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[Hoodie]

From Jeff Howe's twitter feed.

 

[Hoodie]

you can see Howe's twitter feed here https://twitter.com/jeffphowe

From NY reporter https://twitter.com/BartHubbuch

 

[hwc]

I assumed they never recorded the PSI pre-game. But, they don't even have the halftime PSIs?

After what they've done to Brady and Belichick over the last 10 days? Wow.

 

[turkeyneck]

It's time to wrap it up. Wells needs to produce a report saying that there is no direct evidence of wrongdoing and insufficient data to make a circumstancial case.

Then the NFL needs to announce that they have a rule which inadequately addresses the real-world situation, that they thank the Colts for bringing it to their attention, that they are sorry the Patriots had to be disrupted during their Super Bowl preparation while this was studied, that the Super Bowl balls will be checked immediately before game time and at half time, and that the rule will be addressed in the off season to clarify its obvious conflict with Mother Nature.

 

[Bella*chick]

Wait, they said they never recorded the halftime PSIs either?

After everything that has gone on in the last ten days, can that possibly be true? Leaks about 1 or 2 psi below level….how the hell can ANYONE say that if no one knows the numbers?

 

[SVN]

It means you take anderson's word for it. I wonder why florio has not picked up on this. Kills the story i guess.

 

[tombonneau]

This this this this this. I mean, if this doesn't shut any idiot up who *****es about cheating. ****ING PSI PRE-DATES WORLD WAR TWO!!!!

Bart HubbuchVerified account?@BartHubbuch
Blandino said the 12.5-13.5 psi inflation rule goes back in the NFL rule book all the way to the 1930s.

 

[BadMoFo]

This this this this this. I mean, if this doesn't shut any idiot up who *****es about cheating. ****ING PSI PRE-DATES WORLD WAR TWO!!!!

How exactly is that going to shut anyone up?

 

[hwc]

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-...erees-test-and-document-football-air-pressure

Reiss's quotes.

 

[tombonneau]

How exactly is that going to shut anyone up?

That is is an archaic forgotten rule made back when footballs were constructed an entirely different way and that as footballs advanced and changed so should have the rule. And that the 12.5 - 13.5 PSI has no logical relevance to a modern day football.

 

[Show416]

That is is an archaic forgotten rule made back when footballs were constructed an entirely different way and that as footballs advanced and changed so should have the rule. And that the 12.5 - 13.5 PSI has no logical relevance to a modern day football.

Honestly if anything these haters will use this against us. 'Look at the patriots breaking AN AGE OLD RULE THAT DATES BACK TO THE GREAT DEPRESSION!!!!!' People are idiots nothing will shut them up trust me.

The NFL can come out and say 'we messed up. The patriots are 100% innocent' and people will still say it was the Patriots fault and the nfl is covering for then.

Like ive been saying. The damage has already been done regardless of the result of this stupid investigation.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

As said over in the thread in the main forum, I don't see why people are all "woo-yay! They didn't write the PSIs down! It's all BS!"

First, Blandino explicitly said the refs (Walt Anderson himself, actually) used a gauge. So we can all forget about all the "squeeze test" theories. (You can of course say Blandino is lying, but it doesn't really matter. The NFL has made it clear their official position is that the balls were gauged.)

Second, I don't see any big deal with the PSIs not being logged. Anderson saw the numbers on the gauge. He can testify to Goodell what numbers he saw. Goodell will of course believe him.

But even if this were in an actual courtroom this would still be evidence. Anderson would testify that that the balls were all in the legal limit. He may well even remember a specific pressure or two if a ball were an outlier. He'd be cross-examined. And then the fact-finder (jury, or judge in a bench trial) would have to decide how much to believe him. And if they decide to believe him, then that's pretty much as good as if there were a log.

And we're not talking about a real courtroom -- we're talking about Goodell and the league investigators, who are far more biased/corrupt than anything in a real courtroom. The lack of a log means nada.

 

[turkeyneck]

Second, I don't see any big deal with the PSIs not being logged. Anderson saw the numbers on the gauge.

This matters because his cursory glance at a non-lab quality gage could be off +/- .5 psi or more. The calculations are all over the map with that kind of slop in the data.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

This matters because his cursory glance at a non-lab quality gage could be off +/- .5 psi or more. The calculations are all over the map with that kind of slop in the data.

Which would be just as true if he made the same cursory glance at a non-lab quality gauge and wrote the number down.

 

[turkeyneck]

Which would be just as true if he made the same cursory glance at a non-lab quality gauge and wrote the number down.

Well, yes on principle. But I know I wouldn't recall hours or days later a dozen or more measurements to the full precision of the reading that I might have recorded at the appropriate time.

 

[grux]

Deleted post, I didn't read the thread correctly.

 

[Hoodie]

This stands to make the Commish's State of the League press conference tomorrow very interesting. Very interesting indeed.

It's tomorrow at 1:30 est.

 

[Galeb]

This stands to make the Commish's State of the League press conference tomorrow very interesting. Very interesting indeed.

Yeah, it'll be a regular "Puppy Who Lost His Way".

 

[Hoodie]

Yeah, it'll be a regular "Puppy Who Lost His Way".

I hope he gets the same treatment Brady got.

 

[Bella*chick]

Well, the headlines will write themselves tomorrow.