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  1. Sean Pa Patriot

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    that the biggest football game of the year will be overshadowed by a sport that is no longer america's past time... who cares of the fa signing.. this is football season not a stupid fa signing...lets talk some football save all the baseball calls till wed at least, this is a huge game...
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    The Red Sox just acquired one of the very best players in the game, of course there's going to be discussion about it. It's the equivalent of the Patriots trading for Larry Fitzgerald in week four of the 2011 season while the Sox are in a dogfight to make the playoffs. You think they wouldn't spend a fair amount of time on that?

    I'm sure tomorrow they'll be much more Patriots driven.
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    It's big news. Granted in some cities it wouldn't get as much play but Boston isn't one of them (neither would New York if it were the Yankees.)
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    I'm ok with it. It's a big story.

    I'm sure there will be plenty of Pats coverage there today also. Anyone who doesn't get enough of their fix there can always look at thousands of other media and internet outlets.......not to mention right here!

    EEI is just doing their job.

    (Though it does say alot about how far baseball has fallen when one of the 1 or 2 best first basemen in the sport is someone most of us have never heard of or could pick out of profile picture lineup).
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    Is it okay that I'm excited by both?
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    Well, the guy was a San Diego Padre, so I don't think it's surprising that people who don't follow the sport closely wouldn't know him.
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    EEI is also affiliated with the Sox, they couldnt just not talk about it. It is a pretty big deal too. Big Show will probably spend more time on the Pats with DeOssie and Smerlas on today
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    I guess i shouldnt complain, since the pats have come along way since 2000 to be even or in some cirlces more poplualr than the sox... Alot of it has to do with Mr Kraft, Belichick and Brady... But to where the pats were in 92 and on the verge of moving, i guess i could handle some bb talk on the biggest football game of theyear...
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    Sean exactly what about the Jets/Pats matchup has not been dissected/bissected/yissected/analyzed/smanalyzed and zanalyzed to death??
    At this point it's "just play the freakin' game already". :D

    PS- so psyched about the signing of Adrian Gonzalez. Awesome move!
    It is OK to pay attention to more than one sport Sean.
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    I don't even follow the Red Sox that much and I've been searching around for some evaluation of the trade. I'd even listen to WEEI to hear their take on it today.
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    I agree. The Gonzalez trade was the first interesting thing the Sox did since trading Manny (and thus, trading the last remaining interesting player on the team away) - but no matter. It's still a dreadfully boring squad. I'm not going to worry about the Sox for a long time. This Pats game is too big to be trumped by that personality-less team Theo has put together.
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    FWIW, Gresh and Zolak should be doing Pats nearly exclusively today. There is a distinct benefit to having two guys who really only know football. I hear you about the baseball talk, too. Apparently the Sox traded for a guy who is a super nifty hitter and that's a good thing. It's too complex and violent a sport for my taste, anyways.
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    Boston is a baseball town. It has only been the last decade that the Patriots have edged out the Celtics for being #2.

    Less you blame it all on the media, it is the fans. The people chanting "Yankees suck" at the Patriots Superbowl Parade.
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    Baseball is the "thinker's man" game..you have to keep track of such complicated things like strikes, balls and outs. :p

    To me - that's why football is the best of both worlds. It is - by far - the most complicated and mentally taxing of the major sports, yet offers the most entertainment value regardless of this fact. You can spend as much - or as little - time on the game, and enjoy it the same.
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    I've lived in MA my whole life, and granted, while that's just over two and a half decades of living, in my time I've been heard Boston referred to as a baseball, football, basketball and hockey town at various points in time.

    Boston - like any city - is going to embrace winning teams. I don't resent front-running when it comes to the average New England fan. The average Joe Shmoe who doesn't spend their time dissecting these teams apart as a hobby as we do is going to find most enjoyment watching a team that has a chance to compete for a title. It's just a fact of life.

    Therefore, whichever team is doing best is going to capture the headlines.
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    'EEI is the flagship station for the Red Sox, they are pimping their product after a ratings issue last year..

    IMO am a Pats Fan first and foremost, but this is exciting news for the Red Sox..
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    Let's not forget that the shows are very caller driven as well, so a lot of times it's what the caller wants to talk about that builds momentum. Combine that with the fact that we've had four extra days to think about the Jets game, and a splash like that is going to be the story until the Pats and Jets actually square off.
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    Interesting - during my commute to work this morning, WEEI was mostly Pats talk and the Sports Hub was all Red Sox talk.
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    That is not true.

    Bostonians chanted "Yankees suck" at the superbowl parade. The front runner was clearly the Patriots. They had just won the SUPERBOWL. The Redsox had just gone 82-79, yet the fans at the parade were more interested in celibrating the Diamondbacks victory over the Yankees than the Patriots win over the Rams.

    The Redsox even when playing medicore or poorly are a more important team to New Englanders than the Patriots, Celtics or Bruins. Those three rotate based on how well each is doing into and out of the 2-4 sports. But the Red Soxes are always the #1 team in Boston.

