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    NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    This could be helpful.
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    Re: NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    Trade deadline not such a big deal, but the IR one is huge. Each team will each be allowed to bring back ONE player during the year.
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    Re: NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    Any bets to who we take off IR?
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    Will be interesting to see what constitutes a major injury.
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    Re: NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    We can't, no grandfather clause from the looks of it.
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    Re: NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    None; only applies to players designated on September 4 or later.

    NFLPA approves new IR rule and later trade deadline :All Things Pats

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    Re: NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    About freakin' time!!!!!.

    Both sides should be b!tched slapped for their mutual sophomoric attitudes and childish behavior. Their unprofessional need to "win" every issue, is keeping them realizing the opportunities that are there for gains by both their respective constituencies.
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    NFLPA approves new IR rule and later trade deadline
    By: John Morgan

    Per Adam Schefter the NFL Player's Association has just approved the new Injured Reserve rule. This had been approved by the NFL owners some time ago but was initially rejected by the NFLPA due to some other unrelated conditions ('pork', for those of you ...

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    hopefully, the NFLPA said "ok, if you get us the real refs back"
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    Thanks for the link
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    I'm thrilled his got put through. It will help the overall product quality of the NFL.
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    Apparently the league didn't get any changes to the # of padded practices rules but they did get the change to the 3 day rule prohibiting padded practices no longer applying to players signed during camp.
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    So, as mentioned elsewhere, the owners were looking for give backs.
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    Re: NFL and NFLPA have AGREED to change IR rule and move trade deadline

    Yes, but PUP doesn't count against the 53 anyways, so it's arguable whether this would be an improvement in his specific case.
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    Makes little sense to use this on a PUP guy. They can go as late as week 9 until they need to start practicing and week 12 until they need to be activated off PUP (or placed on IR). So Ballard can stay off the roster for 12 weeks anyway. This rule would only apply if the Pats didn't use the IR exemption on someone else before week 12 and Ballard was expected to be ready after week 12 (but before the playoffs). Given that short window, I think it is more likely they use this on someone that gets hurt week 1 or after.
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    Good move by all.. this is a good step.
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    Each side almost always is. What is also apparent is they weren't tied together, there were a number of seperate issues they were looking at and three got changed while one didn't.
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    I agree, I think that since there is only one designation that the Pats would be better off applying this to someone else. From what I have read Ballard's injury was quite severe and was not expected to be able to play this year. In addition with (at least) three tight ends on the roster that can play, I would think there are/will be other positions of greater need.

    It would have been nice to have had this last year to us on any one of several players (e.g., Dowling, Vollmer, Koppen).
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    I would think Nick McDonald would be a good candidate for an IR return since he is expected to miss, at least, the first two weeks.

    It would also help to IR him with the current roster crunch.
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    I don't think it would be a wise or valuable use of the return from IR slot to use it on a back-up offensive lineman.

    This spot should be used for an impact player who has a serious but not season ending injury. For instance if Gronkowski breaks his leg in Week 2, this would be a good spot to stash for for 10 weeks, and then bring him back in December. It is that type of injury and player that the rule is most valuable for.

    Now if it is Week 17 and all Patriot star players are still healthy and playing, then sure, bring back a marginal guy, but I don't think the Patriots or anyone else will use that spot for a marginal roster guy before Week 17.
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    On second thought I think you're right; also not withstanding that it is supposed to be for a player who had a "major injury".

    Whatever THAT means.
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    As usual Schefter jumped the gun and the league says for this year only you can use the designation on guys already on IR (which is only fair as team may have held off otherwise given the 90 man rosters).

    @greggrosenthal NFL release confirms for this year only teams can use exemption for players like Desmond Bishop already on I.R.
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    The designation of major injury thus far appears to be defined as an injury expected to keep a player off the field for at least 6 weeks.
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    So in the Patriots case, with no significant players currently on IR, it makes sense to hold onto this open slot for any major injuries that may crop up in the early games?

    Is there a potential creative usage that I'm missing? I am reading some mention of Ballard, he seems to be a better case for PUP since he's already eligible for that.
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    Don't know what is wrong with Shiancoe but if it's likely to drag on for another 6 weeks they could IR him and have him available in 7 wieks and then activate Ballard in week 9 and have him available by week 12. Kind of like an endless suppey of TE's. More likely they save it in case Mankins or Vollmer or Fells suffer a setback with injuries they are returning from or Chung goes down in a heap or Spikes or Ras I can't stay on the field or god forbid one of the two TE's or a WR goes down for a number of weeks. Or Vince :eek:

    Just nice to have the option and not have to carry a player or move on when you know it will be a while but they could come back.
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    Yeah I like the idea of seeing Shiancoe on this list (Field Yates suggested he's a candidate), but then the instant one of the players you mentioned goes down... :bricks:
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    Will Allen sounds like a pretty reasonable candidate, then.
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