The 2014 Mock draft Thread.

[mayoclinic]

I wouldn't hesitate taking Mosley, even if we think we already have our starting LBers. While Collins really came on at the end of last season, I think he would be best utilized as a matchup weapon instead of a base LBer. Use his versatility, keep him fresh and play to his strengths and I think he can be a playmaker for us. I know some people like the idea of a coverage LBer like Shazier early in the draft, why not get a guy that is not only better in coverage but a much better overall player in Mosley. I've been sold on taking a DT in the 1st pretty much throughout the whole process, but Mosley is a top 10 talent that would make me change my mind.

That Dane Brugler mock would be almost ideal for me, especially if we could some how pull off the Mallett to Houston for #33 trade. Mosley at #29 and Hageman at #33 would be a huge upgrade for our front 7. With a lockdown secondary we could then be creative with blitzes, especially utilizing guys like Hightower and Collins to get after the QB. Instead of having one specific 'system' we would have the versatility to play any defense against any team to best suit the matchups.

I like Mosley, but I'd rather have Jordan Tripp or Christian Jones in the 3rd. I think both have more versatility and upside than Mosley.

 

[Wilfork#75]

I like Mosley, but I'd rather have Jordan Tripp or Christian Jones in the 3rd. I think both have more versatility and upside than Mosley.

What is it that you think those guys offer that Mosley doesn't?

I like Christian Jones but I find it really hard to love him. To me he is all potential instead of a player right now. He is certainly a freak athlete but I think the fact that FSU moved him around so much and never let him get settled makes it hard to evaluate him. He hasn't properly developed instincts for any one position yet and that scares the hell out of me. For a LBer in particular I think instincts are hugely important and its a big risk hoping he develops that at the NFL level. I would love to take a chance on him though because the upside is there, I just wouldn't pass up on Mosley because of him because I think Mosley could be an elite, Luke Kuechly type LBer.

 

[mayoclinic]

What is it that you think those guys offer that Mosley doesn't?

I like Christian Jones but I find it really hard to love him. To me he is all potential instead of a player right now. He is certainly a freak athlete but I think the fact that FSU moved him around so much and never let him get settled makes it hard to evaluate him. He hasn't properly developed instincts for any one position yet and that scares the hell out of me. For a LBer in particular I think instincts are hugely important and its a big risk hoping he develops that at the NFL level. I would love to take a chance on him though because the upside is there, I just wouldn't pass up on Mosley because of him because I think Mosley could be an elite, Luke Kuechly type LBer.

It's all in the eye of the beholder, and that's what makes it so interesting. We see pretty much the same things, but have very different takes on it.

I like Mosley, but I think he's mostly a MLB who can also play some WLB. He has great instincts and leadership, is fairly tough, and is good in coverage. He's a good player. But I think his upside is limited. I think his smarts and instincts have covered up a basic deficit in athleticism, that could be exposed at the next level. I don't see Luke Kuechly or Navorro Bowman, personally. I think Mosley will be a very solid pro, but not exceptional. Obviously, I could be very, very wrong. I'm a little leery of Alabama guys being products of the system, and of potential concerns with his knees, but those are secondary issues for me.

I think Jones has much more versatility than Mosley. He's can play MLB, WILL and SAM, can play a hybrid LB/S role, and can came off the edge. He's been stout enough to play inside at DT. He has high football intelligence to play so many positions at a high level, and the lack of instincts because he's been moved around so much don't concern me that much. I think Tripp has much more athleticism and explosiveness than Mosley, and if he played for Alabama, we'd be talking about him as a 1st round pick.

I wouldn't be at all unhappy having Mosley on the Pats. I'd prefer him at MLB to Dont'a Hightower because of his better coverage ability. But I wouldn't spend a 1st round pick on him, especially with other guys that I like better available later on.

