Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

[BradyFTW!]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Hate to put a damper on the celebrations, but the days of "Rudy" and "Charlie Tolar's of the old AFL" are gone. As much as this guy is probably a hard worker, he will get mnurdered in the NFL of today.

We'll probably get what info we can get for this week and then wish him luck, and say thanks. He can now tell his grandkids that you played in the NFL.

Also, I am amazed that BB would pull this kind of a stunt and feed the Jets locker room material.

The Jets played poorly, they do not want to lose two straight, at home, to open the season, and have many incentives going into this game that they need to fulfill. This little, meaningless, move will add more fuel to their fire.

I hope it does not backfire in BB's face. There was very little to gain from this move, if anything at all, and more, much more, to lose.

Does anyone here really think he is gonna stick?

Eh, what's the worst that can happen? I don't care how fired up you are, lazy and undisciplined is lazy and undisciplined. And even if they suddenly become more swaggerlicious than ever before, I still doubt that'll be what decides the game.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

That isn't the "Voice of Reason." It's one person's opinion.

Rex Ryan and the Jets are definitely not the brightest bulbs when it comes to roster management. Not to mention that they have more EGOS than a Narcissist Convention on that team and it's clear that Rexy is doing whatever he can to placate them.

They tabbed McKnight as their "Goto" guy for the 3rd down back, unceremoniously jettisoning Pats Killer, Leon Washington. So, for them, Woodhead was extraneous. Woodhead doesn't have a ton of size, so, as people mentioned, he's not great except in the slot where the Jets already have people they like.

Woodhead has not really shown a propensity for returning kicks or punts and he wasn't used that way in college. Also, we already have Brandon Tate for that and he comes as advertised.

Belichick has regularly brought in players 1 year ahead of when they were "needed." In some cases, they were forced into starting situations before they were ready, but many times, the year of learning helped.

As a potential 3rd down back, Woodhead has what it takes. And he's got, arguably, the best 3rd down back in the game to learn from in Faulk.

Woodhead may not see the field for the Pats, but don't think that it means he's not valuable. Too many people ignorantly think that. Yet, time and again the Pats have acknowledged people who helped them prepare for an opponent, but didn't actually play. Damon Huard received the game ball in 2003 for his work as "Peyton Manning" during the team's practice prior to them destroying the Colts in the Conference Championship. Marquise Hill was given credit numerous times for his ability to help the team get ready for games. The team gives out the "black jersey" to players who excel during the week in helping the team prep.

Woodhead has the potential and he's not got a great RB Coach, a fantastic head coach and 2 great players to mentor him. The tools are in place for him to succeed. Only time will tell if he does or not. It's stupid of people to downplay optimism. It shows a lack of foresight and really shows a lack of understanding of the game.

Well played DB. This signing seems like more than a 1 week pick up.

 

[alamo]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

If he does stick for a while but not through the season, expect the Jets to pick him up again. I don't see how the Pats could limit his access to inside information, though I suppose they could simply IR him with a slight injury excuse if they didn't want him on the roster any longer but wanted him off the market.

 

[Lansdowne]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Woodhead signing as "locker room material"?

What?

I'm sorry but the Jets knew the risk when they cut him. They weren't worried enough about the Pats to keep him on board. This won't motivate them any more than they already are. That's just grasping at straws.

Kevin O'Connell last year. Did the Pats use that as "locker room material"? Maybe, maybe not. Did it make a difference for the Pats? Heck no.

I say don't worry about it. Don't be afraid of the big bad Jets getting their panties in a bunch over a guy they just cut.

 

[RyanP421]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

LOL, too funny

So why did the Pats wait until after week 1 to release Murrell?

Can you biased homers be any more pathetic.

Woodhead is a nice scrappy player who plays his ass off, but doesn't have NFL level skill, he's tough, actually a great PS type of player because he can do a number of things on the scout team, he can catch, but stop trying to spin this into more than what it is, paranoid Bill needs all the intel he can get, he can't use his cameras anymore, so this is the next best thing.

Can you be any more of an ignorant moron?

