Who Would Likely Help Us Most in 2009?

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  1. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    It would seem that at least one Day One pick could be used for a player that projects to help us a lot in 2009. There are plenty of picks that will be focused on the future.

    Who would you put on the list to help us win the Super Bowl THIS YEAR / Of course, this player would also help us in the future since he would have a 4-6 year contract.

    For example, even if we pick Barwin at 34, we still might pick Matthews or Laurinitis or Maualuga (not my choice) at 23 or trade up for Brown or Orapko.

    I would hate for us to have no focus on the 2009 season.

    My focus is on linebacker because I believe that a linebacker who is ready could even start. We have starters all but set at all the other positions on both offense and defense.
  2. BelichickFan

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    I think it's Maualuga or one of the OT. We could upgrade over Kaczur. We also could find a place for an ILB to have a noticeable role with Bruschi/Guyton.

    The OLB are interesting in a pass rush role but I'd like to think Crable could also be ready for that (if not there's a problem there) and I doubt a rookie switching positions would be more than a pass rusher at OLB as a rookie.
  3. bakes781

    bakes781 In the Starting Line-Up

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    The easiest position to transfer immediately from the college game to the Pros is RB. So a guy like Knowshon could have an immediate impact on this team, but then again potentially so could a Rashad Jennings in the 3rd.

    If you're soley looking at OLB, then I'd say Clint Sintim is the closest to being NFL ready since he's played the position.
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2009
  4. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Crable, ideally, could be a big contributor on third downs. I know he played against scrubs in preseason for the most part, but he seemed to have some instincts for both pass rush and pass coverage. If he's healthy and bulked up a bit, I think he'll contribute.

    As for the draft question, I think you're right about the OT, if for no other reason than, IMO, linemen (both O and D) tend to be able to start sooner than other positions in the NFL.
  5. mayoclinic

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    I don't think we want to think in terms of a rookie helping us in 2009. I think we draft for the long term. BB has clearly gone to great pains to fill holes in FA such that we specifically don't need any holes to be filled in the draft.

    Consider our current roster at the different positions:

    QB - no room for a rookie here.
    RB - no room for a rookie here.
    WR - no real room for a rookie here. Possible a more pro-ready player like Nicks could make a difference, or a situational player like Harvin, but in all likelihood they wouldn't break the starting lineup.
    TE - no real room for a rookie here.
    OT - no real room for a rookie here, in terms of starting. Kaczur could be upgraded at RT by someone like Smith or Oher, or possibly Britton. Beatty is likely to be a pure LT and only a backup for 2009.
    DT - no real room for a rookie here, except as a backup to Wilfork.
    DE - no real starting room here. Seymour and Warren are the starters. Great potential after 2009 if Seymour leaves.
    OLB - potential for a situation pass rusher to make an impact here.
    ILB - potential here to break the lineup with Bruschi aging fast, unless Guyton steps up.
    S - probably won't start in 2009, but potential here to get significant playing time and possibly become a starter in 2010.
    CB - no real room for a rookie here.
  6. Revman

    Revman Practice Squad Player

    Here are the players that would help the most right away:

    1. Maualuga- ILB- Could start from day one. Would be a true run stuffer to grow with Mayo.

    2. Alex Mack- Ctr- The only NFL ready interior lineman. He could start from camp, like Mayo, and contribute without a dip in o-line protection.

    3. Sherrod Martin-cb-Troy- Will improve cb depth, eventually start. I am really stepping out on a limb here. You will remember this pick later. Probable Round 2-3 pick for Pat's.
  7. patchick

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    Actually, I think C/OG has as much NFL-ready talen as any position in the draft. (I like Eric Wood in particular.) And I'd call that my #2 target for likely impact in 2009 -- a day-1 pick could dramatically improve the depth behind all three interior OLs.

