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Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunity?

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    Its a disgrace these days that despite being paid more in a few games than any of us here make in a year or two,many NFL athletes go away from the team that gave them a chance for a good long career because of money issues to another lesser team even though the current team has a much better chance to win a championship than the one he leaves to for more $$.

    Are todays players valueing a few Million dollars more in multi year deals over the chance of having a better possibility of winning a Super Bowl Championship?

    It seems as if you asked any player in the NFL today whats more important,More money to go to a team with little chance of success? or to take a bit less and be a member of a very possible Super Bowl Caliber team,they most likely would say money before you can even finish the question.

    Ask Ty Law,Damien Woody and Joe Andruzzi that question today and they would probably say the same thing...M-O-N-E-Y over SB Rings is what matters.

    To me if I was a player,a few million more to go to a team that has an average record of 6-10 every year for the past decade is not a smart thing.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    It's Asante's life. We can't live it for him.

    It's easy to be cavalier with other people's money. If he really has a chance to make considerably more playing for another team and the Pats don't want to match it, it is they who are making a choice every bit as much as he is.

    Like every high profile athlete, I'm sure Asante believes he will make any team better that he joins and will help it be a championship contender. If the guy goes to the Lions for a few extra million, maybe I see the point. But I doubt, at this stage of the game, that's his plan.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape over athletes taking the money over winning...there aren't many professions that you have only a few years to make your money for the rest of your life. Essentially, that is what these players are doing. I believe the average NFL career is 3 years, and if you make it past that, and you're an elite player, you have a chance for a large payday.

    I would think that if most people here were told that they only have a few years to make the majority of money for the rest of their lives, they make take the higher payday at a firm that's not the leader in its industry, rather than a lower payday, but at a firm that's ranked #1 in its area.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    O.K. Even is Asante played just 1 year and retired next year..Do you think 8 Million dollars is not enough to live more than a comfortable life for the rest of your life and to have a good shot at being a world champion again this year to boot?.

    If someone offered me 8 Million for 1 year of work then I am taking it and if I want to look elsewhere next year I would.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    That's just silly, the reason they make the majority of their money in a few years is that they're so vastly overpaid. They all went to college for free. They could, and some do, have a college degree and get a real job when they "retire".

    There's one easy, obvious answer - they're all greedy, spoiled bastards. I'm not saying I wouldn't be if I were in their situation. But when you are insulted by a one year/$8M contract . . . you're greedy and spoiled.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    Not only for Asante but I think that goes for Lance Briggs and others every year who do the same type thing...Asante is in no way alone as being characterized as a 'spoiled bastard',just one of many increasing every year.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    And come to think of it I never quite understood why it is so important for the players who have been successful and played awhile in the NFL to be ready and prepared for other careers after they retire? - Isn't a few million a year for 5 or more years enough to where they won't have to go to work ever again and can live a very comfortable life? - Unless they have big addictions like gambling as in Art Schlister or such,they should have 10 million and more in the bank.

    I would be on vacation numerous times a year and still have enough to go another 50 years of normal everyday life without worry.

    Just never understood why players like Dan Marino and others not only go to work on the TV shows like Inside the NFL but do commercials too,Aren't they more than wealthy enough to totally leave the game and find things to do? - I guess a Million dollars to me is like 20 bucks to them.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    That is why I have little sympathy for Assante, he had a very good year, is this the exception or the rule?? If he sits out for the first 10 games will he be played like he was last year when he comes back or if they are winning put on the inactive list?? I see his actions as extremely risky and incredibly stupid, and believe that the Pats will cut their losses prior to TC. He has not proven anything, come back play well again, show that you are not a one year wonder and then cash in.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    I don't think 8 million is enough to comfortably retire for a 20 something. It's less than $4 million after taxes and agent fees. That's not going to last 60 years, unless you're talking about a guy who is prepared to live a very frugal lifestyle compared to what he's been living.

    Of course we'd all take $7.7 million if offered it for one year. That's not the question. The question is if we thought we had a shot at $20 million or more guaranteed, would we settle for $7.7 million just to play on a team that has a decent chance of winning the championship in a sport where there's nothing guaranteed.

    Obviously, we as Patriots fans think our team has the best chance. I think objectively, that's a good bet. But I'm sure Asante thinks if he goes somewhere else that team may also have a shot, and ultimatley he'll have a say in how the team does.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    There is a very noticeable trend that players with rings want to leave for more money, and players without rings are willing to come here for less money.
    With all due respect, that's easy to say when you're some fan posting on some forum not faced with the real choice. Call me a cynic, but I think a lot of the people criticizing players that chase the money would probably be doing the exact same things they are doing (or worse).
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    These are not high school kids or college players playing for glory.

    These are players who play for money. They are trying to get as much

    as the market will pay. Do you think Richard Seymour is playing for

    glory? He plays for the Pats because he is receiving top dollar.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    I really don't understand why people get all over athletes for going after the most money either. This is a profressional sport and unless your a top draft pick your not making great money (relatively speaking) on your first contract. Its awesome when you get a player who will take less money to be happy in a particular situation but I don't think that fans should expect that from any player.

    While a one year salary of $8M would set anyone for life you have to keep in mind that players are looking at the deals being given out to FA and want that. Why would you want $8M when you can get a Clements type contract (even though most of that $80M isn't guarenteed). Like someone else mentioned, these are elite athletes that have a very short window to make money. This is probably Asante's only big contract that he will ever sign and he wants to make the most of it. You also have to keep in mind that when you say he's going to make $8M that half of that is going to go to taxes and his agent is also going to take a cut. Its still more money than most of us will make in a lifetime but its market price for their ability so I don't know why anyone would get upset for a player wanting to be paid what they feel they are worth. Plus I'm sure the amount of money you make is also a status symbol in the NFL as it is in most sports. If your the top paid CB then you feel like people think of you as the top CB.
     
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    Re: Is the problem with todays players a choice of money over Championship opportunit

    Why should he go to college if someone's willing to pay him enough money to set him up for the rest of his life. His job, along with every other athelte in the nfl, brings in billions of dollars a years. If someone is willing to pay him a ridiculous amount of money, then that's his market value, whether it's correct or not. He can tear up his knees the first game of the season and never play again. If Samuel is greedy, why isn't Kraft greedy, and every other owner. The prices charged for parking, for instance, are some of the highest in the league. Why can owners be greedy and not players.
     
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    That's fine, just don't talk about his career only lasting a few years. They're greedy and spoiled.
     

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