Why all the Barwin love?

[carolinatony]

I will admit I never seen him play so why is he so high on this board? I'm on board for mostly defense this draft and for sure want a LB.
What talent would be bring to us over some other top LB's? I'll be watching the draft so if we pick him I want to know why I'll be cheering
thanks

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

I've seen him play.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Ive seen him play in person but I wasn't that impressed at first. He honestly doesn't look like a first rounder to me but as I watched his play on videos and I think he is a mid second round talent. I think people here love him so much is because he is clean, versatile, and he has high upside. I agree with all of these assessments but I don't think he can make much of an impact his rookie year and that's what I want in a first rounder, impact the game. He had good production in his first year on D and kind of looks like Vrabs so both of those help his cause .

 

[VJCPatriot]

Here's some video.

VIDEO: DE Connor BarwinHighlights - Arrowhead Pride

 

[apple strudel]

Outstanding. opcorn:

 

[stinkypete]

Some thoughts after watching the Barwin video. Barwin is a freak of an athelete, we've never had speed close to that at the OLB position. That said, his play looks a little bit reckless. On several of the highlights he took poor angles or misread the offense. In most cases he could recover because athletically speaking he was a man among boys.

Also, his tackling technique looked dangerous. He seemed to be flailing around everywhere.

Those faults are coachable. His pass rush moves are excellent. He has motor and finishes plays.

I like him anytime after pick 40.

 

[efeene]

So I open up my paper this morning.. Portland Press Herald.. and front page of sports section has a top half size picture of Barwin making a tackle in college and a big story on him haha.. I just laughed and laughed.. the Barwin bug is spreading

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

Barwin is the most versatile player in the draft thats why hes ranked so high on our draft board and everyone else's.

 

[AzPatsFan]

I will admit I never seen him play so why is he so high on this board? I'm on board for mostly defense this draft and for sure want a LB.
What talent would be bring to us over some other top LB's? I'll be watching the draft so if we pick him I want to know why I'll be cheering
thanks

Because this board always falls in love with a player. This year it is Barwin. I agree he can be a very good player for the Pats ... in 2011, maybe,if he makes the transition. There are only two positions that a draftee could start for the Pats, as a rookie. At ILB, and possibly, but its is a stretch, at CB. So the first round pick ought by rights, be one of those two positions. Right?

 

[patsfan1251]

Barwin no thanks. From everything that I've seen of him he is truly a project. I wouldn't be happy selecting him until the 3rd round. He looks like a pretty good athlete nothing more. He does not have any pass rushing moves from the film i saw of him. He is always allowing the OL to get their hands on them. He only uses his speed to try to get the edge; but he has terrible hands at the point of attack. He looks like a good athlete again but id rather have a shawn crable.

 

[mayoclinic]

What's the over/under on how many posts it will take before the moderators kill this thread? Do we really need more discussion of the merits and possible drawbacks to Connor Barwin?

 

[mcsully]

Video is weak.. half of it is against RUTGERS.. I could wipe around them to make a play..

Do I want Barwin.. YES..

Do I think we should spend a 1st round pick on a guy that has limited time playing OLB.. HELL NO


Our draft picks, 4 out of 6, need to be hits.. ANd the best way to reach this goal is not to draft the Chad Jacksons of the world..

I rather see us draft guys with a lower ceiling but with a higher floor..

 

[TriplecHamp]

Video is weak.. half of it is against RUTGERS.. I could wipe around them to make a play..

Do I want Barwin.. YES..

Do I think we should spend a 1st round pick on a guy that has limited time playing OLB.. HELL NO


Our draft picks, 4 out of 6, need to be hits.. ANd the best way to reach this goal is not to draft the Chad Jacksons of the world..

I rather see us draft guys with a lower ceiling but with a higher floor..

I agree with your view on Barwin. But I totally disagree with your view on RU!.....Im going their

 

[jays52]

Dude, have you seen my sig? That's really all you need to know...unless you swing that way...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Barwin presents a true football player. High motor, tremendous footwork and hand placement. He takes natural angles, understands how lanes change during the passing game and has a true nose for the football. He seems to be fairly bright. He will be a beast in the kicking game immediately and likely a solid contributor situationally on offense while he learns the position. Further he is the only candidate for the transition whom we know for a fact is adept at playing in space and cutting/planting. Combine this with Lawrence Taylor type athleticism and you begin to understand the Barwin love. Last, and not to sound like a ****, but from the reading I have done on this forum, one's rating of Barwin is directly proportional to their football knowledge.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Last, and not to sound like a ****, but from the reading I have done on this forum, one's rating of Barwin is directly proportional to their football knowledge.

There's a lot of "experts", nationally, not on this board, who you seem to claim have little knowledge. I guess we'll find out but it's mostly the high school girl syndrome that wants him at #23. Ooooh, Conner, we have to have you.