    #1 for 2009 impact: safety. Delmas, Chung, Moore, probably Johnson & Vaughn, possibly Hamlin could make an impact on the 2009 backfield.
  8. DW Toys

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    Good assessment. Nice job. I think there are some who could help. I am not saying they are binkies, just feel they could help in 2009. I think TE could be a spot that could get a rookie some PT. Baker is slow and Watson is fast and cannot catch. Thomas is on the bubble and after the Colts game in the BB doghouse it would appear. I like James Casey. This is a copy cat league. The success of Dallas Clark, Whitten and Cooley spread out to almost a slot position would work well for Brady. This kid has got hands and decent speed. We do not have that TE on our roster.
    I don't know how I feel about Maualuga but I think he has a chance to start or take some time from Teddy in a rotation with Guyton? He is the stuffer. Mayo was great but could be pushed head on.
    No if we do not get Peppers or Taylor, I think it could be a good move to consider Michael Johnson of GT in that role.
    Safety will have some playing time for a pick. I like Delmas and if we pick him I think he starts at some time during 2009 but I think that William Moore is going to be picked by the Pats. I feel that more than any other pick. But the dark horse someone else mentioned yesterday was Jason Williams, Western Illinois
    Ht - 6-3, Wt - 235, 40 - 4.49
    Had a great pro day. Impressed scouts with his speed and 26 reps on the bench press.
    Dropped back in coverage well. Can cover. Decent hips. Knock you out hitter.
    The dark horse is this dude as SS. He faster than most of our DBs. Played some Safety at WIU. Maybe the top three SS prospect in the draft as far as speed goes.
    DW Toys
  9. JoeShmoe

    JoeShmoe 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Who would help us most?

    An OT and an OG - because if we lose Neal, Mankins and Light then we probably lose Brady
  10. patsfan13

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    A couple of rookies at LB and Safety who could make an impact on our poor coverage teams from last year.

    Don't see any rookies starting next year.
  11. Feep50

    Feep50 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Aaron Curry could start for us.

    Jason Taylor or Eugene Monroe might start for us....
  12. jsull87

    jsull87 In the Starting Line-Up

    maualuga would start opposite mayo probs after a game or 2. also probably one of the interior lines is 2nd most likley
  13. Box_O_Rocks

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    Give the lady a cigar.
  14. mayoclinic

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    Do you like Wood because of a high ceiling, or a low floor? :disagreement:
  15. patsfan13

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    Jason Taylor isn't in the draft, Curry and Monroe won't be availiale outside the Top 6 and BB ain't moving into that salary range...
  16. patsfan13

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    If his wonderlick score is 15 I don't see him inht emiddle of a bb 3-4.
  17. patchick

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  18. mgteich

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    I don't see the DTD players helping the patriots a lot in 2009. I don't think that the patriots would pick a player with a Wonderlic under 15 given the other fine choices. So, I have taken Maualuga and Delmas off my draft board.

    I agree that offensive lineman are a great opportunity in this draft, especially inside, but this won't make much difference in 2009, except as insurance against an injury inside.

    I believe that the positions where a player could make an immediae difference would be at LB and at S. I would hope that we get two of my list.

    SAFETIES: Chung, Moore, Vaughan, Johnson
    There are a lot of reps for our #3 safety.

    INSIDE LINEBACKER: My choice for immediate help is still Laurinitis.

    OUTSIDE LINEBACKER: Curry will be gone, as will Ayers (if that is relevant).
    Brown, Orapko, Matthews

  19. billdog3484

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    A lot of times, rookie OL are able to come in and start from day 1.

    Eben Britton for example could be available at 23 or 34, and he certainly has the look of a New England Patriots OL. all he needs is a beard and a mullet
  20. AzPatsFan

    AzPatsFan Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    I beleive the day of the TJ runstuffer ILB is dead and gone. You need blitzing, and pass coverage as wel as overall size and tackling ability in an ILB these days. Sintim or Lauranitis and I still like Lauranitis because BB always wants to hit with his First Rounders. He experiments with other picks. Lauranitis is a safe, First Round value pick, at a spot of need.

    Despite his naysayers here.
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