BB paranoid? What? I think you have it backwards...Rex Ryan seems to be pretty damn paranoid to me. Pretty much all the time. The dude is terrified of failure. And in case you forgot the Jets signed O'Connell ONLY to gain knowledge of the Patriots' offense. How is that not being paranoid? You stupid Jets fans seem to be taking on the delusional ways of your outspoken idiot for a head coach.

Keep telling yourself what you want about the Patriots signing Woodhead. He's a good player, and he will be on the Patriots roster and he wil contribute.


Learn something about footbal and quit developing your personality by following Rex Ryan's...

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

I didnt notice your first comment when I responded to your post. Who is MJD? Seriously,I dont know what you mean.

I think he's referring to Maurice Jones-Drew, another vertically challenged RB.
As for Woodhead, I think Rex intended that he would be part of the Jets "shadow roster" calling him back if things didn't work out with Clowney or others. He likely didn't think another team, especially not the Pats would pick him up. His comments on Hard Knocks were that he thought the kid had talent and potential and could help the team but was caught in a numbers crunch.

 

[woolster22]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

I think he's referring to Maurice Jones-Drew, another vertically challenged RB.
As for Woodhead, I think Rex intended that he would be part of the Jets "shadow roster" calling him back if things didn't work out with Clowney or others. He likely didn't think another team, especially not the Pats would pick him up. His comments on Hard Knocks were that he thought the kid had talent and potential and could help the team but was caught in a numbers crunch.

then why give him the snaps he did in week one? o distinctly remember him looking like a viable option for the pass on a couple plays in the third last week (could be mistaken, but he made some good moves from the slot). If this was the case he would have been much better off dumping him before week one, and keeping Clowney against a good run-d ravens team. Also, if he really thought Woodhead was worth keeping around why sing his praises on a TV program that is televised across the country. The kid is explosive, and seems to have a knack for making plays. the comparisons to Faulk arent all that far off. He is NFL fast, but more importantly NFL QUICK. If he can learn the art of the blitz pick-up, he has all sorts of potential. then again, having potential and reaching potential are two very different things. Not sure why, but when I watched him play i got the feeling he could be a Troy Brown-esque emergency CB, but maybe thats the lack of sleep talking. When I saw someone on here throw his name out for Black Glass' replacement (will never forget that SOB running out of bounds short of the sticks on third when the 1st could have been had with minimal contact) I was certaintly on board, heres to hoping it works out!

 

[moosekill]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

With due respect to your opinion, something like this, absolutely, could be fodder for some sort of locker room material, depending on how it is said to the players in the loker room, if said at all. Ryan could definitley suggest to his players, to get them pissed off, that BB did this solely for the purpose of "cheating" again as he did with the video cameras.

You and I, and most others know that this is not so, but it still could be force fed to the players and it could get them pissed off. Whether it would carry over to a positive effect on the field, no one really knows.

How do you know that he is, or might be in their long term plans, how do you know if BB has, or has not, had him on his radar since 2008.

I said, and I quote, that "I hope it does not backfire in BB's face" I never said that it would, but truth be told, there is always that possibility anytime anyone leaves the door open for it to happen with what could be locker room
material. The term "locker room material" has been used everywhere, including this forum.

Neither you nor I know any of the facts. What we do have are opinions, and that is the purpose of these message boards. If we all agreed with everyone, all the time, thee would be no need for these forums, right?

And, I answer your questions with honesty and say, yes, the door has been opened, albeit slightly, for locker room material, and we all know that there have always been instances were locker room material has given a team added incentive to perform at a higher level.

Will that happen tomorrow in the Meadowlands? Probably not.

Fair answers to your questions?

Please please lord make the insanity end.

 

[DaBruinz]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

I didnt notice your first comment when I responded to your post. Who is MJD? Seriously,I dont know what you mean.

Maurice Jones Drew - 5'6 200 lb running back. Plays for Jacksonville.. Probably the best RB from the 2006 draft..

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Maurice Jones Drew - 5'6 200 lb running back. Plays for Jacksonville.. Probably the best RB from the 2006 draft..

Blue hates short people

 

[DaBruinz]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

With due respect to your opinion, something like this, absolutely, could be fodder for some sort of locker room material, depending on how it is said to the players in the loker room, if said at all. Ryan could definitley suggest to his players, to get them pissed off, that BB did this solely for the purpose of "cheating" again as he did with the video cameras.