 

[TriplecHamp]

There's a lot of "experts", nationally, not on this board, who you seem to claim have little knowledge. I guess we'll find out but it's mostly the high school girl syndrome that wants him at #23. Ooooh, Conner, we have to have you.

Thats cold....Ahahaha

 

[jays52]

There's a lot of "experts", nationally, not on this board, who you seem to claim have little knowledge. I guess we'll find out but it's mostly the high school girl syndrome that wants him at #23. Ooooh, Conner, we have to have you.

Right. Like when two months ago Football Expert Wes Bunting ranked Everette Brown as his #1 OLB prospect. I called him an undersized 43 RE who was a one trick pony and openly questioned what Bunting knew about evaluating football players. He took a class. A private sector scout class. That's like getting a degree from ITT Tech and calling yourself Michael Porter. I was chastized by quite a few people, and in fact, told I don't know what I was talking about. Now the media's collectively chirping about the massive fuggin revelation that Brown is suddenly an undersized 43 RE. I know I come off as a dilletante know it all, but that's really not what I'm going for. I do a pretty horrific job of conveying tone on message boards and it's mostly frustration that the so called experts are misleading so many people. I certainly don't know everything, in fact I have only a cursory knowledge compared to our really high level posters like Box, Mayo, Unkey Heatster and Patchick. I just feel strongly about certain players because I have seen them play and understand what to look for in a football player.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Right. Like when two months ago Football Expert Wes Bunting ranked Everette Brown as his #1 OLB prospect. I called him an undersized 43 RE who was a one trick pony and openly questioned what Bunting knew about evaluating football players. He took a class. A private sector scout class. That's like getting a degree from ITT Tech and calling yourself Michael Porter. I was chastized by quite a few people, and in fact, told I don't know what I was talking about. Now the media's collectively chirping about the massive fuggin revelation that Brown is suddenly an undersized 43 RE. I know I come off as a dilletante know it all, but that's really not what I'm going for. I do a pretty horrific job of conveying tone on message boards and it's mostly frustration that the so called experts are misleading so many people. I certainly don't know everything, in fact I have only a cursory knowledge compared to our really high level posters like Box, Mayo, Unkey Heatster and Patchick. I just feel strongly about certain players because I have seen them play and understand what to look for in a football player.

Look, whatever, I don't really care what you think of me or others but to pretend you and some guy who calls himself Box are the only ones who know anything about football because you like your little Connor is silly. Most, not all, experts think Barwin is a reach in the first round. I like the guy - I like his versatility, athleticism and attitude - but I don't want him at #23 where I am more concerned about a high floor than a high ceiling. Maybe some know a lot more about football technique than I do but some people can also get buried in the details and as I have said a million times, the Patriots' relatively safe drafting history in round one under Belichick makes Barwin distinctly unlikely to be drafted by us at #23; the closest we have drafted to that type of athlete in round 1 could be Ben Watson at #32 but even he didn't have just one year at his position.

Anyway, when Belichick doesn't draft Barwin at #23 you can call him stupid too

 

[mayoclinic]

Guys, this is turning into a pissing contest, and is not worthy of this board or of yourselves. Stop it.

I'm a big Barwin fan. I've stated my views why on many previous threads. There's nothing to add at this late date. And I have better things to do than to cry if BB decides to go in another direction.

Let's all move on.

 

[jays52]

Look, whatever, I don't really care what you think of me or others but to pretend you and some guy who calls himself Box are the only ones who know anything about football because you like your little Connor is silly. Most, not all, experts think Barwin is a reach in the first round. I like the guy - I like his versatility, athleticism and attitude - but I don't want him at #23 where I am more concerned about a high floor than a high ceiling. Maybe some know a lot more about football technique than I do but some people can also get buried in the details and as I have said a million times, the Patriots' relatively safe drafting history in round one under Belichick makes Barwin distinctly unlikely to be drafted by us at #23; the closest we have drafted to that type of athlete in round 1 could be Ben Watson at #32 but even he didn't have just one year at his position.

Anyway, when Belichick doesn't draft Barwin at #23 you can call him stupid too

I hear what you're saying and honestly think that we're more in agreement than we are disagreement. I just like Connor Barwin the football player, not as any particular draft pick. I also like Larry English, Louis Delmas, William Beatty, Tyson Jackson, Darius Butler, Jason Phillips, Ron Brace (coached him when I was helping out during my highschool's camp...solid kid), Juaquin Iglesias, Cornelius Ingram and Pat White. I would love the Pats to get any of those players at any stage in the draft. I have no bloody clue what the Patriots are going to do, I just like the players I like and to play amateur hour projection boy. Whomever the Patriots do take, I'm sure I will promptly put my foot in my mouth, take my lumps on here like a man and root for the guy like any true fanboy should.