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  1. PatsFanInVa

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    Rd1 Kansas City got the steal of the draft when Scott Pioli went there, then Jedi mind-boned BB into dealing Cassel for a second and rumored fifth that never came true, presumably of Jack Daniels. Obviously their #3 pick of Tyson Jackson was a reach, since there were two teams that could have taken him and did not. The Pats' decision not to trade up into the top 10 reflects a complete inability to do what a bunch of people said they would do. They got rooked when they traded down from 23 to 26, then got rooked again by trading the 26 to Green Bay, thereby totally missing the opportunity to get a really touching homeless guy story onto the roster, and while there were still a bunch of other guys I wanted them to draft, some of them Samoan. Grade: F

    Rd2 Pick 34: Patrick Chung, some species of safety, Oregon. Strong safety, free safety, whatever. Who knows. Pound for pound, stronger than Sarin gas, but that just means he's a workout warrior. Clearly a guy who should have been a mid-to-late second rounder according to Brandt or Kiper or someone else; with all that second-round firepower, the Pats could clearly have had him somewhere else in the second--provided the guys drafting between their picks were Kiper or Brandt or whoever--and thereby picked a Samoan or a USC linebacker or a Samoan linebacker from USC. Mitigating factor: Jamaican. Could hook up K. Faulk if you know what I'm saying. Grade: C

    Rd2 Pick 40: Ron Brace, DT, Boston College. Homer's not just the author of the Odyssey, right? Come on people. I went to a web site and it said quite clearly in the little "needs" box, "LB, CB, S, something else I forget." It did not say Defensive Line, and especially not "nose tackle." WTF do you do with two nose tackles? Play 4-3? Pray for an injury? Look, don't ruin my draft day talking about depth, and especially not in the second motherloving round. If I wanted depth, I'd watch The Reader. I'd also watch that for a faster pace. I think I'm getting freaking diaper rash from leaning forward at the TV for three hours, especially those last couple of minutes into Pick 41 where it looked like the Pats were going to just skip 40 out of pure ****iness. Grade: D-

    Rd3 Pick 41: Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut. Sure we let the Saints get Malcolm Jenkins by not trading up, we let the Fins get Vontae Davis by trading down, we let the Lions get Delmas by trading down from 26, and we let the Broncos get Alphonso Smith via Seattle by reaching for Tommy Chong or whatever TF his name is. Also Butler's not a tall cornerback which I keep telling everybody on every bulletin board I go to that I know but BB does not know you absolutely positively have to have. Two of those guys were 6', which is a magical inch more than 5'11. At least he's not as short as Alphonso Smith, but as you can tell, since Smith was drafted earlier, he was better in other ways. Now granted, a lot of people have been saying Darius Butler's name a lot of times in a lot of media for a long time, so the jury is still out. But just based on the variety of other guys we did not pick, I can't grade this higher than a C.

    Rd 3 Pick 58: Sebastian Vollmer, OL, Houston. Houston, we have your problem. Look you can look at the Pats' O-Line one of two ways: It's either not good enough or it is good enough. Now work with me here. If it's not good enough that means they can't evaluate these guys to save their lives, and rely on the Scarnecchia school of O-Linemen to turn a continuing stream of fat boys and rodeo clowns into NFL linemen, until such time as they do their best turnstile impressions... in the freaking super bowl. If they are good enough, we're back to pick 40: why would you ever draft someone at a position when you're already strong enough, instead of drafting in a desperate plea to the football gods that you can fix something that's going wrong? Throw in that I memorized at least 50 names of guys I've heard of from college ball and this wasn't one of them. Plus I have never met a guy named Sebastian who didn't need his a s s kicked, Janikowski included. Now granted, I'd rather go toe to toe with a kicker than a 6'7 307 pound O-lineman, but I'd say that about Tommy Chong's little brother Eugene too, and look how he turned out. Anyway don't we already have that other failed genetics experiment guy from a couple years ago that looked like Brady with a missing chromosome somewhere? What the hell happened to that project?
    Nevertheless I'm intrigued. B+.

    [To be continued Sunday]
     
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    slash83 In the Starting Line-Up

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    So I take it your not happy with the draft?
     
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    I was about to post that verbatem. So I take it your not happy with the draft. :rolleyes:
     
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    Tongue in cheek people. Work with me here.

    Jesus tough room.
     
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    No Jersey Selected

    I don't think anything will top your wrap up from 2007, but this is mighty fine so far.
     
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    I thank you Blackglass... were you the one that used the Slater wrap as a sig for a while? I gotta tell you that touched me everytime I saw it.
     