 

[ATippett56]

2014 New England Patriots Mock Draft - 3/18/14

Straight Up - No Screwing Around

Round 1 - Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG - UCLA (24)

Round 2 - Westin Richburg, OC - Colorado State (74)

Round 3 - Jordan Tripp, OLB - Montana (116)

Round 4 - Justin Ellis, DT - Louisiana Tech (156)

Round 6 - Marqueston Huff, FS - Wyoming (202)

Round 6 - Khairi Fortt, OLB - California (204)

Round 6 Compensatory - Trey Millard, FB - Oklahoma (239) or Gator Hoskins, FB - Marshall (265)

Round 7 - Jake Murphy, TE - Utah (293) or Blake Annen, TE - Cincinnati (316)

Parenthesis - NFLDraftScout Overall Rankings

NFL Draft - 2014 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Note: Multiple selections depends on availability

Collegiate UDFAs (potential diamonds in the rough):

Lorenzo Taliaferro, RB - Coastal Carolina (276)
Quincy Enunwa, WR - Nebraska (308)
Ted Bolser, TE - Indiana (332)
Zach Kerr, DT - Delaware (305)
Beau Allen, DT - Wisconsin (414)
Jamil Merrell, DE - Rutgers (411)
Kenny Anunike, DE - Duke (429)
Chris Young, ILB - Arizona State (344)
Caleb Lavey, ILB - Oklahoma State (362)
Anthony Hitchens, OLB - Iowa (325)
Jonathan Dowling, FS - Western Kentucky (284)
Brock Vereen, SS - Minnesota (336)
Brandon Dixon, CB - Northwest Missouri State (318)
Keith Reaser, CB - Florida Atlantic (345)

Unrestricted Free Agent Acquisitions:

Michael Hoomanawanui
Julian Edelman
Brandon LaFell
Will Svitek
Brandon Browner
Darrelle Revis

Salary Cap Casualties:

Isaac Sopoaga
Steve Gregory
Adrian Wilson (Seriously Bill, what are you waiting for?)

NFI List (to be "redshirted" for the 2014 NFL Season):

Trey Millard

 

[Don_the_patfan]

FA is still happening but as we stand with our recent acquisitions this is what I am going with. Need based somewhat.

1. DT Louis Nix III
2. TE Troy Nicklas
3. OC Travis Swanson
4. OLB Adrian Hubbard
6. DE ED Stinton
6. OG Russell Bodine
7. TE Colt Lyerla

 

[Brady6]

FA is still happening but as we stand with our recent acquisitions this is what I am going with. Need based somewhat.

1. DT Louis Nix III
2. TE Troy Nicklas
3. OC Travis Swanson
4. OLB Adrian Hubbard
6. DE ED Stinton
6. OG Russell Bodine
7. TE Colt Lyerla

I like the Hubbard pick he is a specimen. I am very torn on Nix however, if we traded back and he was around in the second I would be all for it, I just do not know that a 340Lb. nose tackle carries as much value as it once did in this NFL.

 

[BobDigital]

I like the Hubbard pick he is a specimen. I am very torn on Nix however, if we traded back and he was around in the second I would be all for it, I just do not know that a 340Lb. nose tackle carries as much value as it once did in this NFL.

I think a NT can have value in a few rare cases in todays NFL.

If you have a NT that is so dominate that he can clog the middle alone and allow everyone else to attack without fear of getting gashed up the middle. I would say that definitely worth having. It allows you to go undersized and get speed at other positions.

However that is not our system at this point in time.

 

[Brady6]

- 36-Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE (45)
- 54-Kareem Martin, DE (52)
- 62-Dominique Easley, DT (57)
- 67-Donte Moncrief, WR (67)
- 86-DaQuan Jones, DT (83)
- 93-Joel Bitonio, OT (96)
- 118-Jordan Tripp, OLB (116)
- 126-Bryan Stork, OC (140)
- CP-Isaiah Crowell, RB (186)
- 190-Matt Patchan, OT (196)
- 221-Michael Campanaro, WR (209)

- UDFA-Jonathan Dowling, DB (284)
- UDFA-Trey Burton, TE (252)
- UDFA-Gator Hoskins, FB (265)
- UDFA-Jamie Meder, DT (267)
- UDFA-Dexter McDougle, DB (279)
- UDFA-Matt Hazel, WR (285)
- UDFA-Zack Kerr, DT (305)
- UDFA-Brandon Dixon, DB (318)
- UDFA-Lawrence Virgil, DE (436)
- UDFA-Chris Boyd, WR (460)
- UDFA-Tyler Ott, LS (485)
- UDFA-Mike Pennel, DT (655)

 

[Brady6]

