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Report: surgery for Gronk

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Thanks for making me feel better about my herniated c6. I've been in PT for a few weeks and haven't had any improvement. Next step is the injection but by the sounds of it, it may not be very effective... But at least my trainer is cute!
 
Article in the Globe on Gronk's last surgery says recovery time is 12 weeks.

I hope they just shut him down for the year if the recovery time is 8-12 weeks. One, I'd like to see him around for a few years, and back injuries are serious. Two, if they shut him down, the team can move on and plan for the rest of the year without the spectre of him returning. Looking back to the 2nd Giants SB game, he was really gimpy and Brady put too much confidence in his ability to move. Without Gronk on the field, Brady is not likely to have heaved a pass to be intercepted by a below average LB.
 
That being said, the fan in me hopes that somehow he makes it onto the plane to the SB.
right now the fan in me wants to get to the SB.
 
Gronks done for the year. I still want to keep him at least until his current deal is up. He is the best tight end I have ever seen play. Our Super Bowl chances just dropped about 25%.
 
Like I was saying...we all love Gronk, he is likeable and he produces big time.

He is hurt a lot, lets be real he is hurt a lot, not 'the sky is falling" but Gronk gets hurt quite a bit.

If an opportunity came to move him, would they pass it up? No. That would suck but you get paid to be on the field, you get paid to be dependable, which he is WHEN he is there. I would hate to see him go but if the right (within reason) offer came, they would and should pull the trigger.

I would happily eat my words if he comes back, balls out and stays healthy.

The Gronk situation is what it is right now, focus now is obviously now on offensively game planning for life without him. We have Bennett, Jules, Danny, Hogan, White, Blount, Lewis we are looking good....I still like our chances, AND we have TB12.

Again, we go as the offensive line goes, that will be the case, and NOT having Gronk in a weird sort of way is not entirely all bad.

Not so bad...
 
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Have already seen some talk from others about getting rid of Gronk, and using that money to tie Jimmy G over until Brady calls it quits lol.
 
If an opportunity came to move him, would they pass it up? No. That would suck but you get paid to be on the field, you get paid to be dependable, which he is WHEN he is there. I would hate to see him go but if the right (within reason) offer came, they would and should pull the trigger.

Sure, I don't think he's completely untouchable in the same way that Brady has been for most of his career. The question is what constitutes the right offer? Even with Gronk's injury history, if you figure he's going to recover fully from this injury it would still take quite an offer to pry him away. Practically speaking, I can't see any other teams being willing to pay what I think it would take for the Pats to part with him, but who knows.
 
I think first of all, ANY back surgery is "major" or serious, especially when it's your 3rd one. I mean, c'mon.

Secondly, "resting it out" (pitiful, terrible wording from Curran) and hoping that physical therapy helps the body to reabsorb the fluid/gel like material from the ruptured/herniated disk is pretty much a futile effort, unless one is willing to go through 18-24 months of sheer agony, or they get lucky and see results through steroid epidurals, etc. There's obviously a reason why the team didn't even bother attempting that route, which is almost always the preferred initial method of treatment. As you noted, he'd have been risking permanent nerve damage, so why "resting it out" would even be considered for him at this point in time is beyond me. Curran is wrong on this.

It also can take months and months before you have any hint as to whether or not the PT is even working, so if he did "rest it out" only to find out in the spring that he'd need surgery, a majority of 2017 could be in jeopardy. Much like JJ Watt, they bypassed any thought of PT and went right for surgery this time. Again, this is for a reason. The days of resting it out are gone in situations like this. I'm sure no one wished to concede the remainder of Gronk's 2016 production heading into the postseason because "it wasn't major..."

When it ruptures, the material inside leaks all over your nerve endings, often including symptoms of sciatica--which is what he experienced the first time. They then go in (lamenectomy, and often diskectomy) and clean up all of that exploded material to allow the nerves an attempt to rejuvenate. Sometimes it happens in 3 months, sometimes in 12 months, and sometimes not at all.

If you read his comments from the first one, he was quite concerned that he'd never regain feeling in his bottom legs/toes again, which is where I'm at after about 3 months out of surgery right now. Since that fluid inside the disk cannot come back and we've yet to see medical breakthroughs for "fake disks" implanted, there's no longer anything to hold the back up in place. It's why people often need a fusion surgery for their spinal column. Either way, post-NFL career, he will have issues for the rest of his life.

