Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by BlitzFritz, Oct 17, 2008.
anyone else surprised to see us favored by 3.5 pts??
No. We're home, we're coming off of a loss and we're better than them. That doesn't mean it's a lock, but 3.5 sounds about right.
My prediction is a merge.
In defense of the OP that thread hasn't had a comment in three days.
Starting a thread on a topic that is on the first page means you posted without checking. But cut some slack on one from a few days ago.
The current spread is Denver by 3.
No, it's not.
Snappy response, but an actual basis for your disagreement would be useful. Not that I doubt your omniscience . . . who am I kidding, I do doubt you know what you are talking about. As I do not memorize lines, my answer was from the information on Vegas Web sites. A number representing a current point spread, as that was the question I was answering, would also seem appropriate if you actually know a fact disagreeing with the fact I offered.
Try this site for Vegas odds/point spreads, and if you cannot read -3 as the visiting team by 3, try the ESPN scoreboard as ESPN simply says the line is "Denver by 3" (today only 2.5) or actually point to some other site and explain how the fact I provided is incorrect. It will actually give others the impression you know what you are talking about in a post.
No, it will just give others the impression it has learned how to click...
Earlier in the week it was Pats that were favored. Sorry no links or really big, multi-syllable words to back it up
That's more like it.
Denver's going to be tough.
That pic was for Rockthecasbah.
Denver by 3 strikes me as generous... isn't Denver's passing game pretty good? Isn't our current pass defense rating pretty bad? And if Denver puts up a good number of points does this defense have a good track record of holding teams scoreless while our offense puts up points to catch up?
I think the key for the Patriots is to get a lead and hold a lead - being down two TDs creates a different game that from what I've seen, this team is not well suited to thrive in.
But a team with a strong passing attack is NOT the team I'd want the Patriots to be facing right now.
The only silver lining is that the Defense seems to be getting energized by the lack of respect for them by the fans and the media - that's a good thing IMO!
I don't doubt the original spread nor the OP, but thought on a quick read of the posts someone had asked for a current spread and the thread was active. Usually that sort of fact doesn't generate disagreement, so color me surprised.
My added explanation was only offered to educate the Web-browsing impaired before they add a post next time. Search engines - those things are crazy.
By the way, "multi-syllable" is a multisyllable word, so you are money on the post.
The fact you provided is incorrect. states the following:
Favorite NE NE NE
Point spread -3 -3 -3
Total 47Â½o/u 47Â½o/u 48o/u
Also NE favored by 3: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds.
I think is the "insider" prediction, not a line.
I would say it's a generous line, more so since Patjew just pointed out I cannot read and the line is currently Pats by 3 (it is Denver and the Pats do not have a good history against Shanahan), but the receivers (other than Marshall) do not have the height advantage that San Diego had over the secondary. It would seem to be more of the Miami passing problem if it does get ugly rather than throws over the defensive backs.
My guess, and I am never sure how much science there is to lines, is the Pats do not typically lose consecutive games and they are playing at home after a bad loss.
And I completely agree that spotting Denver a couple TDs will make for a long day. I am hoping to see Cutler pressured, which should take care of much of that passing threat. Give any QB as much time as Rivers had and the secondary will look lousy.
Et tu, Patjew?
Yes, after reading my own link I probably should have focused on the "favorite" line rather than the -3. I will take Vegas over ESPN on lines. I blame Easterbrook.
But you have to admit, my fact sources are solid. My reading comprehension skills in this case are apparently sorely lacking.
Anyway, I don't get how the Pats are favored here.
Got it, thanks!
haha touche sir
Neither do I, but these are the same people who constantly gave odds like 'Pats by 17' last year even after we started squeaking out wins against the Ravens and Eagles.
Current line is NE by 3 and a O/U of 48.
Home team gets 3, so in reality it's a push. Vegas is trying to keep money off this game.
Vegas is likely trying to get some money on the Broncos since:
DENVER is 6-16 ATS (-11.6 Units) in all games over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 6-16 ATS (-11.6 Units) in all lined games over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 0-6 ATS (-6.6 Units) in a road game where the total is between 45.5 and 49 points over the last 3 seasons.
DENVER is 0-11 ATS (-12.1 Units) in all games where the total is between 42.5 and 49 points over the last 2 seasons.
DENVER is 9-19 ATS (-11.9 Units) against conference opponents over the last 3 seasons.
Then again, Cutler has improved this year over the last two.
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