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    Exactly how is that different than this place after the Miami loss?
     
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    Or after any loss? BENCH CASSEL. START O'CONNELL. FIRE BELICHICK. FIRE PIOLI. HANG KRAFT. Best thing about a bad season is the exodus of the troll-like bandwagon fans.
     
  5. Double G

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    If I were a Colts fan, I'd be pissed too. One Super Bowl win in the last seven years and that one was handed to them by a piss poor second half performance by the Patriots in the 2006 AFCCG.

    That gift with a bow on it aside, they should have AT LEAST two others; the window with Manning is closing fast Colts fans, it's all downhill from here.

    The most comical comment in that thread was they are still a feared team; really, and by whom?

    Priceless.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. The 2006 AFC championship was played well by both teams. By no means was the game handed to them, they took it. It was the greatest comeback in championship game history. On top of that, this was the last game the Pats got to know the other teams signals in. It wasn't surprising that as soon as Manning started calling plays at the line, they suddenly couldn't stop him. It was an awesome game played by both teams.

    As far as people fearing them, they should. No, they don't look as good as in past years but once the injuries clear up, the establish they running game, and can play more consistant, who wouldn't fear them? Just being fair.

    its too easy to say things for Manning will go downhill from here. He's been the most consistant QB of the past decade so its not fair to assume he will only go down hill from here just by judging 7 games.
     
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    You're an idiot. It wasn't suprising we couldn't stop them. Not because of the signals but because the entire defense was gassed by that point. You've never played football before have you? If you have, you would know that taking signals and plays is common place. I've asked you this three times and you've dodged the question each time so I will ask it once more then place you on my ignore list tomorrow: TROLL, WHY DO YOU THINK COACHES HAVE COVERED THEIR MOUTHS WHEN CALLING PLAYS WELL BEFORE SPYGATE CAME OUT? Hell, even in my high school football team we used to try to get the other teams plays. It's a commonplace thing that got blown out of proportion because the entire country hates the Pats. Oh and by the way, please explain that, after we got caught and the tapes were confiscated, did we absolutely blow through our entire schedule? I would love to hear your pathetic conspiracy theories there.

    But thanks though. At least we know who your favorite team is now. Do everyone a favor and extend a hose from your tailpipe to your window before you take a nap. Don't ask questions, just do it.
     
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    "The 2006 AFC championship was played well by both teams." No it wasn't, the Patriots were up 20-3 and blew the lead in the second half.

    "By no means was the game handed to them, they took it." Nope, we gave it to them.

    "It was the greatest comeback in championship game history." Really, gee, I hadn't heard that, thanks for letting us know you fountain of football information.

    "On top of that, this was the last game the Pats got to know the other teams signals in." Back to your usual bullsh!t I see.

    "It wasn't surprising that as soon as Manning started calling plays at the line, they suddenly couldn't stop him." Another brilliant point by you; no brainiac, Manning started throwing down the seam to Dallas Clark and we had noone to stop that play. Time and time again he made that pass to beat us. The defense blew the game for the Patriots, end of story, no bullsh!t "inability to steal signals, etc, etc"; Christ, will you let that go, I'm effin sick of your already and it's been what, a week since you signed up here?


    Bring something, anything new to the table would you please?
     
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    As usual, NFL_Truth with another hit and run. Ian can you please ban this douchebag?
     
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    nobody here has the slightest interest in your opinions you dumb ass clown. its time to put your burger king uniform on and go to work.
     
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    How do you explain last year's game? Seems like they did a pretty good job stopping him if I recall.
     
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    I have actually responded to both of your questions in other posts, nothing has been avoided, if you look back you'll see. But for discussion's sake:

    Why have coaches covered their mouths?
    players and coaches trying to read coaches lips have been around forever, but using the naked eye is different then recording. So the reason they have is out of fear that a player or coach might be able to read their lips and decipher what they're saying. It has not been from fear of videotaping because when the Pats were caught, they were the one and only team to ever be caught doing so, before then it wasn't a thought like it is now.

