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  1. Fencer

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    I'm not one to post calling out a message-board in general -- but c'mon.

    If a professional football player wants to spend time with his kids rather than make the locale of his daily workouts be Foxboro, that's his privilege.

    And if he and his wife choose to raise their kids in some other city than the one where he's on the team, that's their privilege too.

    I come from a small family, without strong geographical roots. But even I was separated from my father for a year or so twice, due to his work. If somebody has a lot of extended family and a travel-heavy job, it might make a lot of sense to leave his wife and kids in the area where the family is.
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    I'm happy for wazza to work out at home as long as he reaches a high level of fitness before tc begins.

    He is a vet he knows how it all works
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    They just better be there for the required parts of the job.

    It IS a job. We keep hearing how it's 'just a business'. Then they're the employees. And they better show up. Or else get fired.
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    the proverbial I have to post to complain about a post that I have the best repsonse to a thread so I'll make a separate thread - thread - post:rocker:
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    The voluntary OTAs are more for the players with less then 3 years experience. The older veterans know the drill and in fact the Pats can work with them so they can "work from home". Most of it is just weight room and film study.
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    He should be there. I wish everyone would stop making excuses for him. yeah... he has kids... BIG DEAL. So do a lot of other guys. Symbolism is very important in a young locker room.
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    Families? They're allowed to have FAMILIES now?? I have to question their devotion to our beloved franchise
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    exactly:):):):):)
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    Yeah, except for the part where they get to retire before they're 40, a luxury many do not have.

    Their offseason is months long. Again, a luxury most do not have.

    They get paid millions of dollars and can afford to fly out to their kids as often as they like or bring them there. Yet again, this is a luxury most do not have.

    So spare me the sob stories. These guys get to spend more time with their families during their career and after than just about anyone else in this country.
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    The Family Argument How do you think MLB players feel about your family defense of NFL players?


    16 games Regular season..... (1 Half) are at home


    baseball is what 164 games?

    FAMILY DEFENSE is weak when you compare it to the MLB


    NBA,NHL have it worse than NFL players in your family defense.
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    Sounds like a Anti-Felger thread lol. that idiot went on TV every day to tell how brady`s is not intrested in football and with a toddler his career is done. then brees blew it up by winning the SB and showed up with his little kid and wife.

    shut that guy up.
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    Brady needs to get back to being the "CEO/Captain of the team/Unquestioned leader." The team will follow his lead, that's just the way it is when you play QB. His role now is very crucial for the upcoming season. The players need to know who the boss is, there can be no question. A lot of success in football depends on leadership and following the leader, football players love certainty. Certainty not only on the football field but in the locker room. You can't be an absentee leader, that’s why it’s so important for Tom to be here in the offseason helping the team develop. The offseason was a big part of his success as a younger player and he needs to get back to those fundamentals. The team will go as he goes, now and during the season. After last offseason where he was away doing rehab he needs to get back to Foxboro and get "his" team back. This is what separated him in the past, he was one of the guys and led by example. You can't talk tough during the season and have the team pay attention unless you grow together during the offseason.
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    heh.....he ain't even the CEO at home
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    Despite what most guys say, most of us aren't CEO's at home. I'm certainly not.:D
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    QFT :)

    You know, if *I* got a high paying job that was going to last for 5+ years out of town, I'd seriously consider moving my family to that area.
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    And I know a lot of people are getting on TFB for not being at the offseason workouts right now but seriously... if you were married to Giselle, would you really not want to spend as much 'quality time' with her as humanly possible??
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    My heart just bleeds for them. They "work" 6-8 months out of the year and make millions of dollars doing it. They play 16 games a year and half of those games are at home... Family is not an excuse. This is a business.

    I think I'm going to tell my boss I need to be with my family for for a few months. I'm sure he would understand : )

    Bottom line is that the team leader should be here especially after coming off a mediocre season for himself and the team.
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    They're called voluntary workouts. If your job ask you to come in voluntarily during the weekend, chances are you're not going to come in.
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    Wrong on so many levels.
    1) They work year-round. Intensive offseason training is mandatory, for most, if you want to stick around in the league.
    2) why does it matter that half of those games are at home? I'm willing to bet that a lot more than 50% of your work is at 'home' (aka in the state that you live in).
    3) Their work is a lot more than showing up for 16 games per year. There's this thing called practice that they show up for too.
    4) Rather than being jealous, maybe you should develop a rare and marketable skill like they have.
    7) Don't analogize your relationship with your boss to Brady's/Warren's with Belichick. Your boss doesn't respect you even 1% that much, but if he did, you'd probably have generated some trust there. Enough that if you wanted to take some time out of voluntary activities for your family, he'd be okay with it.
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    I think the "8 road games per year" comment is meant to be directed at the notion that NFL players "have familes - get over it."

    The point was made that NFL players really do have it pretty easy compared to other professional athletes from a standpoint of missing family time, which I think is a fair point. If you assume a player is going to live with his family within commuting distance of his place of employment, then he really spends very little time away from them. It's basically just 10 weekends per year, give or take the playoffs. Compare that to a baseball player who spends almost all of March in Florida/Arizona plus about 3 months on the road during the season.

    Of course, if our hypothetical football player doesn't live near his place of employment, well then yeah he is going to have to choose between either missing some voluntary practices or spending time away from home.
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    Thank You

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    Not if their kids don't live in the same town where they play.

    I'm not saying we should feel sorry for the players or even their families. I'm just saying the good aspects of their career come with a price, which can lead to some odd-looking tradeoffs being legit.
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    NFL players can make the problem go away by ensuring their families live with them in the town where they play, while MLB and NHL players can't.

    On the other hand, bringing your family with you as an NFL player isn't as obvious a choice -- you're easier to cut, on average you make less money (at least than MLB and NBA players -- probably not NHL), and so on.
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    Nothing will stop the "The Pats are doomed unless they make X, Y, Z, and W changes, and by the way making those is impossible" crowd.

    But other trends can perhaps indeed be reined in. ;)
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    Same as last year, and not much different, other than side of the spectrum, from last year's "Chung is God" type threads.
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