PatsFans.com Menu
PatsFans.com - The Hub For New England Patriots Fans
PatsFans.com - The Hub For New England Patriots Fans

Felger: Setting the stupidity bar even lower

Status
Not open for further replies.
This is a very good point and the one that Felgy cannot seem to get into his fat head; the reason the Patriots scored less with Moss has to do with the competition not because of some ridiculous Moss conspiracy to ruin the team. If Moss was so horrible in the locker room and on the field why do the players coaches and owners love him?

Moss needs a press conference and PR coach but he is the opposite of Felger woud have us believe.

Actually, I think you may be having problems grasping the point. PATRIOTSFANINPA is saying the lack of offensive production AFTER Moss left had to do with the opposing defenses not that the Pats scored less while Moss was here.

The fact of the matter is the only games the Pats scored more points on offense than any of the last three games since the Moss left was Buffalo and Cincy (ok, they scored four more points in Miami than they did in San Deigo). Now I don't think that Moss leaving neccessarily meant the offense got better, but I think his loss has been overstated by many. This offense wasn't clicking on all cyllanders when Moss was here except against way inferior competition (Buffalo and Cincy).

Moss was tossed out of Minnesota after four games. If he was so great for the Pats, why did the Pats give him up for just a third? Why have the Pats been undefeated since he left even if they faced one of their toughest part of their schedule. I don't think the loss of Moss makes this team go from an one and done playoff team to a Championship game participant like Felger, but I don't think his loss has a huge effect on this team. I don't think he is coming back either.
 
Michael Felger is absolutely correct. The Pats are better without Moss and Felger knew this before all others. Try not to resist the genius that is Felger. Walk towards the light.
 
This is a very good point and the one that Felgy cannot seem to get into his fat head; the reason the Patriots scored less with Moss has to do with the competition not because of some ridiculous Moss conspiracy to ruin the team. If Moss was so horrible in the locker room and on the field why do the players coaches and owners love him?

Moss needs a press conference and PR coach but he is the opposite of Felger woud have us believe.

Have to agree cousin. This Team was a better Team with Moss. Does BB adapt well? Yes. The actual figures show that the Pats and Vikes actually were better offensively with Moss than without him. Please check if you can read Mr. Felger. He was well loved in our locker room. Felger must have gotten stiffed by Moss. I am more qualified to write than he is. Someone please tell me did this numskull go to journalism school or did the newspaper sports editor pick him off some bar stool.
If Mr. Felfer gets his head out of his anal cavity after he is done kissing it on the way there, he will realize the big loser in all this is Welker. He is pretty pedestrian these days, but Felger won't see that.
Are they a better Team? Absolutely not and anyone who says they are is full of baloney. They have compensated, they have done well but the defense and special Teams have made most of the difference.
So let's pile on Mr. Moss because he needs a speech writer. He was irritated here because he wanted to stay, not leave. He was still not a locker room problem. Pout? Maybe.We all have to deal with disappointment and that is how he deals with it.

Good Read by Kerry Byrne points out:
So what’s changed for these two teams since the trade? Nothing, really.

*
The Patriots were a good, solid machine with Moss: they went 3-1, losing only at the tough division rival Jets.
*
They’re a good, solid machine without Moss: 3-0 including wins over likely AFC playoff teams at San Diego and at home vs. Baltimore. If anything, they're better.
*
The Vikings were a sputtering team without Moss: they were 1-2 with the only win at home against the lowly Lions.
*
The Vikings are a sputtering team with Moss: 1-3 with the only victory a gift at home against the disastrous Cowboys. If anything, they're worse.

Now, keep in mind that we are not bashing Moss. He is, without a doubt, one of the all-time great wide receivers and, as far as we’re concerned, a first ballot-lock for the Hall of Fame. He's a brilliant peformer, but a brilliant performer at a position that has only a negilible impact on the performance of any team.

Being a brilliant performer, it is true that Moss has had an unusually large impact by the standards of the position. It's no coincidence that he's the one constant between the two highest-scoring offenses in NFL history: the 1998 Vikings (556 points) and the 2007 Patriots (589 points).

He's even had an impact on the offense of both the Patriots and Vikings here in 2010:

*
The Vikings averaged 14.3 PPG in three games without Moss; they’ve averaged 21.5 PPG in four games with Moss.
*
The Patriots averaged 32.8 PPG in four games with Moss; they’ve averaged 24.7 PPG game in three games without Moss.
*
The Minnesota offense averaged 5.21 yards per play without Moss; it’s averaged 5.45 yards per play with Moss.
*
The New England offense averaged 5.74 yards per play with Moss; it’s averaged 5.05 yards per play without Moss.

Despite some quantifiable statistical changes in performance, the teams are largely the same at the end of the day.

DW Toys
Take him back after getting a third? Stupid if we don't if the price is right.
 
Now Felger is being obnoxious because he thinks he is a sage and that the Patriots are better off without Randy Moss.