    How many fans were chanting for the Patriots at the Red Sox World Series Parade? How many fans were chanting for the Soxes at the Superbowl parades? That says a lot.
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    This is more a perception thing than a reality. Pats football consistently outdraws vewiers than the Sox - regular season, post season, etc. The media here wants to keep that perception a reality too. Obviously it worked with you.
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    That is exactly the truth. It's far more the media that's creating this false perspective than anything else.

    When you look at the Nielsen ratings, strictly, Patriots continue to clobber everyone else by a margin of two to one for the most part.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but a Sox playoff game has yet to eclipse a Patriots regular season game in terms of rating.
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    That's true - but the Red Sox fanbase had been much bigger to that point, for many reasons. I guess there's two huge factors to it - there are the bandwagon fans in it due to the recent success, and then the generational fans that accumulate because of prolonged stretches of a team contending. Since the Patriots have begun winning, things have swung the other way. All the kids & teenagers who grew up watching Bledsoe & Brady (such as myself) are now grown up, and soon will have a generation of children to pass their sporting preferences onto. The Patriots popularity is going to increase because of this factor.

    Long after Brady's career is done, or maybe even Belichick's, their impact on the New England fanbase will continue.
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    Maybe, maybe not.

    The Red Sox draw fans when they have bad seasons and good seasons. That is an indisputable fact.

    To date the Patriots have only done well with fans in good seasons. Just like the Celtics and Bruins. That too is an indisputabable fact.

    Your speculation is that Brady's legacy will do for the Patriots what Bird's legacy clearly did not do for the Celtics. There is no evidence to support your claim. And the huge number of tickets available on ticket exchange starting week 2 of 2008 is strong evidence you are wrong.

    I strongly doubt fans will be sitting in freezing Decemeber weather to watch a team that is 5-8 and out of the playoff race cause of the memory of Brady. But only time will tell.
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    PFW In Progress is having a special show today if anybody wants to listen to anything Patriots related. It'll be on at it's normal time.
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    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I would think the Red Sox purposely pulled off this deal this weekend to steal thunder from the Pats. They have done stuff like this in the past, but I don't know if it is right in this case.
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    Normally I would hate sox talk during football season, but this is a 'once in a generation' type player they just signed....it's ok with me to spend some time on it. In addition, we have had 11 days of pats/jets so it's easy to talk about something else
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    I think the Red Sox and the Patriots right now are 1A and 1B. I also think the Pats are starting to pull ahead of the Red Sox. Even in years where the Sox had been out of it in the past, Red Sox talk dominated the airwaves. This year, it was all Pats all the time (granted that is because of 98.5 coming into the area and forcing the Patriots issue). Prior to 98.5 coming aboard, WEEI pushed this is a Red Sox town because they are the flagship station of the Boston Red Sox just like 98.5 pushes the Bruins and Patriots. The Red Sox town stuff was partly a media creation.

    I think this is no longer a Red Sox town. Anyone under 30 probably are as big or bigger Pats fans as Red Sox fans. The shift has begun. We have seen it in the ratings and interest in the Red Sox beginning to wane. This time 5-10 years ago, people would be calling stations endlessly complaining about the Red Sox not doing anything and people proposing ludicrious deals and trades while now people talk about the Pats defense.
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    Let's pause and give thanks that the AFCCG and winning the Lombardi is not most often primarily influenced by who has the deepest pockets to pay free agents who can't be cut like in the travesty that is MLB. Albert Haynesworthless gives us a glimmer of THAT kind of alternate universe NFL. Imagine 21st century Super Bowls dominated by the Redskins, Cowboys, Seahags and other pond scum.
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    I was out for about a hour and a half and listened to WEEI. They spend all but 2 minutes on this baseball crap. Beating a dead horse as usual.

    Red Sox fans are the most talkative and whine the most. After all they did all play Little League, so they know all about the game.:rolleyes:

    And Boston sports media love this crap. Otherwise they would be forced to talk about a sport of which they really know very little. They prove that when they keep bringing up meaningless stats to make arguments about football the same way they do about baseball.

    I bet that in Feb if the Patriots signed a high profile FA, they would not spend much time talking about it.
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    Both events are huge here in the Hub, but remember that WEEI is the flagship station of the Red Sox, so naturally they are going to pump this news.

    Even over on 98.5, though, being the flagship of the Pats, they're still talking Gonzo. How can you not?

    I mean think about next year's lineup:

    Ellsbury - CF
    Pedroia - 2B
    Ortiz - DH
    ...Gonzalez - 1B
    Youkilis - 3B
    Drew - RF
    McDonald - LF
    Saltalamacchia - C
    Scutaro - SS

    P:
    Bucholz
    Lester
    Beckett
    Lackey
    Dice-K

    BTW, if they could package Papelbon and Dice-K and get a front-line catcher until Salty is ready to play every day, I would say do that deal in a heartbeat!!

    Go Pats!
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