Boston Globe Reluctantly (And Very Bitterly) Waves The White Flag of Surrender

[shmessy]

I'd say this speaks more to the Sox ownership getting the team ready to be sold by dumping salary to make them more attractive.

I don't doubt that Ryan is hearing this too and knows the team is in for a few years of transition - hence he's forced to admit what we've all known for years - football is King.

But I tend to agree with the speculation that with the Dodgers setting a price point of $1.5 billion and the Red Sox aquired by the present ownership at $750 mil (along with NESN) it does make sense that you want to sell while the market is hot.

It'll also help that the next owner gets an instant cash infusion of $24 million in 2014 from the new TV deal to help offset the big investment.

Other rumors have Lucchino leaving the organization for other pursuits and John Henry clearly has additional interests suggest that there's going to be a lot of transition for the team and organization - and Ryan knows it.

.....or how about just acknowledging that Bob Kraft (who was grudgingly mentioned once in the column) has, in less than 20 years, achieved the once-unthinkable - - a privately funded state of the art stadium with a mini city around it in an outback town, while turning the region's long-held sports culture on its head. There is only one owner in the history of Boston/NE sports to come close to what this man has achieved and his name was Walter Brown.

Of course, in Ryan's (and the Globe's) mind, Gillette Stadium and Patriot Place were built by Bill Parcells, who also is responsible for the 3 Super Bowl Championships. That, and the Red Sox simply abdicated. Nothing achieved by the Patriots - - in fact, if they go 13-3 this year it is because they are playing nobody.

Here are word-for word excerpts from this "column":


"But then something happened, and that something was the hiring of the larger-than-life Bill Parcells by owner James Busch Chatsworth Osborne Orthwein."

"Well, he did come, and you can trace everything that’s going on today, from the presence of Bill Belichick, a Parcells acolyte, to the good fortune of having Tom Brady as the quarterback, to the very existence of Gillette Stadium itself, back to the hiring of Bill Parcells."


"The New England Patriots simply awoke on the morning of Aug. 26 and the town was officially theirs."


***And, now, here is the ending of this "Enjoy the rest of your lives, losers, I'm out" column by the fellow we thought had retired weeks ago:


"If any of us dwell on the reality that it is a semi-barbaric game that wrecks bodies, has the capacity to cause major brain injury, and speaks to our basest instincts, we do so only briefly, rationalizing negative thoughts away with the idea that, “Hey, these guys know the risks, and they are very happy to take them.”

You know how they love to make fun of us out there in the Great Beyond. We’re the weirdos who voted for McGovern, and who gave you Dukakis and Kerry (Mitt, we borrowed). Well, now we’re voting for football. That should make us legit.

By the way, it’s a 13-3 schedule, with only one of the on-paper tough games (Baltimore) on the road."



Talk about the bitter words of a jilted girlfriend!

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[Art Vandelay]

What is this "Globe" thing you refer too?

I believe it's a website that, for some odd reason, is printed on paper every day and driven around to people's houses.

First post! Woo hoo!

:rocker:

 

[zoostation]

I still wonder how much was reality and how much was simply driven by media coverage. The old guard of Gammons, Buckley, Ryan, Mazz, Shaunessey etc. are nothing but pathetic fanboys.

Couldn't agree more. Ryan is not as bad as the others though. Squeekie Mazz is such a passionate RS homer that he's almost ready to jump off the Tobin over the teams implosion.

Baseball is a phucking joke and I can barely watch a third of an inning without falling asleep. The fact that some of the pinkies are actually still watching this team amazes me to no end. Go Pats!

 

[Nikolai]

Boston's not the last baseball town.

I'd still say New York is a baseball town. The fuggin Giants just won the Super Bowl and their preseason coverage pales in comparison to the attention the nosediving Yankees and pathetic Mets get. Even the Rangers, with their acquisition of Nash, got more coverage this summer. The "Brooklyn Nets" are plastered everywhere.

Ask a New Yorker about the Giants and they might tell you they moved to San Francisco years ago. You've gotta put that "football" in before Giants or everyone might think you're referring to the long gone baseball team.

 

[Wolfpack]

Like it or not, the Red Sox will be dominating the local airwaves well into October. In September, everyone gets to whine and moan about how bad they are. In October, there will be all the talk that accompanies a manager being fired.

You literally - literally - get more Patriots talk listening to national braodcasts (NFL Radio or ESPN Radio) than you do listening to the local stations. All things being equal, Boston is a baseball town. Right now, things are not equal. Hopefully no one is foolish enough to believe that this signifies any sort of major change for the region.

 

[Gwedd]

There was a time, some years back, that I considered subscribing to the Globe, simply to use it for lining the birdcage.

Then I realized how redundant that would be.

 

[Urgent]

Ryan may point to the hiring of Parcells as the turning point in Patriots history, but all true fans and historians know it was the 'little Zeke moment.'

Because before there was Kraft and Parcells, there was Mowatt and Olsen.

Barstool Sports: The Man Who Saved the Patriots

I hope that if Zeke Mowatt ever has any regrets, his guardian angel will come down and show him, “It’s a Wonderful Life”-style, how much good he has done in this world. The stadium, the banners, the unforgettable games; we owe it all to him. As Clarence tells George Bailey, “One man’s life touches so many others.” And when Zeke Mowatt touched himself, he touched us all.

 

[Gwedd]

Boston's not the last baseball town.

I'd still say New York is a baseball town. The fuggin Giants just won the Super Bowl and their preseason coverage pales in comparison to the attention the nosediving Yankees and pathetic Mets get. Even the Rangers, with their acquisition of Nash, got more coverage this summer. The "Brooklyn Nets" are plastered everywhere.

