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  1. NFL_Truth

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    Using a tape is much more an advantage then a nacked eye because you can view it again and again. So yes there was alot o thins learned in those 6 years they cheated.

    The reason not a single other team has been caught is simply because other teams have not been cheating like NE has. I've read about the Broncos using binoculars to view coaches which is certainly wrong, it is with the naked eye which is better then what NE did but using binoculars is an unfair advantage. Yes other teams have cheated and that is certainly wrong as well, its just that no team has cheated like NE has, or to the extreme extent. Thereore no team had gained as much of an advantage. Any team who has cheated the salary cap is dead wrong as well, is it as bad as spygate? No, but it is very wrong none the less. As far as the Steelers of the 70's, there is no proof of them taking steriods, if they did it was before it became illegal. Is that unfair? You betcha, but not breaking the rules.

    I certainly know a great deal about football and my pointing out NE's unfair advantages from cheating does not make me less educated, it makes me a more educated football fan. But this discussion should not be about attacking other members, it should be about discussing football. That is what i'm here to do.
     
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    No, you're here to keep drubbing up what has ended and overwith. You're nothing but a narcisistic troll whom nobody give a rats azzz what YOU think. As I said before, SKEE_ROO:banned2::ban?::spygate::deadhorse::violent:
     
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    I'm here to discuss football, as i've said. It just so happens that some of my views aggrivate patriots fans who do not want to hear and re-live illegal activity that their teams was convicted of. So what I have done is started another topic in which any member has the oppertunity to respectfully call me out on any of the things that i've said that you might feel are not correct. There is no reason for personal attacks or aggrivation, its football plain and simple. And as i said, im here to talk about it in respectfull fashion, regardless of what views we as members might have.
     
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    "But its not according to me that the Patriots cheated in the 2003 & 2004 post season, according to Bill Belichick the videotaping policy had been running since he had become head coach in 2000."

    Since 2000? Then why did they finish 5-11 that year and why did they start out the 2001 season 5-5?

    If you are going to make a point, try to have some facts to back it up.

    If they cheated and had such a huge advantage, why did they not go 16-0 from 2000 through 2007, win every game 49-0 and win every Super Bowl?

    Notice how they went 16-0 AFTER they got caught?

    Man are you dense.

    Somewhere out there, a village is missing its idiot.
     
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    I certainly know a great deal about football.[/QUOTE]

    The filming memo didn't come out until the beginning of the 2006 season. That was after the Patriots won their superbowls. So we have no tainted superbowls, moron.
     
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    Is that why Peyton's having such a tough season? Now that there is no defensive signals for Howard Mudd to steal and relay to him.
     
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    Why did you go 6-10? Because even with videotaping you were not a very good team. It gives you a major advantage but not enough to go 16-0 and win every game 49-0. No, but it is enough of an advantage to make an average team an elite.

    I've answered this many times but the reason the Pats went 18-1 was a combination of already established aquired talent such as Moss & Thomas, combined with knowledged minds aided by cheating for all those years. They also won a game they technically lost to Baltimore, and played in the weakest division the NFL has seen in years. That is why they went 18-1 last year.

    And in response to the memo released in 2006, the rule has been the same for years, but the memo was prompted from rumors of the pats pushing the envelope with the videotaping, having their tape taken away before they began filming against GB, etc. So yes there were knowlingly cheating for prior super Bowl years, the memo was a reminder, not a new rule.

    And yes they have been cheating since 2000, Roger Goodell confirmed this is what Bill Belichick had told him, and Matt Walsh's tapes even being from SB years had done nothing but confirm what Belichick admited. So yes, even since 2000.
     
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    And yes they have been cheating since 2000, Roger Goodell confirmed this is what Bill Belichick had told him, and Matt Walsh's tapes even being from SB years had done nothing but confirm what Belichick admited. So yes, even since 2000.

    LMAO! Matt Walsh? Is this you? Really now, come on, you can say it. geez, you're such a MOE-RON
     
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    No, not Matt Walsh.
     
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    So you've spent your entire time here whining and complaining of cheating yet when I bring up the fact that the Steelers were (and it's been proven so don't try to sweep it under the rug) roided up and were cheating themselves, you go on to say that it's not cheating because they didn't break the rules? How does that possibly make sense? Dude, you really should look into taking a debate class or two. You're not very good at being an apologist for the rest of the NFL at all.

    Go cry about it then. You opened yourself up to attacks the minute you joined here and started posting about nothing other than Spygate. You SMACK of being a Colts/Jets/Steelers/Chargers/Bills/Dolphins fan whose pure jealousy drives him to a Pats forum to discuss, at length, something that is very, very old news and is also very blown out of proportion.
     
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    "NFL Truth" kinda reminds me of that Bills fan who used to post here. The one that was obsessed with spygate and claimed to be a graduate of Harvard.
     
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    You are clearly attempting to re-write the facts here chum. The AFCCG was, MOST CERTAINLY, handed to the Colts. How else can you explain Kelvin Hayden getting away with raping Caldwell in the endzone and no call. And the BS call on Hobbs for breathing on Reggie Wayne.

    And please, don't be an idiot about the signals. The Pats weren't taping signals to be used during games. But far be it from you to know what you are talking about.
     
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    The problem with your BS is that the Pats didn't tape every game. Also, moron, the tapes weren't viewed during the games. Not to mention that there have been multiple coaching changes on teams like Miami since Brady got in. Also, lets not forget that teams change their signals DURING the game. And since the tapes couldn't be viewed during the games, there is no way it would have helped.
     
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