    Why did the Patriots do so well after being caught?
    This was because players such as Brady had aquired a great deal of knowledge from 6 years of signal stealing, thus becoming a more knowledgable QB and better at playing. Same for the coaches and other players, the knowledge aquired thru illegal means seasoned minds and a memorization and knowledge of the game amplified thru the material they intercepted. Also, the 2007 Patriots aquired more quality FA pick ups then I can ever think of, so those players played a vital role in bringing already established talent to a team of knowledgeable players. Randy Moss was the key, he is the best WR in football hands down. He's made a career of making QB's look better then they are. So those factors contributed to the Patriots going 18-1.

    Hope this clears things up mates.
     
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    Actually, it doesn't. You need to explain what, exactly, you think Brady gleaned from those tapes that would help him do his job during a game, especially when defenses traditionally change the signals from week to week. (Oh, it would also help if you explained why exactly it mattered that he got said information off of videotape, as opposed to other legal methods, such as having people in the stands record what the defensive coaches were doing.)
     
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    The reason getting it from a videotape made a difference because "if" someone were to view them from the stands and pass the messege along, that is not as direct or helpfull as seeing it for yourself.

    What he "gleaned" from those tapes is an excessive amount of experience gathered in a short period of time. I'm not saying the Jets signals in 2006 are the same as today or anything like that. But Brady and company gathered more information then any other team in regards to plays, signals, etc. Basically they were in the heads of the other team and did so thru illegal means.

    What advantage did Brady get? Its essentially the same thing as an experienced Vetern would get. Someone like a Favre or a Testeverde gathered so much knowledge after playing so long, Brady learned things in a shorter period of time then those guys did because he didnt have to decipher things like other QB's did, he simply recieved them.

    These are the advantages of which i speak.
     
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    You coming out and letting us know you're a Colts fan truthie explains a lot about what the point of all of this Patriots are cheaters crap you've been tossing around since you set up shop here.

    I guess according to you we cheated in the playoffs in 2003 and 2004, knocking your sorry azz team out of the Super Bowl running.

    Yep, pretty much explains it now.
     
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    Ditto! Yeah, what he said!:banned::ban?::banned2::yeahthat::ditto::agree:
     
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    Just because I defended the Colts against what i felt to be false claims does not make me a fan of that team. For what its worth, I also admire Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, and Philip Rivers.

    But its not according to me that the Patriots cheated in the 2003 & 2004 post season, according to Bill Belichick the videotaping policy had been running since he had become head coach in 2000. As as a matter of fact, yes the did cheat to defeat Indianapolis in those seasons, but the same goes for their 3-point super bowl victories.
     
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    You're still here? Make like a Phillips and SKEEE-ROOO!
     
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    They should, after watched last week’s game I realized that Manning has way to much power over that team. When he was yelling at Dungy to go for it on fourth down at the 50 he went for it when normally he might not have and that cost them the game.
     
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    Using the naked eye is definitely no different you dumbass especially when said coach can write down word for word what the other coach said and use it later. And no, you're right. We're the only team at the time that got caught taping (Broncos later were suspected but nobody cared because of who they are) but other organizations have used shady methods as well. As far as I can remember the Steelers of the 70's were juiced up. Oh, but that doesn't matter because they weren't illegal back then. Yeah right. We all know what 'roids are capable of now. If I'm not mistaken there were a lot of rumors that the 49ers of the 80's were cheating the salary cap and the Broncos of the 90's did just that. If you ask me, these are all much worse than signal taping.

    And the fact that you actually think Brady is such a good quarterback because he knows the defensive alignment is just ridiculous and shows you have ZERO football knowledge. Even if a QB knew the alignments, he would still have to make the throws with NFL calibur accuracy. In case you haven't notice, Brady can make it rain on gameday.

    Tell me, what the hell is the point of signing up at a Pats messageboard just to report Spygate facts that are last years news? Are you that much of a fatass loser that you're completely incapable of actually going out in the sunlight and making some friends? Eh, I shouldn't make fun of you though. Do what makes you happy. Apparently, that's being a troll on a messageboard for a team you clearly do not like and rubbing chicken grease on your tits.
     
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