Do you know what his proof is? The proof is that "everyone" is on board with the Patriots being better off. You know who is "everyone" is? Dan Shaughnessy and Gerry Callahan both wrote columns saying the same idiotic thing so this is proof! Three out of the leading douche quartet in Boston media (Hey Borges time to jump on this bandwagon) all think that the Patriots are better off without Moss. Wow some proof.

I am starting to think that Felger doesn't watch the games. Just reads the columns of other douches. Can't he see how compressed the field is? The Patriots have to claw for every yard and eek out points since Moss left.

the pats are better without moss so are the vikings. they traded and waived his sorry ass because hes a complete cement head in need of some serious couch time with a metal health professional. felger is right your are completely wrong.
 
FredFromDartmouth: Setting the stupidity bar even lower

Great line. So you are saying you agree with Felger? Felger calls Moss "the turd in the punchbowl". Real classy guy.

Felger was at it again today spewing bile and ignorance over the air waves. Seems like he is OK with Ray Lewis but not Brandon Merriwether. Hmmm.
 
Great line. So you are saying you agree with Felger? Felger calls Moss "the turd in the punchbowl". Real classy guy.

Felger was at it again today spewing bile and ignorance over the air waves. Seems like he is OK with Ray Lewis but not Brandon Merriwether. Hmmm.

He must have said turd in the pucnh bowl 500 times in the last 2-3 days.
I actually agree with Felger but I have an issue with him blowing his own horn the 1 time out of 100 that hes right on something.
 
I enjoy Felger/Mazz. They cover a lot of different Football topics per day (usually).

As for Felger in particular, his opinion is based on 'something' and, IMO, worth listening to. Even when I disagree (or partially/mostly agree), it's worth my time to hear him out. In fact, I rarely change the channel during the afternoon. The late guy on 98.5 and Mazz are in this category, as is Zolak.
 
I enjoy Felger/Mazz. They cover a lot of different Football topics per day (usually).

As for Felger in particular, his opinion is based on 'something' and, IMO, worth listening to. Even when I disagree (or partially/mostly agree), it's worth my time to hear him out. In fact, I rarely change the channel during the afternoon. The late guy on 98.5 and Mazz are in this category, as is Zolak.

Wow ... :bricks::bricks::bricks:
 
The guy's been saying for a long time he'd rather have Branch than Moss, and he got blasted for it. Now that the switch has been made, pretty much everyone's happy.

He's entitled to crow about it a little.
 
Michael Felger is absolutely correct. The Pats are better without Moss and Felger knew this before all others. Try not to resist the genius that is Felger. Walk towards the light.
Mola Ram: You don't believe me, Dr. Jones? You will, Dr. Jones. You will become a true believer.
 
This is how they won in 2001 and 2003 every game was a battle. We were spoiled by 2007 we forgot these games were won by coaching and execution by the players. I love this as Mazzerotti said today on the radio we lost our soul the way we use to win now people are complaining about the offense. Moss has been gone for a month now and they are averaging 28 points a game and improving defensively with each game. I don't know how far they will go this year but what i love about this year is that i am watching a team being built before my very eyes with youth and six pretty good draft picks coming up.

You are right on the money. Folks who complain that they lost their way are missing the point of the Patriot Way. This is how it is. This blowing teams out 52-0 in '07 blinded people. THIS is Patriot football. Well coached, well executed, just eeking out wins.
 
Mola Ram: You don't believe me, Dr. Jones? You will, Dr. Jones. You will become a true believer.

Dude, that is the WORST Indiana Jones movie of all. I can't believe you rolled out a Mola Ram reference. :youtheman:
 
He's even had an impact on the offense of both the Patriots and Vikings here in 2010:

*
The Vikings averaged 14.3 PPG in three games without Moss; they’ve averaged 21.5 PPG in four games with Moss.
*
The Patriots averaged 32.8 PPG in four games with Moss; they’ve averaged 24.7 PPG game in three games without Moss.
*
The Minnesota offense averaged 5.21 yards per play without Moss; it’s averaged 5.45 yards per play with Moss.
*
The New England offense averaged 5.74 yards per play with Moss; it’s averaged 5.05 yards per play without Moss.

Despite some quantifiable statistical changes in performance, the teams are largely the same at the end of the day.

That is not true when taking into account the defensive/st touchdowns scored. They were avg 24 ppg offensively with Moss. They are the same with or without moss
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
MORSE: Patriots Mock Draft 6 – A Week Before the Draft
TRANSCRIPT: Eliot Wolf Pre-Draft Press Conference 4/13
Patriots News 04-12, What To Watch For In The NFL Draft
MORSE: Pre-Draft Patriots News and Notes
MORSE: Patriots Mock Draft 5
MORSE: Patriots Mock Draft 5
Mark Morse
1 week ago
Patriots Part Ways with Another Linebacker as Offseason Roster Shake-Up Continues
Patriots News 04-05, Mock Draft 2.0, Patriots Look For OL Depth
MORSE: 18 Game Schedule and Other Patriots Notes
TRANSCRIPT: Mike Vrabel Press Conference at the League Meetings 3/31
MORSE: Smokescreens and Misinformation Leading Up to Patriots Draft
Back
Top