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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.PatsFanDan said:Personel groupings aside, what worries me is we have still not beaten a great defense.
As someone pointed out in another thread, the Chicago game is key. If the Pats offense can put up some points against the Bears, it would make me feel a whole lot better about things.
I don't expect the Bears offense to put up a lot of points on the Pats. The real key is that the offense plays well. The offense has not played well against good defenses this season even in games they have won. And with all the injuries to the secondary, the offense needs to start carrying some of the load of winning these games.
Yes, they put up 35 today but against a very bad D and had Favre been on his game, no way would it have been a blowout today. He was awful today, missing receivers long, short....you name it. The D is not as good as it was during the SB runs. The offense needs to step up against a solid D and prove they can put up some points.
PATSNUTme said:What does any of that have to do with the play calling today??
It looks as if you need an eye laxative to clear up your ****y outlook.
PatsFanDan said:Sorry, I will dumb it down for you.
The play calling really doesn't matter if the offense can't execute against a solid defense.
In case you didn't notice, the offense has had some difficutly executing the plays that were called against good defenses. I have a hard time getting excited over putting up 35 points against a terrible GB defense in a game where their QB couldn't hit the bronze side of a barn.
We definitely saw some different looks today on offense. But the bottom line was the execution was better.
IMO, the Pats did not lose the previous two games because of play calling and I definitely agree with anyone that thinks the Pats should have ran the ball more in the 2nd half against the Colts. The point is both the Colts and Jets were winnable games if the offense had not made so many mistakes.
So I wasn't trying to derail your thread. I guess the point is........execution is as important as the play calling. But go ahead and flame away as you feel necessary.
PATSNUTme said:I still missed the part as to what all that has to do with the play calling TODAY.
All the stuff that you have mentioned has been given a full retal exam on this board over and over again.
No flaming here, just trying keep things on topic.
shirtsleeve said:The biggest downside I still see on the offense is Brady. I still think he has a small case of Pay-a-ton,Dread-so itis. He still seems to be trying to win games with each and every play by himself. This seems to result in Tom making mental mistakes, holding on to the ball too long to find the long ball receiver, taking sacks, and forcing the ball into coverage resulting in picks. His strength has always been his game management and sense of time. Look,look,look, throw. Even if it is to the cheerleaders. Now he isn't doing that any more. And the results have been mixed, at best. His surrounding cast is as good as its ever been. He needs to relax and do his job and stop worrying about everyone else doing theirs.
shirtsleeve said:Well, NUT, it was an improvement, but not back to form yet. I have the hope that the team is finally out of preseason mode and the coaches are reacting to the situation on the field. I saw a lot more of that this week, especially on the offensive side of the ball, like you said. I saw adjustments to what the d was giving them, etc.
The biggest downside I still see on the offense is Brady. I still think he has a small case of Pay-a-ton,Dread-so itis. He still seems to be trying to win games with each and every play by himself. This seems to result in Tom making mental mistakes, holding on to the ball too long to find the long ball receiver, taking sacks, and forcing the ball into coverage resulting in picks. His strength has always been his game management and sense of time. Look,look,look, throw. Even if it is to the cheerleaders. Now he isn't doing that any more. And the results have been mixed, at best. His surrounding cast is as good as its ever been. He needs to relax and do his job and stop worrying about everyone else doing theirs.
PatsFanDan said:Sorry, I will dumb it down for you.
The play calling really doesn't matter if the offense can't execute against a solid defense.
In case you didn't notice, the offense has had some difficutly executing the plays that were called against good defenses. I have a hard time getting excited over putting up 35 points against a terrible GB defense in a game where their QB couldn't hit the bronze side of a barn.
We definitely saw some different looks today on offense. But the bottom line was the execution was better.
IMO, the Pats did not lose the previous two games because of play calling and I definitely agree with anyone that thinks the Pats should have ran the ball more in the 2nd half against the Colts. The point is both the Colts and Jets were winnable games if the offense had not made so many mistakes.
So I wasn't trying to derail your thread. I guess the point is........execution is as important as the play calling. But go ahead and flame away as you feel necessary.
BradfordPatsFan said:As I posted in another thread, I loved some of the personell groupings today.
NEM said:I didnt see much of the game today, because my nephew took me to the Cardinal game.
What I did see was a great drive to open the game and go up 7-0, but then into the second quarter, on sever of the next posessions, McDaniels totally sucked crap again.
Fortunnately though, McDaniels finally turned to page two of thed idiots guid to being an OC, and realized that the receivers are allowed to catch the ball inside the hash marks....
After it became 14-0 IO didnt see any more so I can't comment.
But, what little I did see, and THIS IS NOT SOUR GRAPES, I AM ECSTATIC ABOUT THE WIN.... but whoever called all those first down running plays in the first half really doesnt have a clue what the hell he is doing. All's well that end'[s well, however...
Great win today, but seeing as you asked, and for a reason I am sure, McDaniels really didnt pass a test yet... in fact he sucked for most of the first half, especially on first down calls, and then I was gone halfway through the 2nd quarter.
Apparently you saw a different game than I saw.
BradyisGod said:Our 3 time Super Bowl winning, 2 time Super Bowl MVP, QB just can't get a break with anyone around here. He was doing what you suggested at the beginning of the year, and all anyone around here could say was "he looks pretty off". Now, he tries, and not always with the best result, to take the team on his back, and he gets criticized for that.
When are you people going to realize that the game just ISN'T that easy, and that the NFL system is designed for people not to excel ALL THE TIME.
With the trash that has been thrown his way lately, I'm starting to wonder if Tom will stick around after his next contract. I sure wouldn't if I had to put up with ingrates like you.
MoLewisrocks said:Edited your quote for brevity and for clarity. I think most of us generally see a different game than you see. Could have just bare bones edited it to redundant McDaniels sucks, but it puts your comments into better context when people grasp that you spew vitriol like this about whomever our OC is even when you didn't even see most of a game. And it's always sour grapes when a 35 point win isn't good enough.