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PatriotInsider said:I've visited this site quite often but never posted. The reason I have chosen to post now is to inform you all of a rumor I've recently heard. A friend of mine works within the Patriots circle (not front office or anything), I can not be specific because I know people like Curran etc. read this site and if this rumor caught wind in the papers it could get my friend in trouble. But the reason for the Patriots inactivity in free agency is not by the design of either Pioli or Belichick. Bob Kraft apparently is focusing his money towards hotels and various complexes to be built around Gillette Stadium. He's also looking into buying a Premiere League Soccer team. Also, Kraft was not happy with the new CBA, and those people who say they always spend to the cap, yes they have in the past, but this is the first time its been at $102 million, don't expect Kraft to make a 20 million jump in payroll. Belichick and Pioli badly wanted Finneran, Peterson, and wanted to keep Adam but Kraft has budgeted them only $5 million in bonuses for this offseason. The FO hands are tied. Apparently Belichick has an extension but has become disenchanted with Krafts unwillingness to pay cash, which is why he's gone on his spring training tour since he feels there is nothing else he can do. People close to Kraft think that Kraft feels Belichick is a miracle worker and build a competitor on a shoestring budget. They also want to get Deion and Seymour extended but kraft keeps putting the situation off and heading to isreal and other events. Its getting frustrating for everyone else. Like I said this is just a rumor of what one person is hearing.
PatriotInsider said:Was not believed, so it was never seen again.
With any luck, we won't see you again.PatriotInsider said:Was not believed, so it was never seen again.
The team would be pretty dum to start AT the cap..NOT smart at all...JR4 said:Of course if we start the season and PATs are at CAP then this is all a bunch of crap and there was no inside information.
You're what we call a 'carrier'.JR4 said:Well say all you want .... it makes sense to me. If you're a Kraft lover
your glasses are tainted and wouldn't believe it even if it was on paper,
signed by Kraft and notorized.
Well there is one simple way to prove if PatriotInsider is right.
Wait until the season starts and see where the 20 Million went or how much remains.
Yeah Jonathan was one of the prime negotiators of the compromise
deal while the father waltzed off to Israel in disgust. So What.
As for Kraft set to "kill the golden goose", why should he think so?
He's got Belichick for now. He can perform miracles.
If this is true, I can understand Belichick being very upset. If becuse of
constraints he was forced to let Willie go I can understand why he is very
upset at Kraft because I believe he really loved that player. It also may
explain why Bill never talked to Willie. Bill is a man of integrity and probably
didn't want to be put in a position of having to rat on his boss.
Of course if we start the season and PATs are at CAP then this is all a
bunch of crap and there was no inside information.
Until then ..... PatriotInsider's info could be correct. IMO.
So you think (and this goes for Insider too) that 20 million in cap space is Kraft's way of saying I'm not going to spend more money on the team and instead invest it in Soccer and Hotel's. Yea OK lets think about this for a second.JR4 said:Well say all you want .... it makes sense to me. If you're a Kraft lover
your glasses are tainted and wouldn't believe it even if it was on paper,
signed by Kraft and notorized.
Well there is one simple way to prove if PatriotInsider is right.
Wait until the season starts and see where the 20 Million went or how much remains.
Yeah Jonathan was one of the prime negotiators of the compromise
deal while the father waltzed off to Israel in disgust. So What.
As for Kraft set to "kill the golden goose", why should he think so?
He's got Belichick for now. He can perform miracles.
If this is true, I can understand Belichick being very upset. If becuse of
constraints he was forced to let Willie go I can understand why he is very
upset at Kraft because I believe he really loved that player. It also may
explain why Bill never talked to Willie. Bill is a man of integrity and probably
didn't want to be put in a position of having to rat on his boss.
Of course if we start the season and PATs are at CAP then this is all a
bunch of crap and there was no inside information.
Until then ..... PatriotInsider's info could be correct. IMO.
SeanBruschi54 said:.............................
So in your mind fans will pay loads of money to still watch an uncompetitive team THEN sleep in its hotels spending probably close to a grand when its all said and done?
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dhamz said:Actually his info cannot be correct.
The Pats offer to Givens had a 5.5 million signing bonus. How is that possible if the budget was just 5 million?
dhamz said:Actually his info cannot be correct.
The Pats offer to Givens had a 5.5 million signing bonus. How is that possible if the budget was just 5 million?
We're talking about 20 million under the cap if the team falls 5 million under that is the area that they should be in and maintain. Not only do you need that 5 million to sign rookies but you also need that money to sign players once someone on our teams gets injured. Another thing you have to pay for is a fielded 8 man practuce squad. So 5 million just about sounds right to be at or around come season time.JR4 said:First of all IMO, your inferrence that the PATs would be "uncompetitive" because
they don't spend to the CAP limit is absurd. Teams do it every year and
field competitive teams.
Again , I said before if the spend to the CAP then this theory is garbage.
But no one can know that until the season starts.
OK, friend ... what will you say if the season starts and the PATs are say
6.5 or more Million under cap? Say they need about 1.5M for injuries.
What justification would you give to being 5+M unused, unallocated $$$
under CAP? (note: that means there are no incentives being used to
increase next year's NE CAP. ) It's 5+M doing nothing.
Please don't tell me there was no one in FA that was worth the money.
How would you account for that unused CAP space if it happens.
Certainly, PatriotInsider's info would be one explanation.