Kraft "trying" to get 1st round pick back

[Armchair Quarterback]

You have no clue what he is doing behind scenes ... nor do I ... but keep acting like you do.

His actions and words indicate he is doing nothing. He said, as recently as yesterday "We've done everything we can do", so I'll take that to mean he's not doing anything else behind the scenes. He's surrendered the picks, he's continuously praised Goodell - oh yeah, the window dressing - he had an employee start a blog and he wrote a letter. Does that sound like someone who is actually fighting this to you?

 

[OhExaulted1]

It should take a really egregious offense to be stripped of a 1st round pick.

Spygate was way overblown, and Defamegate was created out of whole cloth. Considering Bob Kraft's lame response, if the PATS Keep winning, what's to prevent the NFL* from stripping the Pats of more picks in the future through another bogus charge?

Certainly the haters will support it and not question anything that hurts the Pats.

Doesn't matter what Kraft says or does. Success breeds contempt. We'll have it as long as we keep winning.

 

[The Gr8est]

Doesn't matter what Kraft says or does. Success breeds contempt. We'll have it as long as we keep winning.

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And Thanx to Kraft we'll get to keep having side orders of confiscated picks to go along with that contempt.

 

[Ivan]

Get over it Andy ... move on ... the good Kraft has done far outweighs the bad and it's not even close.
we lost a friggin pick ... we will overcome it ... because that's what kind of an organization we have. Even if Kraft fought and/or appealed we would have lost the pick. The only way we recoup them is by Kraft muscling some power amongst owners. That Kraft continues to have his name slandered here in the forum by some members is disgusting IMO.

Robert Kraft knows that Roger Goodell is lying about his franchise and Tom Brady, and that Goodell is stealing draft picks from them and smearing their name yet he continues to come out and applaud the job Goodell is doing. It's inexcusable and indefensible and he really lost all credibility by doing so. He has put his place in the billionaires boys club above the franchise and its fans and deserves whatever criticism comes his way. I'm done supporting him. Hopefully he gets booed every time he shows his face from here on out.

 

[OhExaulted1]

And Thanx to Kraft we'll get to keep having side orders of confiscated picks to go along with that contempt.

So Kraft is the bad guy and not this *******?

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Doesn't matter what Kraft says or does. Success breeds contempt. We'll have it as long as we keep winning.

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It matters very much what he does. Success breeding contempt is not a reason to accept unjust punishment.

 

[Ivan]

So Kraft is the bad guy and not this *******?
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That's the guy Kraft keeps praising and endorsing.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

So Kraft is the bad guy and not this *******?
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Kraft thinks he doing a fine job.

 

[The Gr8est]

My opinion of Kraft has sunk so low that it will be very easy to walk away from the NFL* when BB and TB leave the Pats.

 

[OhExaulted1]

My opinion of Kraft has sunk so low that it will be very easy to walk away from the NFL* when BB and TB leave the Pats.

 

[The Gr8est]

Been a Pats fan since 1963, I don't know how bandwagon fits into that.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

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Nice try, but he's not changing teams, so does not apply.

 

[OhExaulted1]

Nice try, but he's not changing teams, so does not apply.

So why not start now? Oh, right. Success also breeds spoiled brats.

 

[OhExaulted1]

Been a Pats fan since 1963, I don't know how bandwagon fits into that.

We lost a first in 2000 and another in 2008. Why didn't you ditch your fandom then?

 

[Galeb]

So why not start now? Oh, right. Success also breeds spoiled brats.

Walking away from a league that is growing ever more corrupt is not a sign of a band wagon fan no matter what pictures or memes you post. A bandwagon fan is someone that only supports their "team" when they are successful. The two concepts are completely unrelated.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

So why not start now? Oh, right. Success also breeds spoiled brats.

Nice debating skills. You don't seem to have much in your arsenal besides hyperbole and childish name calling. Nothing of substance.

 

[ReverendMaynard]

Walking away from a league that is growing ever more corrupt is not a sign of a band wagon fan no matter what pictures or memes you post. A bandwagon fan is someone that only supports their "team" when the are successful. The two concepts are completely unrelated.

It would be one thing if the owner was fighting against it, tooth and nail. As it is, he's as complicit as anyone. He makes railroading the team such a pleasant experience, why wouldn't they just do it again, and again, and again, etc., etc., etc.?

 

[Galeb]

It would be one thing if the owner was fighting against it, tooth and nail. As it is, he's as complicit as anyone. He makes railroading the team such a pleasant experience, why wouldn't they just do it again, and again, and again, etc., etc., etc.?

Were you aware that the Patriots provided Blecker a letter from their Counsel to Clement for his Amicus Curiae? No one denies that Kraft screwed the pooch when he didn't appeal, but we're not privy to what's going on behind the scenes and there is much we dont' know. Also, the chances of Kraft winning anything in court were minuscule at best. I can understand being dissatisfied with Kraft's response, but there is no need for hyperbole and exaggeration.

 

[The Gr8est]

It would be one thing if the owner was fighting against it, tooth and nail. As it is, he's as complicit as anyone. He makes railroading the team such a pleasant experience, why wouldn't they just do it again, and again, and again, etc., etc., etc.?

Agreed. People don't generally make major decisions lightly.

People do not file for divorce after their 1st argument and people don't move out of a state/country after the 1st law that the government passes that they do not like.

I have been a Pats/NFL* fan for a long time, and it has taken a lot of offenses to make my support waver but I am just about there, and I can and will walk away from it when my breaking point is reached.

I know I am not alone in this, and I know there were some posters on Patsfans who said they were giving up on the NFL* last year, and I think some have been true to their word and not posted since.

 

[ReverendMaynard]

Were you aware that the Patriots provided Blecker a letter from their Counsel to Clement for his Amicus Curiae? No one denies that Kraft screwed the pooch when he didn't appeal, but we're not privy to what's going on behind the scenes and there is much we dont' know. Also, the chances of Kraft winning anything in court was minuscule at best. I can understand being dissatisfied with Kraft's response, but there is no need for hyperbole and exaggeration.

I don't think there's any hyperbole or exaggeration there, tbh.

Anything provided to help Brady's case only helps Brady. It does nothing to fight the team penalties. Of course, in any event, it's highly debatable whether it helped Brady at all, anyway.

Kraft hasn't done a single thing to make anyone in the front office even a little uncomfortable. He's gone out of his way to blame it all on the lawyers, which by omission, exonerates Goodell, Kensil, Vincent, Blandino, and all the other owners. He not only hasn't achieved a single positive affect on the outcome of this fiasco, he's done nothing to provide any kind of deterrent to any of the perpetrators from doing it again.