If You have an Elite QB is it better to have a Defensive Coach

[SalemPats]

Looking at the playoff teams:

Defensive coaches:
Patriot: Brady and BB
Broncos: Manning and Fox
Colts: Luck and Pagano
Seahawks: Wilson and Carroll (DC before becoming a head coach)
Carolina Newton and Riverboat Ron

Offensive coaches:
Niners: Harbaugh, but they made it because of their defense
Chargers: McCoy - their in the divisional round, but only because succop missed a kick
Saints: Payton and Brees. Payton is a brilliant mind

I believe in the old premise, defense wins and when you have a great QB, you give him the options and let him decide. He's more in charge than the OC.

 

[oldrover]

Bill Walsh says no, from the pearly gates.

But he might be the only one.

Most of the other great coaches... Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Belichick... fit that description... they focus on defense, and let their QB handle the offense.

Joe Gibbs was an offense guy... but he won with less-than-elite QB's.

Shula was a tweener.

Interesting observation!

 

[RYObroncosfan]

Looking at the playoff teams:

Defensive coaches:
Patriot: Brady and BB
Broncos: Manning and Fox
Colts: Luck and Pagano
Seahawks: Wilson and Carroll (DC before becoming a head coach)
Carolina Newton and Riverboat Ron

Offensive coaches:
Niners: Harbaugh, but they made it because of their defense
Chargers: McCoy - their in the divisional round, but only because succop missed a kick
Saints: Payton and Brees. Payton is a brilliant mind

I believe in the old premise, defense wins and when you have a great QB, you give him the options and let him decide. He's more in charge than the OC.

I think it almost goes without saying...when you have an elite QB, he can coach the offense himself, to a certain extent. If your coach can focus more on the strength of the defense and let the offense handle itself, that would seem to be the most favorable recipe for success.

Here's what I'm really interested in with the final 8:

The AFC is almost all old/older QBs who almost exclusively stay in the pocket, and the NFC is almost all young, mobile QBs.

AFC: Brady/Manning/Rivers with Luck the exception
NFC: Wilson/Kap/Newton with Brees a clear exception.

Both of the exceptions are big underdogs this week, and even if they win, I don't see either making the Super Bowl. Which means this year's SB is a battle of the old style QB vs the new style of QB.

If you ask me, I think the old style will crush.

 

[Patsattax]

Lombardi was an offensive guy. I personally don't think it matters. As long as the offensive coach has the wits to put the right defensive mind in charge of the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Guts]

I think it almost goes without saying...when you have an elite QB, he can coach the offense himself, to a certain extent. If your coach can focus more on the strength of the defense and let the offense handle itself, that would seem to be the most favorable recipe for success.

Here's what I'm really interested in with the final 8:

The AFC is almost all old/older QBs who almost exclusively stay in the pocket, and the NFC is almost all young, mobile QBs.

AFC: Brady/Manning/Rivers with Luck the exception
NFC: Wilson/Kap/Newton with Brees a clear exception.

Both of the exceptions are big underdogs this week, and even if they win, I don't see either making the Super Bowl. Which means this year's SB is a battle of the old style QB vs the new style of QB.

If you ask me, I think the old style will crush.

I disagree that the old style would crush only because the teams theyll be facing in the Superbowl will be either Seahawks, Niners, Panthers with formidable defenses and a Saints defense that can hold their own. The Superbowl will be close between any of the teams that reach the Superbowl.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I think it's a fallacy that Belichick is a defensive coach ........

Why does it have to be one over the other?

 

[mgteich]

I think that we under-rate the value of the coordinators.