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This was a choke and blame rests on Brady and Belichick

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  1. PF1996

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    Just watched the game again on NFL replay and three things cost us this game:

    1. Brady's inability to read the defense/get his blocking set up correctly.

    2. Brady's inaccuracy. This one kills the most. Forget the early missed throws. On the last series, Brady threw wide of a WIDE OPEN Gaffney, TD - goodnight Giants and then underthrew Moss who had gotten behind the defenders, again that's a sure TD, say goodnight Giants.

    3. Coaching. No reason to send a blitz on Giants last TD. The Pats were getting pressure with 4/5 (thanks Adalius + knowing the Giants had to throw). Also, why continue with the 15 yard cushions when Giants need to convert 3rd and 10? Rushing 4, with tight coverage in the secondary would have won this game for the Pats because besides Plax, the Giants have no receivers that scare you with height/speed. On offense - Pats stopped themselves by getting unnecessarily greedy when the short stuff was moving the chains.

    Giants played hard but the Pats lost this game more than the Giants won it. Oh well. One bright spot about this is that Pats have now completed two of the most embarrassing chokes in sports history. There's no way they can possibly choke any worse in the future so I know this is the lowest I can ever feel as a Pats fan.
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    Neither Brady nor Belichick had their best game Sunday, but this game was lost on the offensive line.

    The Giants D line simply dominated the Patriots O line. Plus, for the second year in a row the Patriots defense couldn't hold the lead.
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    I think they should fire Bill Belichick and trade Tom Brady. :rolleyes:
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    I think the bears are shopping grossman.....
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    Can’t a guy ever constructively criticize our stars without sarcastic comments being thrown at him?
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    I place far more blame on BB and JM (and specifically the OL). I place almost no blame on Brady. The guy got sacked 5 times and knocked down 20. The Giants DL played brilliantly. If you do that to any QB his performance will be affected. Brady also had no running game to speak of, and before the 3 Hail Marys was 29-45. He also took them down for what should have been the GW TD.
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    #24 Jersey

    I can't watch the game and I didn't realize about the Gaffney thing - while you are correct about the Moss throw, it was about 65 yards in the air so it's a little unfair to call it underthrown although another yard would have done it :(
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    I saw Welker wide open as the play was being showed live, it hurt.

    In the end, really disappointing final drive, throwing 3 bombs, when you still had 3 TOs and only a need to get into FG range.
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    The problem is that said poster--who is on my ignore list--has a history of an irrational hatred* for Brady, meting out blame, while not giving him any credit, either. Reading his posts, you'd think Brady's record over the last two seasons is something like 5-27.

    *Maybe there's a better word for it, but I'm blanking on it.
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    When I notice some constructive (and rational) criticism, I'll refrain from being sarcastic.

    The OP's comment was neither.
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    of the 53 players on the field, too say it all rests on the Brady and Belichick is insane.

    but the poster is known for "brilliance" like this. He has said in the past that "Brady will cost them down the road" and that America needs more abortions.

    other than that, he perfectly brilliant. ;)
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  12. Keegs

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    This is something that i agree with.

    It will never be any worse than this... ever again.

    so i guess that's kinda cool.
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    Brady was hurt and had almost no time to throw the ball. He wasn't to blame. There's a few plays where you could point out and say "there's why we lost" but doing that is just nonsense. The Giants made plenty of mistakes also and the Pats had 4 legitimate opportunities to pick off Manning on the final drive but was either a step too fast, a step too slow, or off the fingertips. To me, Eli wasn't TOO impressive over the drive, just made the plays that counted. The "escape" was amazing and the lob pass to Plax, recognizing the blitz and the single coverage, was a smart throw. It was a hard fought game and there were a few injuries that hurt you guys. The Giants were relatively healthy. That's pretty much the biggest reason but it was a GREAT game.
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    the pats lost because of the last series on defense .they had manning in the grasp and had three chances to intercept the ball .that's it in a nut shell .
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    Lol, yes resting all the blame on them may seem a little harsh, but he's free to express his views.
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    true. You let a very below average QB look legendary. thanks A LOT Patriots!!!!
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    did i say he couldnt express his views? He is free to express his views and i am free to call his views insane. ;)
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    wouldn't have mattered since we had no plans to use our kicker in th SB. ;)
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    I blame lekevin smith.
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    Quarterbacks call the "Mike" LB, The O line call thier own blocking depending what play is called and whats infront of them. There talking as much as brady is, in the trenches.
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