Players that have been AWOL...

[BradyManny]

Two that come to mind for me are Jonathan Sullivan and Marquise Hill.

We'd heard Sullivan had been making progress, why has he been inactive the past two games?

And is it wrong of me to still expect that Marquise Hill should somehow contribute in someway b/c he was a 2nd round pick? I'm still holding out hope that he'll do something at some point.

Any other guys who are AWOL to start the season that I'm forgetting?

 

[fgssand]

Two that come to mind for me are Jonathan Sullivan and Marquise Hill.

We'd heard Sullivan had been making progress, why has he been inactive the past two games?

And is it wrong of me to still expect that Marquise Hill should somehow contribute in someway b/c he was a 2nd round pick? I'm still holding out hope that he'll do something at some point.

Any other guys who are AWOL to start the season that I'm forgetting?

It's called being very deep at the position:

Wilfork
Seymour
Wright
Warren
Green
Santonio Thomas
LeKevin Smith
Jonathan Smith
Marquise Hill

Which would you sit in favor of Jonathan Sullivan or Hill??

 

[BradyManny]

It's called being very deep at the position:

Wilfork
Seymour
Wright
Warren
Green
Santonio Thomas
LeKevin Smith
Jonathan Smith
Marquise Hill

Which would you sit in favor of Jonathan Sullivan or Hill??

Fair enough - but my point is that Hill should be at the level to at least compete with these guys and he's not. Was it just a bad pick, maybe, but I can't be the only one who thought he was going to be good.

 

[smg93]

Well Sullivan was a top 10 pick though...

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Isn't this lovely, whining about reserve players when the Pats have the premier defensive line in the NFL.

 

[Pujo]

I'm ready to call Hill a bust. We may be deep in the position, but we have a guy off the street playing ahead of our second round draft pick.

 

[Wotan_the_Wanderer]

Was it just a bad pick, maybe, but I can't be the only one who thought he was going to be good.

No you're not the only one. When we drafted him, he was a 6'6, 300 lb DE who had made some big plays for Sabin's LSU. He topped that off by running a 4.85 or whatever it was in the Combines. I expected him to be at the very least a poor man's Richard Seymour. But his play this preseason just confirmed that he's made no strides towards improvement since being drafted. He neither shows the explosiveness that his combine time would indicate for such a big guy nor does he show a modicum of instinct or desire. The one thing he has going is that he's got some power and strength, but he needs much more than that to succeed in the NFL. He's also in dire need of some boxing lessons or something because his handwork is just terrible, and he's already lost the battle at the point of attack. Though I'm hesitant to call him a bust just yet, time is ticking away quickly. Should he fail to develop by next season, however, I'm not so sure there's space on the roster for the guy given how deep the Pats are at the position.

 

[BradyManny]

Isn't this lovely, whining about reserve players when the Pats have the premier defensive line in the NFL.

Dude, I'm not whining about our reserve players - I'm asking about one of our picks from a couple years ago and whether or not he's made any progress. All of my posts are positive and pro-Pats, I just wanted to start a thread to talk about the people we have heard nothing about thus far. Jeezum H people are sensitive around here...

 

[lobster]

Two that come to mind for me are Jonathan Sullivan and Marquise Hill.

Sullivan played in the Jets game.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Dude, I'm not whining about our reserve players - I'm asking about one of our picks from a couple years ago and whether or not he's made any progress. All of my posts are positive and pro-Pats, I just wanted to start a thread to talk about the people we have heard nothing about thus far. Jeezum H people are sensitive around here...

Dude, "AWOL" is such a positive pro-Pats application. Pardon my sensitivity to your negativity - surfs up.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Dude, I'm not whining about our reserve players - I'm asking about one of our picks from a couple years ago and whether or not he's made any progress. All of my posts are positive and pro-Pats, I just wanted to start a thread to talk about the people we have heard nothing about thus far. Jeezum H people are sensitive around here...

Anyone else see the irony here?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Anyone else see the irony here?

That explains the oxidation.

 

[PatsFan37]

That explains the oxidation.

It's the beginning of the season, we all need to knock off the rust.

 

[PromisedLand]

It's the beginning of the season, we all need to knock off the rust.

I'm going to go get lubed up right now!

 

[BradyManny]

Dude, "AWOL" is such a positive pro-Pats application. Pardon my sensitivity to your negativity - surfs up.

Um, OK, whatever that means.

Anyway, I don't think Sullivan did play in the Jets game. Wasn't he listed as inactive?

 

[TNPatsFan]

Sullivan played in the Jets game.

Are you sure about that? I didn't see the game but I remember seeing the inactive list before the game and thinking it was strange that both Sullivan and LeKevin would be inactive, leaving no NT backup for Vince.

 

[BradyManny]

Are you sure about that? I didn't see the game but I remember seeing the inactive list before the game and thinking it was strange that both Sullivan and LeKevin would be inactive, leaving no NT backup for Vince.

I think you're right - Reiss had them both listed as inactive.

I was curious as to why he's been inactive both games after making some steady progress in preseason.

 

[fgssand]

Are you sure about that? I didn't see the game but I remember seeing the inactive list before the game and thinking it was strange that both Sullivan and LeKevin would be inactive, leaving no NT backup for Vince.

I think Wright and Seymour would be your back ups if anything happened to VW while Sully was inactive.

 

[PromisedLand]

I think you're right - Reiss had them both listed as inactive.

I was curious as to why he's been inactive both games after making some steady progress in preseason.

The official gamebook on nfl.com shows Sullivan listed as active and that he got onto the field (because he is listed under Substitutions and is not listed under Did Not Play or Not Active). He did not record any tackles.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20060917_NE@NYJ

 

[BradyManny]

The official gamebook on nfl.com shows Sullivan listed as active and that he got onto the field (because he is listed under Substitutions and is not listed under Did Not Play or Not Active). He did not record any tackles.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20060917_NE@NYJ

OK thanks, good to know.