First off, there was no "cheating" with the video cameras. The only issue with them was their location. And, as I pointed out to our esteemed Jets fan, the Jets were doing the exact same thing in the exact same game that they turned the Pats in for. But because of Goodell's bias, they weren't punished..

I'm sorry, but your explanation is rather weak as how this could be locker-rrom material. Especially considering what the Jets pulled last year with O'Connell.

You and I, and most others know that this is not so, but it still could be force fed to the players and it could get them pissed off. Whether it would carry over to a positive effect on the field, no one really knows.

How do you know that he is, or might be in their long term plans, how do you know if BB has, or has not, had him on his radar since 2008.

*ROFLMAO* Clearly you missed the point of my questions. The point was to show you how there are plenty of plausible possibilities and none of us know what BB is truly thinking. Unlike you, who was so adamant in your negative statements about Woodhead, I took a more flexible and optimistic view using words like could and possibly. I wasn't pretending to know what Belichick was thinking with this move. But I offered an extremely plausible option based on what we know about Belichick, about how he tries to brink in replacements in advance of when they are needed and what he looks for in the types of players he signs.

I said, and I quote, that "I hope it does not backfire in BB's face" I never said that it would, but truth be told, there is always that possibility anytime anyone leaves the door open for it to happen with what could be locker room
material. The term "locker room material" has been used everywhere, including this forum.

I know what you said and you still haven't explained yourself. I questioned your statements. Ones that you made that clearly show you think that there could be something bad that comes from the Pats filling their #5 RB slot. All you have done is avoid answering the questions asked of you.

Neither you nor I know any of the facts. What we do have are opinions, and that is the purpose of these message boards. If we all agreed with everyone, all the time, thee would be no need for these forums, right?

Wrong. I know plenty of facts. And I use them as the basis for formulating my opinions. You may just throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks and hope no one calls you on it, but that's not me.

Again, all you have done with your statement is show that you didn't bother to really put any thought into it. You just made your statements and hoped no one would call you on them..

And, I answer your questions with honesty and say, yes, the door has been opened, albeit slightly, for locker room material, and we all know that there have always been instances were locker room material has given a team added incentive to perform at a higher level.

Will that happen tomorrow in the Meadowlands? Probably not.

Fair answers to your questions?

No. You haven't answered my questions. You've not answered how the signing of Woodhead could be locker-room material. You've not said how it could backfire on Belichick or on the Patriots.. And you seemed to have ignored what other people have suggested could happen with the signing of Woodhead. That the Jets could be forced to change their offensive calls for blocking assignments and such which could cause problems with it being at the last minute. My only problem with that idea is that Woodhead was released on Tuesday and we don't know if he was around when the calls for this week were assigned in the game planning meeting or not.

 

[DaBruinz]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Nothing personal, but I, highly, doubt it. There is, without a doubt, a game being played here. I can here BB snickering now.

Wait a minute. How do you know that there is a game being played here?

One minute you are trying to sound like you aren't being overly negative and that you aren't certain and the next you are contradicting yourself by claiming it's some game.


You seriously need to get your story straight because you look silly when you go back and forth in just a few posts..

 

[Uncle Rico]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Question on this: Could the Pats have signed Woodhead earlier in the week and just not announced it til Saturday? Anyone know the rules on this? I'm curious when the Pats were able to talk to him and get info from him.

 

[Ryan]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Some of you guys need to stop getting your hopes so high up. I really doubt this guy turns out to be Faulk 2.0 or the next Welker or whatever. Is it possible? Sure, but a lot of you are acting like it's pretty much a guarantee that this guy can fill those roles. I'm not so sure he lasts on the roster very long. Seems like they signed him to gain info and for a little gamesmanship. The Pats have done it numerous times over the years.

 

[DaBruinz]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Some of you guys need to stop getting your hopes so high up. I really doubt this guy turns out to be Faulk 2.0 or the next Welker or whatever. Is it possible? Sure, but a lot of you are acting like it's pretty much a guarantee that this guy can fill those roles. I'm not so sure he lasts on the roster very long. Seems like they signed him to gain info and for a little gamesmanship. The Pats have done it numerous times over the years.