Ask a New Yorker about the Giants and they might tell you they moved to San Francisco years ago. You've gotta put that "football" in before Giants or everyone might think you're referring to the long gone baseball team.

Certainly, but to understand how the Globe acts in such a bitter manner, how it aligns so much with the rank and file of the NYT, you need to know that the Globe is owned by the same group that owns the NYT. In essence, it's the NYT lite, the "farm team" for them, if you will.

That's why it always has that stuffiness, that attitude which considers everyone and anyone who differs with their opinion(s) to be provincial, at best.

The Globe doesn't write for Bostonians, or anyone else in New England. It writes for displaced New Yorkers, and those from the various burroughs who are vacationing up north.

 

[Gwedd]

Ryan may point to the hiring of Parcells as the turning point in Patriots history, but all true fans and historians know it was the 'little Zeke moment.'

Because before there was Kraft and Parcells, there was Mowatt and Olsen.

Barstool Sports: The Man Who Saved the Patriots

That story should be a part of the displays at Patriots Place.

After all, Zeke has a "large part", as it were, in this franchise's history.

 

[Jackson 2]

Certainly, but to understand how the Globe acts in such a bitter manner, how it aligns so much with the rank and file of the NYT, you need to know that the Globe is owned by the same group that owns the NYT. In essence, it's the NYT lite, the "farm team" for them, if you will.

That's why it always has that stuffiness, that attitude which considers everyone and anyone who differs with their opinion(s) to be provincial, at best.

The Glode doesn't write for Bostonians, or anyone else in New England. It writes for displaced New Yorkers, and those from the various burroughs who are vacationing up north.

Good God, what utter BS.

 

[Rob0729]

You'd never know it's a football town listening to EEI. In the car as I scan stations it's bees ball 24/7 on EEI. Admitedly the FM station is 24/7 shrieking about how cheap Kraft is and how it's the End of the Patriots with the 2012 OL.

Well, that is why EEI is losing in the ratings. They are the flagship station of the Red Sox and are reluctant to accept this is a football town.

98.5 knows football is king and emphasizes it far more. But as you say, they are not immune to the "low hanging fruit" rule of radio in that blowing up a controversy no matter how minor and harp on it for days will generate plenty of passionate calls.

 

[NinjaZX6R]

The King is dead. Long live the King.

 

[BingoBrown]

I don't think the Red Sox surrendered this year.

They were overrun their homes pillaged and burned to the
ground their women taken.

 

[zoostation]

Well, that is why EEI is losing in the ratings. They are the flagship station of the Red Sox and are reluctant to accept this is a football town.

98.5 knows football is king and emphasizes it far more. But as you say, they are not immune to the "low hanging fruit" rule of radio in that blowing up a controversy no matter how minor and harp on it for days will generate plenty of passionate calls.

Mike Adams still thinks the RS have a good shot at the wildcard.

Try to get that guy to lead the callers into talking football.

 

[lurker1965]

Good God, what utter BS.

I love people who, instead of arguing a point just mock it. You sir are a politician.

I'm not saying you are wrong or right, just calling you out for not even attempting to make a point.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

E(It's behind their paywall, so if you don't have a subscription, the above summary basically encapsulates what he said)

Boston now officially belongs to the Patriots - The Boston Globe

BTW, just like with WSJ articles you can often defeat the paywall by plugging the article headline into a search engine and then clicking on the search result that points to the article.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Boston's not the last baseball town.

I'd still say New York is a baseball town. The fuggin Giants just won the Super Bowl and their preseason coverage pales in comparison to the attention the nosediving Yankees and pathetic Mets get. Even the Rangers, with their acquisition of Nash, got more coverage this summer. The "Brooklyn Nets" are plastered everywhere.

I guess there are advantages to living in Philly (few, very few I know) because this is and has been a football city. Even when the Phillies won the World Series a few years ago, there were several articles wondering how Andy Reid would respond never having won a championship. When Lurie made a comment that another 8-8 wasn't good enough, it was front page news. They do a pretty decent job covering other teams (especially the Pats) and the local sportsradio station cater to that demographic...

 

[Jackson 2]

I love people who, instead of arguing a point just mock it. You sir are a politician.

I'm not saying you are wrong or right, just calling you out for not even attempting to make a point.

First, I appreciate your declaration of love, undeserved as it may be. Second, your assumption in regard to my gender is as presumptuous as your assessment of the accuracy of my comment. Third, some positions are so blatantly full of irresponsible generalizations so as to not be deserving of detailed rebuttals. Finally, your claim that I'm a politician is far enough off the mark to pretty much invalidate everything you wrote before it.

 

[Gwedd]

First, I appreciate your declaration of love, undeserved as it may be. Second, your assumption in regard to my gender is as presumptuous as your assessment of the accuracy of my comment. Third, some positions are so blatantly full of irresponsible generalizations so as to not be deserving of detailed rebuttals. Finally, your claim that I'm a politician is far enough off the mark to pretty much invalidate everything you wrote before it.

So....... let's hear where I'm wrong, then. I'm all atwitter and duck bumps to listen to your talking points vis-a-vis "The Globe".

I stand by my comments that the Boston Globe is more or less the "Cliff Notes" version of the NYT, with some local sprinklings to give it a veneer of the vulgate, and alert the visiting elite to the concerns of their provinicial hosts and hoi paloi about town.

 

[shmessy]

BTW, just like with WSJ articles you can often defeat the paywall by plugging the article headline into a search engine and then clicking on the search result that points to the article.

That's how I read that entire article. Legally, however, I do not want to "advocate" doing that.