Patriot Missile
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C'mon ump.. these pitches are being thrown for strikes. Give Bedard a chance would you.
I thought he pitched very well tonight for no reward from the home plate umpire. Interestingly, when Papelbon came on, the strike zone was improved tremendously.he got squeezed big time tonight...still pitched pretty well
I thought he pitched very well tonight for no reward from the home plate umpire. Interestingly, when Papelbon came on, the strike zone was improved tremendously.
i like the trade. they didn't give up much. that being said its nothing to get excited about thats for sure. hes better than miller. buchholz to the 60 day dl really blows. if they cant get him back for the playoffs he could be the difference between wining and losing a ws. now you have to pray to the baseball gods that Beckett doesn't go down.
Bedard isn't "Better than Miller", he might be better than Lester. He's just had trouble staying healthy the last couple years. When he has been able to pitch, hes been an ace.
Last 3 years:
Bedard: 346 IP, 3.20 ERA, 1.168 WHIP, 3.3 BB/9, 10.0 K/9
Lester: 552 IP, 3.32 ERA, 1.220 WHIP, 3.2 BB/9, 9.5 K/9
Beckett: 485I IP, 3.86 ERA, 1.206 WHIP, 2.6 BB/9, 8.2 K/9
Some of that should be tempered by the fact that roughly half the innings are in a great pitchers park in seattle, but the othe half is in Baltimore playing 66 games a year against the Red Sox, Rays, and Yankees.
If he's healthy, he might be the best pitcher on the team. Forget "better than miller"
How good he might be, or could have been at one time, is irrelevant when you can't pitch, isn't it?
His last season that was anywhere near being complete was 2007.
When he was healthy in the past, he certainly had potential to be an ace -- that's why Seattle gave up so much for him. But until he stays healthy and shows he can perform under pressure, comparisons to Beckett and lester are premature, imo
Which is why I said "if hes healthy".
Although, I'm not sure Beckett has much more of the ability to stay healthy. Lester is a horse though.
Point is, Talent-wise, hes as good as anyone.
No, talent-wise he was as good as anyone.
What do you mean WAS?
THIS YEAR:
Bedard: 101 IP, 3.55 ERA, 8.7K/9, 3.0 BB/9
Thats pretty friggen good.
which do you want to say -- as good as any one or pretty good?
Is it pretty good? yup.
Is it as good as Beckett or Lester? Nope.
K Rate and BB Rate are the things that pitchers have the most control over, and typically are the best things to use to predict performance going forward.
Lester: 8.62 K/9, 3.32 BB/9
Bedard:9.8 K/9, 3.69 BB/9
Beckett:7.8 K/9, 2.42 BB/9
So, he strikes out significantly more guys than Beckett or Lester, and walks slightly more than Lester (and significantly more than Beckett). So yeah, I'd say just as good.
The only area he really falls behind this year is IP. He's only thrown about 110 at this point, and the other guys have thrown 140. Which is of course a worry, but Bedard has been great this year.