I would bet any amount of money that he will almost certainly need that fusion surgery at some point in the next handful of years, and had it not been for his football career, he'd have likely gotten it already. He's a freak athlete so he may be able to return to 75-80 percent of where he was at some point, but he may not be long for this game after this latest news. Fingers crossed.

Here's an article from his obstacles on the last one. They don't get easier as they go on, but quite the opposite.

Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski can return6 from back surgery, but will he be same dominant player? - The Boston Globe

My wife went to the doctor with back pain and sciatica down her leg. The doctor recommended 6-8 weeks of physical therapy, rest and then steroid injections. Unfortunately, for us her doctor didn't take an x-ray to assess the damage. She went to physical therapy, had steroid injections but here pain not only didn't improve but got worse. Finally she had an x-ray and was diagnosed with a herniated disc. She had an mri and we got a call from her doctors office shortly after the mri was finished. They wanted us to meet with a surgeon asap.

The surgeon showed us her MRI and said he only sees herniation's this bad a few times a year. He then asked my wife if she was having any problems urinating. I thought to myself what the hell does back pain have to do with going to the bathroom. He then explained to us that there are nerves in your back that help control bowel and bladder function and if these nerves are damaged they DON'T regenerate. You will have bladder problems for life.

We met with the surgeon on a Tuesday and her surgery was on Friday. The surgery went well but the surgeon explained to me that he had to remove most of her disc. If she has problems with the same disc in the future the next step would be a fusion.

I have no idea how anyone in the media can put a time table on Gronks recovery. I just hope he has a full recovery and doesn't have any long term health issues.
 
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I would prefer Brady sit because a healthy JG is certainly capable of beating the Rams and could be better than a hobbled Brady.

Understand but I dont buy it, JG played what not even two games, not much to go one there. With Gronk gone indefinitely every game is important. I just wouldn't risk winning. The Rams dont have a bad defense and you saw what happened with the Jets.
 
At least I'm not worried this week. We'll just go run heavy with LG, Brandon and Danny.
 
When it ruptures, the material inside leaks all over your nerve endings,

Not always, herniated doesnt mean a full rupture, I had two in my neck, sucked, still have some nerve damage into my hand from it. But no leakage at all. We wont ever know the details about Gronk though.
 
Mitchell (assuming he continues to improve) and Hogan are upgrades at flanker and split end over anything they had in 2013 and Bennett is no slouch. The offense will no longer be a pinball machine but they aren't dead.

And we are more stacked at third down back too.

This team is far from done. Hysterics/hysterical posters aside this is the NFL where key injuries happen.

The Patriots still have lots of targets. They will adjust and hone, hopefully, over the next weeks to maximize O potential. If successful they are one of if not the best O in the league.
 
ouch... can he make it back healthy in time for the playoffs? if we continue to perform we will have the bye week which gives him an extra week or so to get healthy... but he would have to practice too to get in shape for a playoff game of football. really bad luck...

omg i forgot all about the madden curse!!
 
some classics from fans today

 
You know, after the 4th Super Bowl I said to myself "after this, everything else is gravy". I'll always root for the Pats, but I don't have this overwhelming burning desire to win a title anymore. The 4th one is the one I really wanted. I feel content... at least for a while.

So, in a sense that helps me not be completely and utterly devastated by this news. Gronk is the greatest tight end of all time. Most of us know that... but if he's not on the field, the ceiling of the team is lowered. Games will be harder, tougher, tighter. Especially in the playoffs. Winning was going to be tough enough with the defense playing the way it has been... now Gronk... yeah, let's just say I'm already looking forward to next season and a healthy Gronk (hopefully).
 
I hope they just shut him down for the year if the recovery time is 8-12 weeks. One, I'd like to see him around for a few years, and back injuries are serious. Two, if they shut him down, the team can move on and plan for the rest of the year without the spectre of him returning. Looking back to the 2nd Giants SB game, he was really gimpy and Brady put too much confidence in his ability to move. Without Gronk on the field, Brady is not likely to have heaved a pass to be intercepted by a below average LB.

I would normally agree, but if there's one game where you bite the bullet and take the risk, the Super Bowl is it. if the Pats make it to the Super Bowl, and he's healthy enough to be a difference maker, I'd say get him a week of practice then put him out there and do everything you can to get ring #5.
 
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