amazinPats
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Maybe a 1-2 year contract then trade him before the second year is out. I think the team can get some decent picks for him. Extend now!!
The way he played last nite, the idea of franchise and tag isn't looking so absurd. He's gotten better every week, and while he still has a lot to work on, he has the most important traits of a good QB - decision making and mental toughness.
I know the transition tag is considered useless, but it wouldn't be the worst thing here. If we transition tagged him with a contract that was somewhat beyond what we truly would want to pay him but nothing outrageous, it would at least guarantee that clubs that were interested would have to sign him to that level of contract, and thus guarantee we'd get a good comp pick the ensuing year.
So, because of 1 game, you now think that Cassel is worth 14.6 million on a 1 year deal? I am fairly certain that neither BB nor Pioli believe this.
I think you are confused about the transition tag. There is no contract offer from the Patriots involved in the transition tag. All the transition tag does is give the Patriots the right of 1st refusal on any contract offers that Cassel gets. In other words, it gives the Pats the right to match that contract and nothing more. And the only thing it guarantees is that the Pats would get some sort of compensatory pick in 2010 IF the Pats didn't sign someone of a similar pay grade.
Not quite. More accurately, "if the Pats have a net loss of quality free agents, AND didn't sign someone of a similar pay grade." If Cassel were the Pats' only loss, and they signed even one semi-decent FA, they'd get nothing for Cassel, except maybe a 7th for a net loss of talent.
So, because of 1 game, you now think that Cassel is worth 14.6 million on a 1 year deal? I am fairly certain that neither BB nor Pioli believe this.
I think you are confused about the transition tag. There is no contract offer from the Patriots involved in the transition tag. All the transition tag does is give the Patriots the right of 1st refusal on any contract offers that Cassel gets. In other words, it gives the Pats the right to match that contract and nothing more. And the only thing it guarantees is that the Pats would get some sort of compensatory pick in 2010 IF the Pats didn't sign someone of a similar pay grade.
Yup, sorry about the transition tag, you're right on that. But, still, the point remains, it would at least guarantee the Pats would be in the running for a comp pick (yes, assuming they don't sign someone of similar pay grade, which I don't think they will).
And its not just one game, Cassel has gotten better each week, and he's been playing at a high level since the St Louis game. I'm just assuming he keeps this level of play up, at which point he will have shown he's decidedly better than at least half of the QBs out there starting. Again, he still wouldn't be worth $14 mill by any stretch, but the tag would be a means to an end.
Whether the Pats use the transition tag or not, they would still be in the running for a comp pick if they lost Cassel.
The ONLY way I see the Patriots using the Franchise tag on Cassel is if Brady is going to miss the entire year next year because of his injury.
The Patriots will Franchise him IF AND ONLY IF they are 100% (maybe 99%) that they could trade him under the one year contract for something - even a future 7th round pick. As long as they can trade him for anything, they can dump that $14M tag number. From there, they can hope to do better and they might just do that if he keeps playing well. But the only lose scenario is tagging him, having him sign the tag and then not being able to dump the one year deal. It's tough to say, from where I sit Cassel would be a good QB to build around and it's a weak QB draft. However there's marginally decent QB out there who can be had like Leftwich, maybe the Bengals would trade Fitzgerald, etc so who knows.The ONLY way I see the Patriots using the Franchise tag on Cassel is if Brady is going to miss the entire year next year because of his injury.
The Patriots will Franchise him IF AND ONLY IF they are 100% (maybe 99%) that they could trade him under the one year contract for something - even a future 7th round pick. As long as they can trade him for anything, they can dump that $14M tag number. From there, they can hope to do better and they might just do that if he keeps playing well. But the only lose scenario is tagging him, having him sign the tag and then not being able to dump the one year deal. It's tough to say, from where I sit Cassel would be a good QB to build around and it's a weak QB draft. However there's marginally decent QB out there who can be had like Leftwich, maybe the Bengals would trade Fitzgerald, etc so who knows.
Yes, Miguel has verified way back that a player who has signed the tag is tradeable.Would the one year deal be transferrable upon a trade? If so, why would any team trade for Cassel with a 14 M price tag? I'm sure teams would be willing to offer Derek Anderson-type money, but not 14 M.
Yes, Miguel has verified way back that a player who has signed the tag is tradeable.
Why would a team do it ? If we asked for a very low price just to dump the $14M, I could see a team doing it to take a look at him and have exclusive negotiating rights for a year. If they have the cap money it's not much of a risk especially if we only get a 2010 #7 back. Of course, much more likely a team would give up more with a long term deal done but, worst case, we'd need to be confident someone would take him on the one year deal. And they might not; if not we get nothing but Cassel was still a well spent #7 pick for us.
Depends on whether we sign other teams' UFAs this offseason. If we don't we could get a #4 comp pick for him as I'm guessing he'll get a nice deal somewhere.Would we not get a comp pick anyways though?