDs and passing yards, etc., I’m sure that winning games means a lot to him. And total wins combines longevity and excellence. So here it is...

Tom Brady has a chance (greater than Lloyd Christmas) of winning 300 games.

Why is this absolutely nuts?
That accomplishment may actually be the most draw-dropping in the history of American sports. Coming into this season, the quarterback win total (regular and postseason) went like this:

1. Brady - 223
2. Manning - 200
3. Favre - 199
4. Elway - 162
5. Marino - 155
(For active players, Brees and Roethlisberger were right around 150.)

Just how absurd would a 300 win career be?
Brett Favre is the only quarterback to even start 300 games (322)
Peyton Manning only started 292 games.
He would literally have 100 more wins than Manning (second most.)

How realistic is it for Brady to reach this seemingly insane number of 300 wins?
It probably seems unrealistic and overly optimistic, especially at first glance. Brady could obviously get injured or decline, especially at the age of 41 and continuing to move up in age. But let’s just say, for the sake of fantasy (delusion?) that Brady maintains his same success and plays through his age 45 season. That’s 5 seasons (41, 42, 43, 44, 45.)

Over his career, he has a regular season winning percentage of .777, which averages to about 12.5 wins over 16 games. He is averaging just about 1.5 playoff wins in years where he’s finished the season.

That’s an average of 14 wins a season.

Over the next five years, at this pace, and with some health luck and the TB12 magic, he would be projected to win 70 games (14 x 5.)

At 223 coming into this season, the additional 70 puts him at 293 after his age 45 season. If all goes according to past results he’s at 293, and if he’s still playing well, he may have trouble walking away being so close.

Be easier if we go 17-2 each of his final seasons..
 
Brady has shattered a lot of records. I’d like to put some graphs up of just how dominant he is in many statistical categories. Examples are in the Super Bowl era his winning percentage is .777 in the regular season, while Joe Montana is second at .714. The difference between those two are simply astronomical and one of the biggest outlier stats in sports history. He has 27 playoff wins while Montana is second at 16. He has the potential to retire with TWICE as many playoff wins as the second place guy in the SB era. He has won 8 conference titles (Elway is second with 5) and five Super Bowls (in case you weren’t aware.). He is so far away in cumulative postseason and Super Bowl passing stats it’s almost difficult to fathom. He’s just about doubled everyone in playoff and SB yards and touchdowns.

One stat that is remarkable is his total wins. Brady always take pride in being available and winning, the two things he constantly talks about when talking about what it takes to be successful. So, I think while he doesn’t care much about passing TDs and passing yards, etc., I’m sure that winning games means a lot to him. And total wins combines longevity and excellence. So here it is...

Tom Brady has a chance (greater than Lloyd Christmas) of winning 300 games.

Why is this absolutely nuts?
That accomplishment may actually be the most draw-dropping in the history of American sports. Coming into this season, the quarterback win total (regular and postseason) went like this:

1. Brady - 223
2. Manning - 200
3. Favre - 199
4. Elway - 162
5. Marino - 155
(For active players, Brees and Roethlisberger were right around 150.)

Just how absurd would a 300 win career be?
Brett Favre is the only quarterback to even start 300 games (322)
Peyton Manning only started 292 games.
He would literally have 100 more wins than Manning (second most.)

How realistic is it for Brady to reach this seemingly insane number of 300 wins?
It probably seems unrealistic and overly optimistic, especially at first glance. Brady could obviously get injured or decline, especially at the age of 41 and continuing to move up in age. But let’s just say, for the sake of fantasy (delusion?) that Brady maintains his same success and plays through his age 45 season. That’s 5 seasons (41, 42, 43, 44, 45.)

Over his career, he has a regular season winning percentage of .777, which averages to about 12.5 wins over 16 games. He is averaging just about 1.5 playoff wins in years where he’s finished the season.

That’s an average of 14 wins a season.

Over the next five years, at this pace, and with some health luck and the TB12 magic, he would be projected to win 70 games (14 x 5.)

At 223 coming into this season, the additional 70 puts him at 293 after his age 45 season. If all goes according to past results he’s at 293, and if he’s still playing well, he may have trouble walking away being so close.

If he plays long enough to do it he will have all the other QB records by a mile too. (Though I can see Drew Brees stubbornly piling up yards for as long as he can, even if he is not winning)
 
If he plays long enough to do it he will have all the other QB records by a mile too. (Though I can see Drew Brees stubbornly piling up yards for as long as he can, even if he is not winning)

When it comes to meaningless or garbage time stats, Drew Brees has a Gretzky-esque lead over #2.
 
With all due respect (and I fully acknowledge the greatness of Orr), WG is greater. A +/- cannot tell the whole story.

I agree with posters stating only 99 can compare to Brady in terms of ridiculous stats.

Bill Russell blows both of them COMBINED out of the water.

How about the screwball that I saw last week who wanted to take Russell off of Mt Rushmore but leave Bird?

It's too bad that you youngsters didn't get to see Russell play. You missed something special.

Carry on.
 
I never bet more than a beer or a buck on anything, but I'd bet almost any amount that two of us could afford to leave with a trusted third party to hold that TB, as great as he is, won't reach 300 Regular and Post Season wins.

But, I do like the emphasis on "Wins" as the ultimate measure. With the new Rules protecting QB's and receivers, every passing record that is set will be just another "record meant to be broken."

Think about it: 400 yard games are now almost commonplace, a 6,000 yard Regular Season is virtually inevitable and one of these guys is eventually going to throw for 90,000 career (Regular and Postseason) yards...or more.

However, as someone else observed in this thread, Tom Brady could quit today and still, at 223, hold a Total Wins record that will never be surpassed.

That said, if I were trying to articulate "Career Capping" Goals for TB12 (and, I hasten to add that his career does NOT need to be "capped"...it's a complete piece of work already and he is already the GOAT), I would put them as:

A sixth ring. He's already surpassed Montana and Bradshaw, but six would make him the only QB in NFL history to lead his team to six League Championships (Bart Starr, spanning the "old" NFL and the SB era NFL, led the Pack to five...including three in a row, which not even Brady is likely to equal). Somehow, I think that, as serious a student of the game as he is, TB12 is aware of this. So, a sixth ring.

250+ career wins. Definitely within his reach, barring serious injury or his wining a sixth SB this season and deciding to go out on top.

For now, every game the Pats win with TB12 as QB, makes his Total Wins record that much more difficult...if not impossible...to equal.
 
So he’s 75% of the way there at 41 years old

Sounds nice, don’t count on it
 
I should clarify I don’t think it’s likely he will reach 300. But if he plays until his stated age goal and doesn’t decline in win % he is shockingly not far away.
 
Love the thought, but this is actually less than LLoyd Christmas likely.
 
reminds me of this:
career wins by MLB pitchers
Cy Young 511
Walter Johnson 417
Warren Spahn 363
many Hall-of Famers: 275-325
 
Bill Russell blows both of them COMBINED out of the water.

How about the screwball that I saw last week who wanted to take Russell off of Mt Rushmore but leave Bird?

It's too bad that you youngsters didn't get to see Russell play. You missed something special.

Carry on.


I'll second that. 11 titles in 13 seasons, including an eight-peat! The Celts missed out on 10 in a row when he broke his leg and could not play for the 1958 title.

He fundamentally changed the game with his intimidating defense and especially his blocked shots. Nobody could drive on him. Granted he played in a smaller NBA back then and he had the good fortune to play with some great players and the greatest coach/gm of all-time, but he was certainly special in every way. In my mind he remains the greatest Celtic of all time bar none!
 
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