Trades –
- Trade Ryan Mallett to the Texans for #33 overall in the 2014 draft
- Trade #29 to the Jaguars for #39, #70, and #138 in the 2014 draft
- Trade #33 to the Eagles for #54, #86, and #118 in the 2014 draft
Selections –
- #39-Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE
- #54-Kareem Martin, DE
- #62-Dominique Easley, DT
- #70-Donte Moncrief, WR
- #86-Joel Bitonio, OT
- #93-C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE
- #118-Jordan Tripp, OLB
- #126-Bryan Stork, OC
- #138-Justin Ellis, DT
- CP-Isaiah Crowell, RB
- #182-Matt Patchan, OT
- #190-Preston Brown, ILB
- #221-Larry Webster, DE

 

[Mark Morse]

I like the fact you used Fanspeak to guestimate the exact positions where we pick. I used Miguels colleague Craig Turner's to guess position. The only major difference was he only assigned us one comp pick (Patrick Chung). Hope he's wrong, but his research looks solid.

2014 NFL compensatory pick projections

This is what I came up with based on his calculations:

1-29
2-62
3-93
4-128
6-196 (PHI)
6-204
6-210(Comp)
7-242

Nice work.

I agree about the comp picks after reading Miguels article. Thomas and Wesley Johnson moves on the OL. BB never drafts OG out of college. He takes OTs and makes them OG (Mankins). Thomas has excellent footwork and speed. Johnson is too slight to play OT in NFL. He has worked out at the combine at OC. Any player that is 1st team in the SEC needs to get a look in the NFL. Johnson was 1st team at LT for Vandy. He didn't give up a sack in two years.

 

[ATippett56]

2014 New England Patriots Mock Draft - 3/20/14

Straight Up - No Screwing Around

Round 1 - Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG - UCLA (24)

Round 2 - Westin Richburg, OC - Colorado State (74)

Round 3 - Jordan Tripp, OLB - Montana (116) or Christian Jones, ILB - Florida State (123)

Round 4 - Caraun Reid, DT - Princeton (137) or Justin Ellis, DT - Louisiana Tech (156)

Round 6 - Marqueston Huff, FS - Wyoming (202)

Round 6 - Khairi Fortt, OLB - California (204)

Round 6 Compensatory - Trey Millard, FB - Oklahoma (239) or Gator Hoskins, FB - Marshall (265)

Round 7 - Jake Murphy, TE - Utah (293) or Blake Annen, TE - Cincinnati (316)

Parenthesis - NFLDraftScout Overall Rankings

NFL Draft - 2014 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Note: Multiple selections depends on availability

Collegiate UDFAs (potential diamonds in the rough):

Lorenzo Taliaferro, RB - Coastal Carolina (276)
Quincy Enunwa, WR - Nebraska (308)
Ted Bolser, TE - Indiana (332)
Zach Kerr, DT - Delaware (305)
Beau Allen, DT - Wisconsin (414)
Jamil Merrell, DE - Rutgers (411)
Kenny Anunike, DE - Duke (429)
Chris Young, ILB - Arizona State (344)
Caleb Lavey, ILB - Oklahoma State (362)
Brock Coyle, ILB - Montana (427)
Anthony Hitchens, OLB - Iowa (325)
Xavius Boyd, OLB - Western Kentucky (374)
Jonathan Dowling, FS - Western Kentucky (284)
Brock Vereen, SS - Minnesota (336)
Brandon Dixon, CB - Northwest Missouri State (318)
Keith Reaser, CB - Florida Atlantic (345)

Unrestricted Free Agent Acquisitions:

Michael Hoomanawanui
Julian Edelman
Brandon LaFell
Will Svitek
Brandon Browner
Darrelle Revis

Salary Cap Casualties:

Isaac Sopoaga
Steve Gregory
Adrian Wilson (Seriously Bill, what are you waiting for?)

NFI List (to be "redshirted" for the 2014 NFL Season):

Trey Millard

 

[Rusty Coupe]

1st round - Scott Crichton - DE - Oregon State

2nd Round - Weston Richburg - C - Colorado State

3rd Round - Dakota Dozier - G - Furman

4th Round - Brent Urban - DT/DE - Virginia

6th Round - Nickoe Whitley - S - Mississippi State

6th Round - Crockett Gilmore - TE - Colorado State

6th Round comp - James Hurst - OT - North Carolina

7th Round - Andrew Jackson - ILB - Western Kentucky

 

[patsinthesnow]

Teddy Bridgewater drops in Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock draft - NFL.com

1. Bridgewater free falls to No. 26

If you had a bad week at work, just know it probably wasn't as bad as Teddy Bridgewater's. There was plenty of concern when the former Louisville quarterback had a lackluster pro day, but most folks still cautioned it was only one day and that he could rebound. Well, maybe not all that much.