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    *^%(*% it's gonna suck if one of these turns out to be a superstar, what a dull ***** draft for us. Still think, we should have taken someone in the first, that sucked, for now at least.

    (23) Ravens (From Patriots) Oher, Michael OT 6'5" 309 Mississippi
    (24) Falcons Jerry, Peria DT 6'2" 299 Mississippi
    (25) Dolphins Davis, Vontae CB 5'11" 203 Illinois
    (26) Packers (From Ravens through Patriots) Matthews, Clay OLB 6'3" 240 Southern Cal
    (27) Colts Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut
    (28) Bills (From Panthers through Eagles) Wood, Eric C 6'4" 310 Louisville
    (29) Giants Nicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina
    (30) Titans Britt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers
    (31) Cardinals Wells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State
    (32) Steelers Hood, Evander DT 6'3" 300 Missouri
    (33) Lions Delmas, Louis CB 6'0" 202 Western Michigan

    (34) Patriots (From Chiefs) Chung, Patrick SS 5'11" 212 Oregon

    (35) Rams Laurinaitis, James ILB 6'2" 244 Ohio State
    (36) Browns Robiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State
    (37) Broncos (From Seahawks) Smith, Alphonso CB 5'9" 193 Wake Forest
    (38) Bengals Maualuga, Rey ILB 6'2" 249 Southern Cal
    (39) Jaguars Britton, Eben OT 6'6" 309 Arizona

    Chung for Cassel, wtf is that, seriously?

    What was wrong with giving Maualuga or Laurinaitis a shot at LB? Bruschi getting old, no?

    Or another CB? I dont know, I hope BB knows what he's doing, he does, right?
     
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    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    No. Not a tough room. A dim one. Your summary is hilarious. Great stuff, inspire even. I'm dead-serious. LOL and all that. Thanks!
     
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    spacecrime Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    If no one "gets" what you are trying to say, consider that the problem just might be you, not everyone else.

    Just a thought....
     
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    AWESOME: "thereby totally missing the opportunity to get a really touching homeless guy story onto the roster, and while there were still a bunch of other guys I wanted them to draft, some of them Samoan. Grade: F"

    ALSO AWESOME: "the Pats could clearly have had him somewhere else in the second--provided the guys drafting between their picks were Kiper or Brandt or whoever--and thereby picked a Samoan or a USC linebacker or a Samoan linebacker from USC. Mitigating factor: Jamaican. Could hook up K. Faulk if you know what I'm saying. Grade: C"

    SIMILARLY AWESOME: "If I wanted depth, I'd watch The Reader. I'd also watch that for a faster pace."

    CONTINUING "THE" AWESOME: "Now granted, a lot of people have been saying Darius Butler's name a lot of times in a lot of media for a long time, so the jury is still out. But just based on the variety of other guys we did not pick, I can't grade this higher than a C."

    FINISHING UP, EQUALLY AWESOME: "you can look at the Pats' O-Line one of two ways: It's either not good enough or it is good enough. Now work with me here..."

    "To be continued Sunday" - it sure as Hell better be.
     
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    I laughed.
     
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    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Or maybe that football fans aren't always the sharpest knives in the drawer. Or that the context threw them for a moment. Or that dry people are often mistaken for meaning what they say/write because it's actually subtle and smart. Or...ya know, what you said.

    Listen, sometimes someone's not a good writer. Other times some people are crappy readers. This strikes me as one of those times.
     
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    patsox23 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    That's only because you're not an idiot and/or up too late.
     
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    Damn, that's good, entertaining writing!!!!!

    Somewhere on another coast Bill Simmons is nervous.
     
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    LOL, looks like you haven't been reading the Draft forum. I've been ripping apart Mauluga constantly. The guy doesn't fit the Pats 3-4, he's the most overrated LB in the draft, he gets thrown to the ground easily (the proof is in the film), he's undisciplined on defense, about as smart as a bag of hammers, and oh yeah did I mention that he's overrated? *rolls eyes* He was picked where he should have been in the SECOND round and by a 4-3 defensive team. Please NOTE that the Patriots play a 3-4 two gap defense. TYVM.
     
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    My wife would say it's the latter.
     
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    No Jersey Selected

    I think there were a couple of us floating around with that...it was one of the funniest things I have read on here. As a matter of fact, I am going to go hunt them down and read them again.

    EDIT: It was actually the 2008 draft, sorry. Here's the link for anyone who is interested: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england.../81799-2008-draft-according-patsfans-com.html
     
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    My wife would say it's both.
     
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    marty In the Starting Line-Up

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    Way to wake up with a chuckle, thanks PFVa!
     
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