Sorry, Ryan, but you and the others are the ones who need to take it down a notch because you aren't reading what is actually posted. Most people have shown optimism, but I don't see anyone guaranteeing anything. Unlike the naysayers who all seem to think that there is nothing to gain by having signed Woodhead.

One of things that people like about Woodhead is his work ethic. And BB clearly showed that work ethic means more to him right now than pure talent. One of the many things people like about Woodhead is that he's a very intelligent player. He's not just a workout warrior. He's a player who is always striving to get better.

I am fairly certain you can count on one hand the number of players the Pats have signed from other teams for "1 game" in an attempt to glean information on the opponent.

I believe the general consensus is that this signing has the potential to work out great. And if it doesn't, it's only the #5 RB spot. A spot that is generally inactive during games..

 

[Off The Grid]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Hate to put a damper on the celebrations, but the days of "Rudy" and "Charlie Tolar's of the old AFL" are gone. As much as this guy is probably a hard worker, he will get murdered in the NFL of today.

Good point. I'VE never heard of Mojo Drew or Darren Spoles, EITHER.

This little, meaningless, move will add more fuel to their fire. I hope it does not backfire in BB's face. There was very little to gain from this move, if anything at all, and more, much more, to lose.

Yeah, I'm sure his intimate knowledge of the Jet's PlayBook ~ in addition to his skills and his passion ~ will have NO impact on this game. :bricks: :bricks: :bricks:

 

[patsinthesnow]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

So, will Mr. Wood be active today? It would be awesome if we threw him a screen pass and he went 30 yards with it, Rex's face.

 

[Off The Grid]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

That isn't the "Voice of Reason." It's one person's opinion.

Rex Ryan and the Jets are definitely not the brightest bulbs when it comes to roster management. Not to mention that they have more EGOS than a Narcissist Convention on that team and it's clear that Rexy is doing whatever he can to placate them.

They tabbed McKnight as their "Goto" guy for the 3rd down back, unceremoniously jettisoning Pats Killer, Leon Washington. So, for them, Woodhead was extraneous. Woodhead doesn't have a ton of size, so, as people mentioned, he's not great except in the slot where the Jets already have people they like.

Woodhead has not really shown a propensity for returning kicks or punts and he wasn't used that way in college. Also, we already have Brandon Tate for that and he comes as advertised.

Belichick has regularly brought in players 1 year ahead of when they were "needed." In some cases, they were forced into starting situations before they were ready, but many times, the year of learning helped.

As a potential 3rd down back, Woodhead has what it takes. And he's got, arguably, the best 3rd down back in the game to learn from in Faulk.

Woodhead may not see the field for the Pats, but don't think that it means he's not valuable. Too many people ignorantly think that. Yet, time and again the Pats have acknowledged people who helped them prepare for an opponent, but didn't actually play. Damon Huard received the game ball in 2003 for his work as "Peyton Manning" during the team's practice prior to them destroying the Colts in the Conference Championship. Marquise Hill was given credit numerous times for his ability to help the team get ready for games. The team gives out the "black jersey" to players who excel during the week in helping the team prep.

Woodhead has the potential and he's not got a great RB Coach, a fantastic head coach and 2 great players to mentor him. The tools are in place for him to succeed. Only time will tell if he does or not.

It's stupid of people to downplay optimism. It shows a lack of foresight and really shows a lack of understanding of the game.

Beautifull, beautifull post, Bro.

 

[Off The Grid]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

Woodhead signing as "locker room material"?

What?

I'm sorry but the Jets knew the risk when they cut him. They weren't worried enough about the Pats to keep him on board. This won't motivate them any more than they already are. That's just grasping at straws.

Kevin O'Connell last year. Did the Pats use that as "locker room material"? Maybe, maybe not. Did it make a difference for the Pats? Heck no.

I say don't worry about it. Don't be afraid of the big bad Jets getting their panties in a bunch over a guy they just cut.

Perfect!! The notion is ridiculous.

 

[Off The Grid]

re: Danny Woodhead: Faulk 2.0??? (merged old and new)

I didnt notice your first comment when I responded to your post. Who is MJD? Seriously,I dont know what you mean.

Good Lord, All Mighty.