A less-than-stellar pro day and general lack of excitement generated by Teddy Bridgewater has the QB dropping dramatically in Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock draft. More ...

Jeremiah has two other quarterbacks going ahead of Bridgewater and, with most of the teams in the middle of the first round not looking for somebody under center, the result is a huge drop to the Browns at No. 26. The former NFL scout still believes Bridgewater is the top quarterback in the draft this year but notes that there are few teams that are getting exciting about him

Ok, I'll play along. I present the, "How the heck would Patsfans react to this draft?" mock draft:

Patriots Trade Mallett to Texans for pick 65.
Patriots Trade pick 29 and 4th rounder to Chargers for pick 25.

25. Teddy Bridgewater QB
61. Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE
65. Dominique Easley DT
91. Travis Swanson C

 

[patsfaninpa]

Houston is trading Schaub and has already signed Ryan Fitzpatrick. Can we stop the Mallett to Houston trades? They are going to draft Bortles and OB will live/die with
his decision. If Mallett goes somewhere, we need to use a similiar pick that we'd get to replace him. Doesn't make sense to me at this point to trade him. God forbid he plays this year. Brady injury. But, if he does. You can always put some kind of tag on him and deal him next spring as we did with Cassel.

 

[everlong]

1st round - Scott Crichton - DE - Oregon State

I watched him vs Stanford last night on Draft Breakdown and wow what a game he had. With nearly the same measurables as Ealy he's a much better football player and uses his hands so much better. Funny but I happened to look at Pat Kirwan's lastest mock a few minutes ago and he had the Pats taking Crichton in the first round at 29. Then I come here and see your mock for the triple helping of Crichton in the past 18 hours.

 

[everlong]

Houston is trading Schaub and has already signed Ryan Fitzpatrick. Can we stop the Mallett to Houston trades? They are going to draft Bortles and OB will live/die with
his decision.

Or take Clowney and then Garoppolo at the top of the second.

Not that it will happen but if they ever took Carr at the top of the second, I think he'll be gone by then, I would have to go to the Texan forums to enjoy the carnage since they took his brother number one overall.

 

[mayoclinic]

I watched him vs Stanford last night on Draft Breakdown and wow what a game he had. With nearly the same measurables as Ealy he's a much better football player and uses his hands so much better. Funny but I happened to look at Pat Kirwan's lastest mock a few minutes ago and he had the Pats taking Crichton in the first round at 29. Then I come here and see your mock for the triple helping of Crichton in the past 18 hours.

Crichton would make a very good base end, especially on the strongide. He's not flashy and isn't the most explosive guy, but he's very physical with a great motor, and great hand usage, as you note. But he has very little agility and fluidity, which limits him. I wouldn't go there at 29, but if he slips ...

 

[Rusty Coupe]

I watched him vs Stanford last night on Draft Breakdown and wow what a game he had. With nearly the same measurables as Ealy he's a much better football player and uses his hands so much better. Funny but I happened to look at Pat Kirwan's lastest mock a few minutes ago and he had the Pats taking Crichton in the first round at 29. Then I come here and see your mock for the triple helping of Crichton in the past 18 hours.

Honestly, the reason I took him was Walters mock had the Giants taking him in the 2nd. and figured the if there is one thing the NYG do really well is draft the DL

 

[patchick]

Houston is trading Schaub and has already signed Ryan Fitzpatrick. Can we stop the Mallett to Houston trades? They are going to draft Bortles and OB will live/die with his decision.

I don't believe in a Mallett trade either, but I don't see how Fitzpatrick factors in to that at all. He's a top backup/stopgap starter, who IMO would make equal sense whether they chose Mallett or Bortles.

 

[mayoclinic]

I don't believe in a Mallett trade either, but I don't see how Fitzpatrick factors in to that at all. He's a top backup/stopgap starter, who IMO would make equal sense whether they chose Mallett or Bortles.

I tend to agree with this. The question is still whether Houston prefers Bortles + BPA at 33 to Clowney/Mack/Robinson at #1 and either someone like Jimmy Garoppolo or a trade for Ryan Mallett at 33. Fitzpatrick probably won't have an impact on that decision.